Hey Halo Waypoint Community! Wassup! lol
Some questions I have are regarding Active Camo and Promethean Vision
Do you show up in PV in you are invisible? even if you are running around but still have the camo toggled?
Also does camp funk up the radar?
And I dont think this is in, but I think it would be awesome and a good counter if crouching blocked you from PV.
Can anyone help? Thanks
-Bootie
This was from an older build, but you can see players who are in Camo while using Promethean Vision. As long as they are in your field of vision, if I remember right.
Then what is the point of camp if you can… be seen??
More like “Active Here I am not invisible!”
> Then what is the point of camp if you can… be seen??
> More like “Active Here I am not invisible!”
To be fair, Promethean Vision has been nerfed. It’s now only lasts around 3 seconds and the recharge timer for it is longer. Also, say you deactivate it after using it for 1 second, it uses up all the charge time.
I know it’s still going to be able to see people in camo but hey, at least it’s gotten weaker 
Also, you can see the person using Promethean Vision. A little pulse goes across your radar and starts where the person is.
> > Then what is the point of camp if you can… be seen??
> > More like “Active Here I am not invisible!”
>
> To be fair, Promethean Vision has been nerfed. It’s now only lasts around 3 seconds and the recharge timer for it is longer. Also, say you deactivate it after using it for 1 second, it uses up all the charge time.
>
> I know it’s still going to be able to see people in camo but hey, at least it’s gotten weaker
>
> Also, you can see the person using Promethean Vision. A little pulse goes across your radar and starts where the person is.
Is there a video of gameplay showing an opposing player using PV? I would like to see this
I dont have a problem with PV, its just that camo is becoming less and less powerful.
Halo 3=awesome
Reach=messed up radar so people were cautious
Halo 4= able to be seen by PV and messes up radar? Im not sure if it messes up the radar, but that would suck.
> Is there a video of gameplay showing an opposing player using PV? I would like to see this
>
> I dont have a problem with PV, its just that camo is becoming less and less powerful.
>
> Halo 3=awesome
> Reach=messed up radar so people were cautious
> Halo 4= able to be seen by PV and messes up radar? Im not sure if it messes up the radar, but that would suck.
Ehhh there was I video from PAX but I saw it a while ago, I’ll try to find it.
As for camo messing up radar in Halo 4 I know the radar jammer is still there for it however… I think there are less dots jamming the radar. I believe it’s something like 4 to 6 dots to make it more believable that the entire team is near you.
Anyways, I’ll try to find that video.
> > Is there a video of gameplay showing an opposing player using PV? I would like to see this
> >
> > I dont have a problem with PV, its just that camo is becoming less and less powerful.
> >
> > Halo 3=awesome
> > Reach=messed up radar so people were cautious
> > Halo 4= able to be seen by PV and messes up radar? Im not sure if it messes up the radar, but that would suck.
>
> Ehhh there was I video from PAX but I saw it a while ago, I’ll try to find it.
>
> As for camo messing up radar in Halo 4 I know the radar jammer is still there for it however… I think there are less dots jamming the radar. I believe it’s something like 4 to 6 dots to make it more believable that the entire team is near you.
>
> Anyways, I’ll try to find that video.
Thank you, kind sir
Thts bs it can see camo tht makes stealth play -Yoinking!- useless god dam -Yoink- pv…
For promethean vision, the only downside I can think of is that holograms get picked up as players to someone using PV. gives you a very good reason to use hologram now.
For camo, its similar to reach. It still jams the radar of your enemies/self, but IDK to what extent this effect is. you will still be visible if you move too fast with camo, but not as visible as you were in reach. It also reduces your base movement speed while in camo, so you can’t just run around at normal speed while invisble(perfect camo when walking, but fully visible if you sprint with it on). The timer and rechrge time for it have both been increased from reach.
> Do you show up in PV in you are invisible?
All player outlines show under PV. Consider it the “reveal EVERYTHING” ability. Including holograms.
> even if you are running around but still have the camo toggled?
Even if you are running.
> Also does camo funk up the radar?
Last I checked, this hasn’t been answered, and anyone who says otherwise should pull a source to make sure its legit.
> And I dont think this is in, but I think it would be awesome and a good counter if crouching blocked you from PV.
No. Camping would be undetectable then.
I couldn’t find the video.
There are waaaaaay too many PAX videos to go through, sorry 
But, if you trust what I say I can show you how it looks when someone is using it from the video I saw, although it’ll be very crude but it’s better than nothing.
Click on this
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Say Bravo04 was using PV, that’s the type of pulse wave you’d see on the radar, slowly spreading out from the person using it.
I hope that’s good enough but as I said, you’re running off of trust for this one.
