We can either have a CSR that oscillates around the rank (five steps forward, one leap back) or an MMR that doesn’t move at all.
I would actually prefer just the MMR.
Of course - you can make it move… you just need to beat a team ranked above you (or lose to one ranked below you).
We will still have threads with people complaining that they just won 10 games in a row with double figure KDA and didn’t rank up!
The big advantage is that they can take the grinding out of the MMR.
They can normalise the results (gains or losses) to keep everyone within the 0-1800 range (only 0.15% allowed to go higher). You could actually compare two MMR’s and make a judgement call on skill (as opposed to time spent grinding).
i have accepted the fact that my rank in soloduo controller is in free fall and nothing i can do to stop it, at this point I’m cool with going all the way down to gold 1. i probably don’t deserve to be in diamonds anyway. that’s what a lot of you need to realize. you aren’t as good as you thought.
Welp, with the latest update my ranked matches are entirely lopsided. I had a game where a friend and I who are D5, D3 matched with Silver 2, Gold 2 teammates. We played against Onyx 1710, D6, D5 and D5…
Another game tonight my team was D5, Gold 2, D4, Silver 2 teammates vs. D1, Onyx 1753, Onyx 1557, and Plat 2. The D4 was in Australia with a 200ms ping, while I’m the D5 on west coast with 19ms. Excluding the fact our teammates in this match were also Gold 2 and Silver 2, How is that remotely an improvement for my teammate in Australia?
Has anyone noticed how terrible the spawns are on Zones? I have played multiple games where my team has lost significantly after having 15 + more captures then the other team, more occupation time and a better KDA. That is one prime example of how laziness can ruin everything.
If someone leaves who is not in your party you shouldn’t be penalized. That’s common sense. If you playing Solo and someone leaves, You should level down. Unless we’re putting money on the line then No. No player should suffer because someone lags out or quits.
I’ll keep someone in my party that if we’re about to lose, I’ll just have him “disconnect” and then I’ll never have to worry about losing rank! I’ll be maxed rank in no time!
That’s the opposite of what I’m pointing out. I’m saying if your in the same party then you should be penalized. There is no “join session in progress” so this should be very easy to monitor. I always have people quit who are not in my party and I have seen other people complain about the same thing. It’s not fair to DE RANK someone because a random person on their team leaves. That doesn’t mean the opposition doesn’t benefit. They could make it where if people quit it doesn’t give as much as a boost in rank to the winning team. That to me is fair considering in most cases the teams will be completely unfair.
What on earth is going on with ranked matchmaking today. Up to now it has been ranking me against onyx and diamond 6 players. All of a sudden today my matches are filled with anyone from silver all the way up to onyx. It’s completely pointless. As a D4 I got matched against a bunch of silver, gold and plat players today. About 6 games back to back with completely crazy teams. People going 1 kill 20 deaths. Feels like 343 are testing something for their ranked update. All I’ll say is that what I played today was even worse than the absolute nonsense rankings to date. I went 26-5 and my rank stayed the same, which makes sense because the rest of the players were awful. But it was an absolute waste of my time as well. My rank barely moved all day despite a 2.29 KDR, when I’m actually trying to push up to Onyx if I can.
I agree. They have taken the fun out of ranked. No choice in what you play. Penalized for people random leaving and the objective modes need some serious relocation of spawns. Maybe the government is having influence on 343 as well cause it seems like we’re paying to get very little compared to what we should receive. And no longer being allowed to veto is also strange considering its such a great addition to the player experience. I feel like they were too hungry to get all the money they can before coming out with a complete game. Eventually people are just gonna wait until 6 months after it releases to buy it. So everyone else can waist there time and money playing a sub par version of what the game should be and then turn around and complain for resolvement.
I don’t see why they should get a free pass if they’re relying on randoms. They’re clearly not taking ranked seriously playing with random people, and they clearly aren’t playing to win. If they were, they’d have a competent team they can rely on before entering the matches.
You don’t deserve special treatment because you relied on a matchmaker for RNG Teammates and one of them leaves. A loss is a loss, there’s no skirting around it.
Lol I know several people that party up on the go. Not only that but several people who can make it to onyx playing by themselves. I was 48 and higher in multiple ranked playlist in HALO 3 and I played with people I knew maybe 25% of the time. Same with HALO 5. Was an Onyx and never consistently played with people I knew. So I think your point once again is completely irrelevant to mine.
Also they made it where you literally can’t party up with more then 1 person on
XBOX only playlist. Explain the logic behind that as well smart guy. You are literally saying everyone needs to find a team mate and that sounds stupid considering the platform they created for ranked. It wasn’t meant to be that way.
The point is to tank your MMR in bots. You rank in as high as you can. You get Plat 4. In theory, your MMR is on par with CSR. Now go get wrecked by bots until your MMR falls to low Gold, high Silver. You go back to ranked and get super easy games for a few games until your MMR corrects. Go back to bots and tank the MMR then back to ranked. Repeat until you get whatever rank you want without ever facing a challenging team.
It would take quite some time and take some fine-tuning but you can completely cheat the rank system.
I had multiple 50’s in H3, multiple Onyxes in H5, and I cannot for the life of me get Onyx in Infinite. System is too strict and will force you to lose half the time unless you’re some kind of virtuoso who goes +20 everytime in Solo queue.
And the matchmaking has been really f’d up since this week’s update. Most games end in a landslide. Steaktaculars, 5-0 flag games, 1700’s against Gold’s you name it.
Im in the same exact boat. The ranked is trash. Hopefully they fix it soon. No choice in what you play either. Why they disregard the things they did right in the past halos? That’s a great question. Probably Stupidity.
With the knowledge that Public Lobby MMR effects Ranked Matchmaking. This knowledge came out maybe 2 weeks ago? It sucks for a lot of players. I mean, every Tuesday there are new challenges for a weekly ultimate reward. Players do really well in Public Lobbies to complete as many challenges as possible as quick as possible, unlock the ultimate challenge, and complete ultimate challenge. Whats left? Ranked. Well, since all these players did well in Public Lobbies they get match made against high rank players in Ranked for there first… 5 games maybe? Maybe more. Lose and De-rank till the system programmed puts the players where, it thinks, they should be. It can be incredibly frustrating for a lot of players, and makes ranking up more difficult than it has to be. Because you did well in Public Lobbies completeing challenges, hop on Ranked, lose, and when you lose a game you lose a lot of experience, but when you Win? You barely gain. THAT sucks for a lot of players.
