After watching all the videos for forge in halo 4 before the game came out, I was certain that there would be a race gametype. there is not one. Race was probably my favorite thing to do in custom games on reach. Yes, there is a race gametype that is a varian of KOTH but that often does not work. Does anyone else want a race gametype?
I used to love doing it in Halo 3 and Reach. So yeah, I’d love for 343i to create a gametype for it in Halo 4.
Gametype? Hell, I would go as far as wanting a playlist dedicated to racing. Just imagine being able to race for points and glory online against thousands of other players instead of being restricted to a customgames lobby. They would just have to pick a few maps from the community which wouldn’t be too hard if they would have added a race gametype to this game from the start. That would’ve been a step forward, but this is just a kick in the nuts.
Long story short: yes, a gametype is a good start.
I don’t know how or why 343 would not put in the race game type. Race would be awesome for matchmaking playlists. But, it is one of the game types that I liked for just killing time and having fun. Now, I’m no master architect or engineer. But I do know how to manipulate the terrain for more natural racing. An it’s something I like doing. Just sitting back an figuring out what I can do with the level to make it into a race track without making it into a rollercoaster. Though that is fun to. But with levels like Vortex & Ravine, they are just begging to made into tracks. Now, Grifball is all fine a dandy. A wonderful nod to the fandom. But a relatively easy game to make without the game type. But racing needs it’s own game type. Yes it can be made through KoTH. But not as easily, an it kills some of the mood with all the additional setup. Everyone on the same team? No fun. I hope that this is fixed through a free patch along with some of the other game types that are missing. -Stockpile-Territories-Headhunter-Invasion-Juggernaut. An of course the old one flag CTF.
Two words, Action Sack, or even Maption Sack
And assault 
Well honestly I loved race, but lets be realistic. Race was one of the most unpopular, if not the most unpopular game type in halo reach. But we all loved it right?! Wrong, we all loved the race game type with custom tailored maps for racing!
When they introduced racing it was only on the default maps and it was more aggravating than fun, for me at least. I want race as a game type back, as well as assault, but I don’t want the playlist unless they plan to get custom maps for set playlist! Otherwise I would absolutely love to have it for my halo parties and what not! I am thoroughly confused as to why assault was removed, but race made sense since it was so unpopular, but I say it wasn’t the game type that was the problem rather the match making options, but I am repeating myself, sorry.
I really would love to see race back, but I don’t see any way to contact 343 about it directly, just post forum threads and comment on forums and hope they see it…
Well why not kill two (or more) birds with one stone - “Team Mongoose Rocket Race”. We all need to get the “Mongoose Killer” , “Rocket Killer”, “Incinerator Cannon Killer” and “Fuel Rod Cannon Killer” achievements, so lets have a race type like this.
The basic rules are:
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One driver and Gunner per Mongoose. If your a joined the lobby as a team, then you stick together - otherwise the team joining is random. Note that microphone using teams will definitely have an advantage.
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Points and Achievements earned are split equally between driver and gunner (i.e. a Kill is say 10 points - each gets 5 points - kill 2 people with an incinerator cannon both get one incinerator kill achievement - half points at end of the game are rounded down). That’s so we don’t have fistfights over whom is driver and gunner - this should be made CLEAR in the LOBBY when your voting too - people forget or don’t know the rules. 100 points for winning a race, split between your team.
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Weapons will be Rocket Launcher +/- Incinerator Cannon +/- Fuel Rod Cannon and no Loadouts (sort of like Pro). Weapons will not fire unless your mounted on the Mongoose - so no camping. You also can’t destroy vehicles unless someone is on them - which prevents people from destroying all the mongooses and then winnign the race on their own while you wait for the mongooses to re-spawn.
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Probably No Armour Perks - like the Driver perk or fast shield recharge or fast reload etc. but I’m open to suggestions on this. It likely won’t make any difference.
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Say 3 laps per Race Map and 5 races per game? Winner of most races wins the Game - so point totals don’t matter - except for adding kills to your total.
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Race Maps would ideally have no or few edges, so you can drive off or be knocked off cliffs into water or canyons below. Jumps would be nice too. Many of the DLC Maps would be good for this sort of game too.
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It would be ideal to have Numbered Virtual Race Gates that we have to drive through in the correct order - sort of like GTA 4 in the Brucie “No 1” Race.
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I’m not sure on how we handle re-spawn - especially if one person dies and the other doesn’t. Likely the best is to have the dead player re-spawn besides his team mate. We should have additional mongooses scattered around the map too.
