Ragnarok sniper camping

Games Other Halo
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I don’t know about any of you, but I feel like people camping the sniper spawn in Ragnarok has become a fairly large and irritating problem. Almost every game of Ragnarok I get into, at least 1 or two people are camping the spawn for it, and making s’mores while they wait.

I propose that to reduce this ridiculous camping, to spawn the rifle in the bases once per game.

Here is my reasoning for this. For one, with ordinance constantly dropping in anyway, snipers are almost guaranteed to pop up anyway. Why does there have to be a sniper spawn in the base if we can already call them in? I am in no way opposed to snipers at all- I actually have great respect for them- however I don’t want a quarter of my team being useless because of a single weapon. In Ragnarok, if you don’t capture and hold the middle of the map, you’re pretty much guaranteed to lose the game. Making it so no one can look forward to a second rifle spawn will only increase game speed due to less people camping it, as well as shoving more people out into the actual battle.

My second reason is that it will also reduce the likelihood of camo sniping. Granted, I use camo, and I also like to snipe when the mood strikes me, but I know how lots of people dislike that, so this would also keep down the levels of camouflage sniping until obviously an AC user gets a sniper for ordinance. I know that the DMR still acts as a sniper in a way, but at least it’s not a 2sk or 1sk from an unknown location.

Anyways, discuss =) And please don’t flame xD I’m up for a healthy debate but insults are childish

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Nope, what’s bad is the Gauss Hog camping on Exile. I never touch the thing knowing i’d get loads of cheap, and easy kills with it. No skill, no fun.

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I wouldn’t worry about it, those types of people are usually terrible without their sniper. If you do force them out into the battlefield they’re only going to get a negative k/d and hurt your team.

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I hate people who camp for power weapons. The other day i was sniping on the red team, i got a fair amount of kills with the first sniper. I have drop recon to know when the next rifle drop is coming and head there. Just before i got there, a blue guy took our mantis and i immediately hijacked it and destroyed it. When i turned to see if the rifle had spawned already, i noticed someone was camping in there and took the rifle when i was just a few meters away. I had 10 kills already with the rifle, and the guy who took it only got 4 kills with two full charges.

In the end, we lost for just a few kills. The guy who took the sniper was helpless trough the entire match as he spent most of his time camping for the sniper. If he wasnt camping, i could have got my sniper resuply and kill at least 10 more people, and he could have killed another 10 guys. If that was the case, we would have won.

IMO, the sniper should not spawn if there is someone camping for it, or the location should at least vary, not always inside the base.

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Hasn’t this always happened in a Halo game, camping a weapon spawn?

I know it’s irritating being killed by a camo sniper, I’ve also done it. What is more annoying is the other team getting a Binary and a Beam Rifle in 2 differently player’s personal ordnance. If that is the case, then that Sniper that you know is coming back in the base could be a saviour.

But I agree having half your team camping it is rubbish. But what to do?

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> But what to do?

I make them rage by using the sniper on my hand to just refill it when it pops up. Seeing 3 guys tbaggin the floor and punching themselves, and using drop recon to just walk by and take it is my way to tell them “Go away”.

Tough, that sometimes gets me splattered by a ghost…

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instead or Walhalla they should have redone The Pit but that’s just me

personally I really hate Ragnarok(Walhalla) but that’s probably because I never enjoyed it in Halo 3

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It’s probably partly to do with the fact that Perfection is a commendation, and you need 15 to master it. I’ve heard camo camping with the sniper on Ragnarok is one of the easier ways to do it.

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> Hasn’t this always happened in a Halo game, camping a weapon spawn?
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> I know it’s irritating being killed by a camo sniper, I’ve also done it. What is more annoying is the other team getting a Binary and a Beam Rifle in 2 differently player’s personal ordnance. If that is the case, then that Sniper that you know is coming back in the base could be a saviour.
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> But I agree having half your team camping it is rubbish. But what to do?

Remove the respawn; we have ordinance for a reason, and part of Halo is making do with what you have instead of constantly running and hiding until a refill pops up.

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“Camping” the spawn for weapons/vehicles has been part of Halo. It is funny to see the varied perspectives on this, because when the game first came out the idea of random spawn points for weapons (the purpose of which was to change map flow/kill zones) was seen as non-Halo. “We want the mad dash for power weapons and map control!” was the cry of the players.

You have a valid point though, it is frustrating to have teammates and opponents camping for power weapons. You are entitled to that opinion, and I hear you, I always hate when I’m making a dash for a weapon to have a teammate or opponent snatch it up a second before me. But really nothing entitles any one player to have the weapon/vehicle, other than who gets it first.

Granted one player may be much better with a certain weapon over other players. However, if the unskilled players don’t use them, how can they improve with them?

