As much as it is fun to play on Ragnorak, it really is a huge difference from Valhalla. My title may be a bit misleading, but it’s true. Valhalla was all about controlling areas of the map and assaulting the middle. Ragnorak is all about running out and DMRing everyone from any range. Valhalla required teamwork more than any map. In Ragnorak, people can lone-wolf and still do fine. A lot of this has to do with Halo 4’s changes, which I am not the biggest fan of. It is still fun, but nothing like Halo.
team snipers on rag actually played the same way.
also random ordinance and instant respawns ruin halo so very well they probably ruined the map as well. Too soon to tell. after they fix this issue, then we’ll see…
Not sure if serious…
Why don’t you actually make the right title or even the right argument. Ragnarok is a complete remake of Valhalla. Nothing has changed.
Halo 4’s sprint and mechanics in general just change how all maps feel, and why you point out Ragnarok is because it’s the only remake that we can compare to previous games.
> Why don’t you actually make the right title or even the right argument. Ragnarok is a complete remake of Valhalla. Nothing has changed.
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> Halo 4’s sprint and mechanics in general just change how all maps feel, and why you point out Ragnarok is because it’s the only remake that we can compare to previous games.
There actually are a number of changes that drastically affect gameplay because of the structure.
Then there are no brute shots, shotguns, br(DMR/LR), smg(AR), power drains on the map. Okay the last one isn’t possible but still…
Do you expect a remake of a movie to have the same actors, all the same lines, same scenes, same music and same sets? No (well maybe you do but you’d be pretty delusional). Remakes can have differences. Most of the time they have more than Ragnarok does.
> Do you expect a remake of a movie to have the same actors, all the same lines, same scenes, same music and same sets? No (well maybe you do but you’d be pretty delusional). Remakes can have differences. Most of the time they have more than Ragnarok does.
I dont watch remakes so i don’t expect anything. but now that you mention it i always hear that remakes are always worse.
so since remakes are always worse why can’t 343 just copy and pasta?
The map is the same. It’s the gameplay that makes it feel so different. There is no need for map control anymore, you can camp where-ever you want and geet ordinance drops. The maps are quicklu filled with powerweapons, and the ability to spawn with a pp makes vehicles virtually worthless.
Personally I preferred the halo 3 gameplay, I don’t really care for the gimicky feeling extras, like jet packs, invis, prom vis, it’s all pretty lame. I was really disappointed that there was not a classic mode playlist when the game launched.
Valhalla=Pure fan and teamwork
Ragnarok= Just camp any point and shot everyone with Dmr…No real fun battles and boring as hell…
Well they could of had me fooled, looks pretty much like Valhalla to me.
Also love the fact they used it in spartan ops. I had an Idea years ago when halo 3 first came out to make “multiplayer campaign missions” and one of them was where you would start off at the downed pelican and would have to capture the two bases from a group of covies. Shame I never had 16 people to play it with me. Would of been kick -Yoink-.
Valhalla sucked. Blood Gulch was always better.
Umm last time I checked this map is pretty much valhalla.
Ragnarok is all one and the same as Valhalla, the only thing that is different is in terms of gameplay stupid ordnance drops…
There are rules on these forums that prevent me from calling you terrible things, OP. You’re pushing it.
It isn’t the same as Valhalla. For one, the Mantis absolutely changes gameplay. I can’t play Ragnorak the same way I played Valhalla, and two, the DMR - you have to be very careful when you run out in the open and to be honest, I didn’t feel like I had to do that while playing Valhalla.
> Why don’t you actually make the right title or even the right argument. Ragnarok is a complete remake of Valhalla. Nothing has changed.
>
> Halo 4’s sprint and mechanics in general just change how all maps feel, and why you point out Ragnarok is because it’s the only remake that we can compare to previous games.
Total FAIL fanboy. The very 1st time i played Ragnarok i noticed a big feature was missing from the origional Valhalla map.
If you actually played Valhalla on H3. Especially capture the flag, you would have already noticed you can no longer shimmy up the front of the bases. Also the platform leading beneath the base where the sniper spawns is no way the same diametre it was in H3.
> > Why don’t you actually make the right title or even the right argument. Ragnarok is a complete remake of Valhalla. Nothing has changed.
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> > Halo 4’s sprint and mechanics in general just change how all maps feel, and why you point out Ragnarok is because it’s the only remake that we can compare to previous games.
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> Total FAIL fanboy. The very 1st time i played Ragnarok i noticed a big feature was missing from the origional Valhalla map.
> If you actually played Valhalla on H3. Especially capture the flag, you would have already noticed you can no longer shimmy up the front of the bases. Also the platform leading beneath the base where the sniper spawns is no way the same diametre it was in H3.
Uh oh. I guess it’s not a Valhalla remake after all.
Seriously?
I don’t understand why people seem to think that weapon placement and game-specific features are more important than the actual geometry/geography of the map.
This map sucks no matter how you dress it up. The basic shape, two bases at the low sides of a hill, combined with little to no cover in major portions of the map, is a prime example of fundamentally flawed map design.
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Lets try and enlighten you all knowing Halo friend.
MS= Bungie =Halo = Great competative FPS MM.
MS = 343 = Halo take over = Mass loss in public interest.
Warner = Batman = Remake 1234567890 = Same crap =$
MS = 343 = Xmas = HAHAHAHA = Tvm for your money.
343 = Halo community = Hahahaha = I dont care you bought the game didnt you.
343 = Very nervous = I rejoice knowing = DESTINY IS UPON US.