We all know that the infected Precursor material formed the Flood. My question is, is the Flood Precursors, specifically Graveminds? Or is the Flood a species that spawned from the Precursor dust, and contains some of the Precursors’ memories?
I generally class Flood as still under the Precursor ‘umbrella’. They seem to be a species that fully embraced change and evolution. The timeless one seems to be an odd transitionary form, or hint that the precursors had been similar to flood/graveminds all along. The flood liked saying it was the precursors, though there’s no way to garuntee it.
We don’t really have any information on Precursors that isn’t forerunner myth or from the Timeless One/Flood. We didn’t even get to see what the Librarian learned from the memory moss, but she didn’t seem to contradict anything anyone was saying about the flood.
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> I generally class Flood as still under the Precursor ‘umbrella’. They seem to be a species that fully embraced change and evolution. The timeless one seems to be an odd transitionary form, or hint that the precursors had been similar to flood/graveminds all along. The flood liked saying it was the precursors, though there’s no way to garuntee it.
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> We don’t really have any information on Precursors that isn’t forerunner myth or from the Timeless One/Flood. We didn’t even get to see what the Librarian learned from the memory moss, but she didn’t seem to contradict anything anyone was saying about the flood.
Do you think it’s possible it says its the Precursors as an excuse to consume all sentient life?
The Precursors have been stated to come in various forms, my guess is that this is their newest one.
Although the gravemind seems to have a close resemblance to a precursor, it’s more likely that the flood is a new form which arose out of the powder.
I’d say Flood=Precursor from its intentions, but not from its looks.
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> We all know that the infected Precursor material formed the Flood. My question is, is the Flood Precursors, specifically Graveminds? Or is the Flood a species that spawned from the Precursor dust, and contains some of the Precursors’ memories?
All flood come from the Precursors that fled the Milky Way and later returned in their ‘powder’ form.
The thing with the Flood is that it’s a collective hive mind. Hence why a single flood walker is pretty much just instinctual in their behaviour, but intelligent the more of them there are in one entity (hence why Graveminds exist and control the flood). All flood carry the knowledge of the Precursors and their host(s) along the way, it’s simply a case of it can’t be collated and used until a Gravemind is formed.
The Precursors became the Flood. They are a species that evolved from that ‘dust’. But that doesn’t mean they all became the Flood.
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> Although the gravemind seems to have a close resemblance to a precursor, it’s more likely that the flood is a new form which arose out of the powder.
> I’d say Flood=Precursor from its intentions, but not from its looks.
I’m pretty sure from how it’s described that yes you could see the resemblance if they were side by side…but they look totally different from Graveminds and Flood in general.
Also the Precursors never intended to become the Flood…it was more a horrible mutation that they saw a use for and let it roll.
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> The thing with the Flood is that it’s a collective hive mind. Hence why a single flood walker is pretty much just instinctual in their behaviour, but intelligent the more of them there are in one entity (hence why Graveminds exist and control the flood). All flood carry the knowledge of the Precursors and their host(s) along the way, it’s simply a case of it can’t be collated and used until a Gravemind is formed.
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> The Precursors became the Flood. They are a species that evolved from that ‘dust’. But that doesn’t mean they all became the Flood.
So from what I’m gathering from what you’re saying, the powder evolved into the Flood. It has intentions somewhat similar (in a disturbing way) ideology as the Precursors, as they originated from this god species. The Flood came from the powder, but is its own hive species. Is that what you were saying?
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> So from what I’m gathering from what you’re saying, the powder evolved into the Flood. It has intentions somewhat similar (in a disturbing way) ideology as the Precursors, as they originated from this god species. The Flood came from the powder, but is its own hive species. Is that what you were saying?
Yes. The Flood for all intents and purposes ARE the Precursors, as a whole. Not just the Graveminds.
The Flood came about purely due to the powder reacting in a bad way (basically like a loaf of bread, it went off) and then when it came into contact with those little creatures that were pets for humans…the flood as we know it slowly started to evolve.
Don’t forget, the Flood also consumes all knowledge of the host it consumes. So they’re not just Precursor to that extent.
In a nutshell, it’s probably best to say that the last Precursors evolved into the Flood as a last act of revenge on the Forerunners
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Flood is a… complicated subject it can take many forms such as (possibly) the form seen in the Nightfall trailer, it technically is like a zombie the “precursors flood” was killed off, as in the strain is dead but the flood was passed to humans which gave it to forerunners which “gave it to the grunt that released it” then to Human’s again then to be continued…
And this is a parasitic relationship the flood benefits at the expense of the other, so in a way the flood was doing what it needs to do, survive.
I was under the impression that the precursors created/turned into the flood as a final act of revenge against the forerunners. And wasn’t the powder flood spores that eventually grew into a more evolved form of the flood?
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> I was under the impression that the precursors created/turned into the flood as a final act of revenge against the forerunners. And wasn’t the powder flood spores that eventually grew into a more evolved form of the flood?
Nope, the Precursors sought out survival strategies when the Forerunners waged a war of genocide against them and one of the solutions was to revert into a fine white powder which would, in time, regenerate the old Precursor forms. However, over the course of ten million years, the powder grew defective - an unintended effect. However, the Gravemind states that the Precursors found the disease and misery it brought to be good - linking back to the Timeless One’s statement in Primordium that “misery is sweetness”.
I liked the Halo 2 Gravemind. He’s the only flood I like (even though he’s the flood), because of how he told the arbiter about the lies from the prophets and described the chief and arbiter. Halo 2 Gravemind is the only flood in halo that I like.