In Halo 3 I would check teammates K/D before games and let the guys with the highest have the power weapons. It wasn’t until playing for a while that I realized, they weren’t always necessarily a better player, many were just power weapon hogs. When I started using the power weapons, my K/D improved, and so did my overall ability, as well as with those weapons.

The common response to that is, “Well they should just play Campaign/SpOps/Custom Games (take your pick), until they get better with it.” Of course you know though that Campaign and SpOps are really different experiences, and not everyone has a bunch of friends online on Halo 4 to just mess around to improve their skills to the unspoken necessary minimum skill to handle the sniper rifle.

I most often play with randoms, but many times when I do have a friend on, we will help each other out and do weapon swaps. A friend of mine is much better with the sniper than I am, and I am better with the shot gun or the sword, so I’ll give him the sniper if I pick it up, or he’ll give me shot gun or sword if he picks them up. I know playing with friends is not always an option (as I said above).

My advice is just take it as an opportunity to improve your skill with other weapons.

Or just hang out near them until they die and pick up the power weapon off their corpse and then show them how it is done…whatever.

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> Remove the respawn; we have ordinance for a reason, and part of Halo is making do with what you have instead of constantly running and hiding until a refill pops up.

^That

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> Remove the respawn; we have ordinance for a reason, and part of Halo is making do with what you have instead of constantly running and hiding until a refill pops up.

I’d rather just get rid of the ordinance. Random and personal ordinance just creates an imbalance.

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> “Camping” the spawn for weapons/vehicles has been part of Halo. It is funny to see the varied perspectives on this, because when the game first came out the idea of random spawn points for weapons (the purpose of which was to change map flow/kill zones) was seen as non-Halo. “We want the mad dash for power weapons and map control!” was the cry of the players.
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> You have a valid point though, it is frustrating to have teammates and opponents camping for power weapons. You are entitled to that opinion, and I hear you, I always hate when I’m making a dash for a weapon to have a teammate or opponent snatch it up a second before me. But really nothing entitles any one player to have the weapon/vehicle, other than who gets it first.
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> Granted one player may be much better with a certain weapon over other players. However, if the unskilled players don’t use them, how can they improve with them?
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> In Halo 3 I would check teammates K/D before games and let the guys with the highest have the power weapons. It wasn’t until playing for a while that I realized, they weren’t always necessarily a better player, many were just power weapon hogs. When I started using the power weapons, my K/D improved, and so did my overall ability, as well as with those weapons.
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> The common response to that is, “Well they should just play Campaign/SpOps/Custom Games (take your pick), until they get better with it.” Of course you know though that Campaign and SpOps are really different experiences, and not everyone has a bunch of friends online on Halo 4 to just mess around to improve their skills to the unspoken necessary minimum skill to handle the sniper rifle.
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> I most often play with randoms, but many times when I do have a friend on, we will help each other out and do weapon swaps. A friend of mine is much better with the sniper than I am, and I am better with the shot gun or the sword, so I’ll give him the sniper if I pick it up, or he’ll give me shot gun or sword if he picks them up. I know playing with friends is not always an option (as I said above).
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> My advice is just take it as an opportunity to improve your skill with other weapons.
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> Or just hang out near them until they die and pick up the power weapon off their corpse and then show them how it is done…whatever.

Oh make no mistake, I’m not complaining about losing the weapon xD my skills are more beneficial as a foot soldier than a sniper. It’s just when people camp it most of the game that irritates me because less people to hold the hill hurts the team.

You bring up many good points though, and I admire how you phrased it in a coherant and respectful manner =)

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Welcome to Valhalla, this was actually pretty common in Halo 3, to have those one or two d-bag teammates that just sat in the base waiting for the sniper to spawn so they could boost their K/D.

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Snipers ruin Ragnarok. I’m a rusher, I like running around, and it’s not in my nature to crouch and play like a coward.

Sniper camping, unfortunately, does, and always will, exist.

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Cn we expand this to being a -Yoink- with the sniper in general? It includes

  1. shooting at your teammate you picked up the sniper before you
  2. shooting at your teammate who picked up the sniper after you died with it
  3. staying in the back of your base with the sniper, as if trying to protect it, thereby not being useful with it
  4. camo sniping…ugh
  5. grabbing the sniper then immediately getting on a ghost/mantis/warthog/banshee and then not using the sniper
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Just like in Halo 3, I avoid going on top of the hill if there is a sniper.

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as many have said, you will always have the D-bag campers who talk smack about being a God with the snipers, but in reality they are just average with it and useless without it.

If you were matchmade to people with a similar K/D, this wouldn’t be an issue. The noobs would play with the noobs and the vets would play with the vets.

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I see no problem with it at least with those I team up with, normally have 6 to 8 playing , and everyone has one specific area to work, the one thats best with sniper will go for that, and so on. it’s only when you have a bunch of randoms that I see that on, people betraying each other because they didnt get what they wanted.