Rank system extremely flawed; I'll explain why

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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I’ll keep this short
My friend plays his 10 Team Arena matches to qualify, he gets Diamond 1
I play my 10 Team Arena matches, I get Platinum 1
Now that we’re both settled into the game, it turns out I’m way better than my friend. Higher KD, KDA, and all that jazz.
So why shouldn’t I be able to go from Platinum to Diamond in a few wins? The way the ranking system is set up, I’ll have to play from Platinum 1 to Platinum 6 before I can reach Diamond, even though I’m already better than my friend. At the same time, if my friend fluked his way to Diamond, he CANNOT lose his Diamond rank. So if he’s really a Platinum guy at heart ( skill wise ) but had some lucky matches that gave him the Diamond rank. he CANNOT drop to Platinum. No matter how bad he does, he can only drop ranks within his rank. So if he gets Diamond 2, he can lose Diamond 2 and go back to Diamond 1
But I’m better than him & I shouldn’t have to get a buttload of wins to go from Plat 1 to Plat 6 to prove to the game that I’m better. The game should have algorithms in place to skip tiers entirely. If you’re going 20-5 every game for 5 games…even if you lose 2 of those…the game should recognize that you had a good performance. Instead it only recognizes wins. So I can dominate my entire time as a Platinum player, but if I don’t get those 2-3 wins in a row to go Plat 2, I’ll remain Plat 1. Regardless of my performance. That’s dumb.
anyone else agree?

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bump bump bump. Damn these forums are busy as hell.

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Why did you bump twice in less than 2 minutes? YOU honestly think the devs or other people will completely agree with you? GUYS WE HAVE A EXPERT OVER HERE…See no one cares. Why don’t you goto 343 and do it yourself. Oh that’s right, you are vastly under-qualified and don’t know how things work.

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You on your period home girl? Why don’t you take my meat out of your mouth if you’re not going to contribute.

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It’s toxic tards like you on the forums right now that is making it look like -Yoink-. You think by you spamming is contributing? No. And as for failing at that horrible, cliche’ insult you tried to pull, you should really try harder bro. My 8 year old cousin has better material than your weak -Yoink- does.

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But you can’t rank down either, so why not just play and catch up to his rank? The placement system probably matched you with lower ranked people and assumed you belonged in that ranking bracket, but since the games been out for a day, everyone’s ranking isn’t ironed out yet.

Maybe if you waited a month to do your placements, it would have given you a slightly more accurate qualification. But release and such etc etc play now don’t wait.

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It’s based entirely on wins.

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Oh I see why you’re butthurt. You don’t have Halo 5. Do you have a GoFundMe bro?

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GunsSmoke that was really uncalled for especailly bumping post. Not very Mature. =|

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I just think that they are being too generous with rankings. I hear all these people hitting Plat and Diamond from their placements, and it’s amusing to me. But then again, the game JUST came out so it has to have players scattered through out divisions. It almost feels like they are picking and choosing where people go though. Idk, I’m also crazy.

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This inst true you can drop tiers from diamond down to plat or gold to silver etc… I’d give it a few weeks before the ranking system is fully working with enough data that people are where they should be. Just keep playing and work your way up if your so good.

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I agree that players should be demoted or decayed through the ranking system. Especially the first few weeks after launch. You have players that reach a rank that they realize they don’t even belong in. As for skipping tiers, I get where you are coming from and that would make me happy too, but I’m fine with carrying people so I can get where I belong. As long as I have another competent teammate or a team that doesn’t quit or get D/C’d then I think it’ll be ok. I would like to see rank based on actual skill though.

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> This inst true you can drop tiers from diamond down to plat or gold to silver etc… I’d give it a few weeks before the ranking system is fully working with enough data that people are where they should be. Just keep playing and work your way up if your so good.

No you can’t. Once you’re diamond you’re always diamond. You can only go up… HOWEVER, you can go down within Diamond. So if you’re Diamond 5, you can drop down to Diamond 4…but never to Platinum

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I don’t think you understand the way it works.

Sure, it takes your KD and such into consideration, but this is a very common ranking model. League of Legends uses it, even.

The first 10 games, which I find to be a fair determinant of your skill, will give you a base rank. Let’s make the number 0 - 100.

Silver: 0-30
Gold: 31-60
Platinum: 61-75
Diamond: 76-85
Onyx: 86-95
Champion: 95-100 This isn’t right, since it’s top 200 in a mode, but still, it gets the point across

If you score, in your 10 games, a 74, what rank are you given? Platinum.
If you score, in your 10 games, a 61, what rank are you given? Platinum.

It doesn’t matter, where you landed in that spectrum, you landed on the ‘Platinum’ square.

As of your last paragraph, I will mention that you go up in rank faster with skillful wins. I.E. if you go 20-5, 4.0kd is nice looking in the tier system and you will rank up more quickly than your friend. The system also takes into consideration wins vs losses. If you do really well, but your team loses, you wont go down AS FAR as they will, assuming you played better than them.

Those first 10 games are vital, if you didn’t do as well as your friend did in his first 10 games, than you wont get as high a rank. That’s just the way it works. You didn’t play as well as him in the first 10 games. Even if you got a 75 and he got a 76. He’s still given Diamond. You are not.

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Just report this guy and move on. Its clear hes just here to insult people.

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This is definitely not the way to get feedback on the forums, especially with a long-winded rant that basically sounded like whining about how you are better than your friend. Bumping repeatedly also doesn’t help your cause. Play and have fun, it’s a digital rank.

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How am I here to insult people? I get verbally abused for bumping a post and I’m not allowed to defend myself? You’re delusional.

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> I don’t think you understand the way it works.
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> Sure, it takes your KD and such into consideration, but this is a very common ranking model. League of Legends uses it, even.
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> The first 10 games, which I find to be a fair determinant of your skill, will give you a base rank. Let’s make the number 0 - 100.
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> Silver: 0-30
> Gold: 31-60
> Platinum: 61-75
> Diamond: 76-85
> Onyx: 86-95
> Champion: 95-100 This isn’t right, since it’s top 200 in a mode, but still, it gets the point across
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> If you score, in your 10 games, a 74, what rank are you given? Platinum.
> If you score, in your 10 games, a 61, what rank are you given? Platinum.
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> It doesn’t matter, where you landed in that spectrum, you landed on the ‘Platinum’ square.
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> As of your last paragraph, I will mention that you go up in rank faster with skillful wins. I.E. if you go 20-5, 4.0kd is nice looking in the tier system and you will rank up more quickly than your friend. The system also takes into consideration wins vs losses. If you do really well, but your team loses, you wont go down AS FAR as they will, assuming you played better than them.
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> Those first 10 games are vital, if you didn’t do as well as your friend did in his first 10 games, than you wont get as high a rank. That’s just the way it works. You didn’t play as well as him in the first 10 games. Even if you got a 75 and he got a 76. He’s still given Diamond. You are not.

I understand that but what about playing through Plat 1 to Plat 6 before even reaching Diamond? What I’m saying is they should implement an algorithm that understands performance and not just wins. So that a constantly dominant person can skip tiers they don’t belong in instead of playing through every sub-tier before they reach another tier. As of right now all that matters is wins.

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Based on what you’ve said though, it ranks you based on your performance and puts you in the proper tier accordingly. Why would you expect to skip tiers when the system had a 10 game baseline to initially rank you? You should grind it out and if you are as good as you claim to be, there should be no problem advancing in due time.