There needs to be a penalty for leaving a ranked match and it needs to be a big one. I’m constantly being short handed in games because someone doesn’t take ranked seriously and goes afk or leaves the match.
Not only that but the matchmaking system will match you up 3v4 from time to time but this isn’t primarily about that.
I’m playing platinum and matching up with people saying they just started playing the game so either your matchmaking system is busted or people don’t take ranked seriously enough and they let people who don’t even know how to play in platinum play on there account. There are game modes for learning the game, ranked isn’t one of them. This also isn’t primarily about that.
There needs to be a reason you have to stay in game and play till the end. I think it should be a loss off half a level in ranked minimum and if you are constantly leaving it should become more till you are down to bronze. That is the kind of penalty that will make people take ranked more seriously. Cause right now they get no penalty other then a light deduction on there rank, in some cases they are probably saving themselves losing rank by leaving and there we have flaw in your whole matchmaking system. No forced reason to stay so people leave and it leaves the game unbalanced cause the game still expects us to win short handed, screws up the remaining teammates stats.
So the second reaction to someone leaving should be a buff of all rank deductions to the remaining teammates cause it would take an act of god for them to win what was an evenly matched rank match. Not saying it doesn’t happen, I myself have been part of upsets but this is supposed to be evenly ranked and honestly if you want to get down to it, it shouldn’t even count if its not an even match.
Last penalty should be for players who get a 1/3 K/D, if you go 8 and 24 and have no points to back up your actions you should loose a whole rank cause you don’t belong playing at that level and because of that you hurt other peoples stats.
I wish I could stream this so you could see the constant disappointment of not gaining rank not because of skill but because you keep getting matched with people who leave, don’t take ranked seriously, or don’t belong playing at that level. If something like this isn’t done soon I’ll just quit playing ranked, cause there is no point.
I agree with harsher penalties for players quiting ranks as long as it’s tied into 343 somehow matching the controller commands to someone physically quitting. It would really suck if you connection was playing up causing a disconnect and then getting penalised really harshly.
I’ve been on the bad side of 3v4’s and one thing I noticed is that a new player is never pulled in. I wish 343 would implement a system to pull players in to already started games, would make it a bit better.
Not sure I agree with the penalising payers for poor performance. I’m the high end of gold and occasionally I have a few shocking games but then come back with getting top kills, most objective points. Sometimes the opposition have the ability to completely wreck me so it would seem like a double whammy, get my butt kicked and also get harshly penalised in my ranking progress.
There is something to be said for objective game types and actually I think points like ball handling time, land capture holds, and caps/takes/returns should weigh more then they do. Right now yeah you want to win but the amount of rank gain seems to be focused more from K/D/A +or- then winning or points so most put killing and baiting over actually trying to win, some teams will farm it rather then forcing the win. I also think assist should count for .5 in +or- K/D/A instead of .333
Then the other problem arises where people deliberately leave and down rank to get bronze on their smurfs to get clips against other bronzes. The only solution is to shoot them.
Had the rest of my team leave last night half way though the game, it was a clan and I assume there forth just became ready so they just quit the game to go play with him. I this is exactly what I’m talking about no penalty for leaving so they couldn’t even stay and get he last 20 some kills in slayer and left me to fight four guys.
I still won but that’s not the point, I shouldn’t have to fight 1v4 in ranked ever. Later on the matchmaking system also tried to start me in a match 1v4 playing odd ball and I just left because I didn’t stand a snowflakes chance in hell of beating them even if they were bronze(didn’t check), thats to many guns on one man, and an objective game to boot. In that case I saved my stats and saved us both some time., cause I doubt they’d have enjoyed a lopsided match like that either.
So bottom line, your matching making system is busted making uneven matches on top of that players are leaving, not just one but half teams, because the penalty for leaving is a joke. 343 you have to do something or your preparing the dumpster fire yourself.
Just leaving won’t drop your MMR so you’ll still match with your correct level opponents even though your visual rank is lower. Now if you intentionally play bad to rank low, 343 has shown in H5 that they’ll throw out some lengthy account / console bans.
I’ve had people leave in at least 8 matches out of my last 24 games, thats not counting games that match 3v4. It’s contributed to me going from platinum 5 on the verge of diamond to just above platinum 4. Again 343 please do something about this, your broken match making system has me running in circles and its seems everyone has caught on to no penalties for leaving. Until you fix this I mite as well leave when its 3v4 or hopeless to save my stats like everyone else. Staying trying to set an example isn’t paying off. You guys really don’t seem to care with no response. If I don’t see some change in the next patch or by release I’ll just play singleplayer and shelf multiplayer and I’m sure others will eventually too, cause its broken. What is the point in gaining rank on a broken system, its a joke. Mite as well move on to battlefield.
It’s 2nd match in a row today in ranked where someone leave the game, hoping to jump into another one and find “BeTtEr TeAmMaTeS”, it’s so frustrating!
And you think punishing people is a better idea than to do things making them enjoy the game? Like rewarding themfor finishing. Like giving themthe option to forfeit i stead of getting stomped on for 10 minutes. Like letting themplay the map and mode they want?
Man, I can’t believe after 6 years of H5 people still rely on the broken and useless ban system.
That would suck in ranked. Getting thrown into a match where another team is already running away with the score likely. Only potentially acceptable way would be to make it so the person joining the game cannot de-rank at all. JIP is terrible if you care about win rate at all - which I know doesn’t really matter in ranked in infinite.
@STyK009 - There is a big penalty for leaving already - any quit is considered a surrender by trueskill 2.0. Have a friend whose game crashes way too often and he loses a division tier on almost every crash. There needs to be a reconnect button for those who want back in.
I think the real problem is lack of team work for some people. If you face a group that runs together and team shoots while you have randoms that just rambo - you are going to lose 90% of the time. The TTK is so tiny that if 2 people shoot you - you literally die under a second. And there are soooo many rambo players. So if you fight rambo players it’s not that bad and can have some good games, but against organized players, gg. This makes some games feel so uneven.
I’d also argue that the ranking system is pretty poor. Plenty of bad people in diamond, people who should probably be platinum or even gold. Can’t believe this system is the improved version of trueskill. Not nearly enough emphasis on winning. It’s also pretty hard to rank down. I don’t think I’ve ever actually gone down - maybe by a few points but barely enough to notice. I have seen plenty of teammates though go down in mrr.
Halo tracker has me never going down but not sure how accurate that is.
Trueskill 2.0 doesn’t care about anything objective related either - it’s all about kda and winning. Mostly just kda. If you aren’t doing well in a match - there’s no real reason to try and win. If you have a team with 1.5, 1.1, 0.9 and 0.7 kda and you finish with a win - chances are only the 1.5 is going up a bit in mmr (likely 10-20 points). 1.1 might get lucky and go up a few points (takes 50 points to go from one division tier to the next one). Some have claimed you can go up in mmr during a loss but you have to go like 40-5.
but that’s not the point, I shouldn’t have to fight 1v4 in ranked ever. Later on the matchmaking system also tried to start me in a match 1v4 playing odd ball and I just left because I didn’t stand a snowflakes chance in hell of beating them even if they were bronze(didn’t check), thats to many guns on one man, and an objective game to boot. In that case I saved my stats and saved us both some time., cause I doubt they’d have enjoyed a lopsided match like that either.