Anyone have any other ideas or thoughts?
And how do we get 343 to add it in?
The best thing would be if they just gave us Racing as a custom gametype to manipulate so we can make these awesome ideas! Also I would love if someone could point me, and everyone else for that matter, to an official statement by 343i about them adding racing as a gametype. I have heard rumors about it coming in a patch, but I haven’t seen anything other than rumors.
Be patient my friends… most (if not all) of the old gametypes missing from Halo 4 will soon return.
> Be patient my friends… most (if not all) of the old gametypes missing from Halo 4 will soon return.
I’ve lost patience and have zero faith that 343 will ever Fix H4.
I have started playing Halo Reach BTS and Slayer again because the lag in H4 is atrocious and erratic. My Reach K:D ratio is once again getting in the 12:8 range - whereas with H4 it could be 16:1 in one game and the next 1:10 - totally dependent on how terrible host selection is and how many people it tosses into the game from all over the world. This has been going on for 8+ months now and 343 doesn’t even admit it’s “an issue” - let lone address it.
And with the announcement of H5, will 343 even bother fixing the basic broken nature of networking in H4 or just leave it to neglect until no one plays it anymore?
Loved Race since Halo CE, still holding out hope eternal that it will one day make a triumphant return.
> > Be patient my friends… most (if not all) of the old gametypes missing from Halo 4 will soon return.
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> I’ve lost patience and have zero faith that 343 will ever Fix H4.
Who said anything about 343i bringing back the missing gametypes?
> Be patient my friends… most (if not all) of the old gametypes missing from Halo 4 will soon return.
pictures or it didn’t happen… By this I mean show me some proof or else I will keep my skeptic view on this topic. I haven’t seen any forum threads or posts by anyone that even remotely looks like 343 officials talking about adding, what should’ve been in the game to begin with, game types such as assault, invasion(I could personally take it or leave it.), head hunter, juggernaut, and of course race! Now I wanted to address this race only works if you can make it so the player gets a point for passing a finish line(lap setup) or if you make it more like an endurance race, btw the endurance race is way more easily done then the lap idea, in halo reach I couldn’t do laps because if you didn’t have the finish line area move the player who went through it would get points for every millisecond they were in it! This made it impossible or near impossible, to set up a lap style race track!
If we could make it so any team that was in the hill got points we could make a finish line that way, but if two opposing teams are in the hill it goes into hill contested and neither get points :\
I apologize in advance but this is absurd and seems like it wouldn’t be hard to add. Halo Reach had it down almost perfect! Seeing as MS owns the rights to Halo now the code should be available to 343 to use/manipulate…
@Adensem, dude this one isn’t too old, but I don’t know where you’re finding all these old topics to bump.
Never been fussed by race at all. Would be nice to get mongoose destroyer though
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> pictures or it didn’t happen… By this I mean show me some proof or else I will keep my skeptic view on this topic. I haven’t seen any forum threads or posts by anyone that even remotely looks like 343 officials talking about adding, what should’ve been in the game to begin with, game types such as assault, invasion(I could personally take it or leave it.), head hunter, juggernaut, and of course race! Now I wanted to address this race only works if you can make it so the player gets a point for passing a finish line(lap setup) or if you make it more like an endurance race, btw the endurance race is way more easily done then the lap idea, in halo reach I couldn’t do laps because if you didn’t have the finish line area move the player who went through it would get points for every millisecond they were in it! This made it impossible or near impossible, to set up a lap style race track!
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> If we could make it so any team that was in the hill got points we could make a finish line that way, but if two opposing teams are in the hill it goes into hill contested and neither get points :
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> I apologize in advance but this is absurd and seems like it wouldn’t be hard to add. Halo Reach had it down almost perfect! Seeing as MS owns the rights to Halo now the code should be available to 343 to use/manipulate…
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Want proof? Search “Halo 4 race gametype preview” on youtube.
Also, if you were paying attention to the news over at THC in the past few weeks, you’d have seen some pretty interesting things that some community members have been creating.
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So I went ahead and looked it up… A mod is not an official release of a game type :c this should be a very big black eye to 343 though… Someone is doing your job for you! We want race! WE WANT RACE! You won’t release it? We’ll make it ourselves! Is what this is saying… Honestly this is your answer right here. Race is in demand, but I also noticed that race tracks are custom built, which means it isn’t enough to bring race back, but they should use custom maps for racing on! Reach had the game type, but the maps were garbage, which is why it was so unpopular! Bring back race, but make sure to have custom content tailored to racing!