Maybe they used… Time travel 
Sorry I couldn’t help myself.
Considering we’ve had damaged Forerunner architecture in the games before, I doubt that’s the case.
On a technological level, the Forerunner are vastly ahead of the former Covenant, who were already well ahead of humanity. The manufacturing techniques of the Forerunner, their scope, scale, and skill, are phenomenal.
It’s not though.
343 Guilty Spark snapped for purely selfish reasons. He was already unstable when first introduced and he derived his sole function from Installation 04. When he learned that Johnson was going to fire the ring prematurely the shock of once again being on the verge of loosing his purpose for existing was too much and he went rampant.
In that moment, 343 Guilty Spark cared nothing for the lesser Ark, he cared only for his own desires and the replacement Installation 04. “This ring… is mine,” as he said.
The Lekgolo didn’t. It was a crisis and required the creation of an Arbiter. When the Unggoy lost it and rebelled, again, a major crisis and another Arbiter was needed.
The Covenant only dedicated portions of their forces in stamping out humanity, they considered us inferior and vermin, not a major struggle or a mighty foe. We were a political problem for the new Hierarchs, and one that would be resolved through the natural course of finding Forerunner artifacts.
The Covenant continued finding our worlds simply by looking for said artifacts; the end place of their original path was Earth, and this was decided upon long before they knew it was our home world or that any humans were there at all.
Also keep in mind, with each game, the strength and might of the Covenant became more and more “normalized,” something many franchises fall prey to, sadly.
I can definitely see this as a consumer. It’s like the idea of jumping allows for future stories. I mean, look at Halo CE and the launch of Halo escaping from The Fall of Reach.
They are actually just oreos
Just Oreos? Oreos are absolutely the greatest cookie/sandwich out there!
clears throught I am not an oreo enjoyer.
someone screaming from a distance
Either way, the Arbiter never had to do so much to solve these problems. Both problems just took probably about one glassing of their planet before they were on their knees. Humanity lost a magnitude of settlements and population and still fought to the end.
Sad really. I really think Halo should make more games about the Covenant war during different points in time to really take in the feeling of its horrors. Probably not in the eyes of Master Chief though. Maybe as an ODST again or a Spartan III’s since they were the ones that horribly wiped.
Nothing is foreshadowing with 343, they go in all directions and never finish their stories.
There are plenty of writers who write lots of little stories and add lots of little elements, bringing lots of inconsistencies and meaninglessness. At this rate all themes from science fiction to fantasy, including time travel, parallel universes, zombies, vampires, gods, angels, demons and many others will be part of the Halo universe. All these themes deserve to be correctly introduced into the fictional universe and have the importance they deserve. Something as important as time travel can’t just exist in a little story that no one has ever heard of to never be discussed again.
However, it is useless to debate what is or is not part of the identity of Halo, because 343 will do what he wants and will put us both of time travel and vampirism if he feels like it!
I think the Ark start to built the Halo we see in Halo 3, the Halo 04B, oncly when MC destroy the first Halo, the Halo 04. Only a few months have passed, so it is normal that it wasn’t completed.
As for the Halo we see in Halo Wars 2, he had many year to be finished.
if 08 really did begin only just after 04 was destroyed then it would make sense, still wouldn’t be satisfied though but i think this is a real plot hole. in halo wars 2 anders says the ark has an almost finished ring at all times, now maybe almost finished means its in a similar state like 08 was in Halo3 but a halo blew up really close to the ark, other than being completely destroyed i think something like that would take longer to rebuild even for forerunner tech in just a few years.
now im starting to realize we see forerunner stuff getting destroyed more than getting repaired or built, even though zeta halo is “technically” repairing itself in infinite its all pretty stationary. other than the one level where we see a bunch of moving pillars, we dont really see them getting used to rebuild the ring its just used as set pieces, man now i wished they made a part of the open world where we could actually see a part of the ring build itself from start to finish.
honestly i just think it would’ve been cooler too still see the ark under repair or really broken up from halo 3 rather than be totally fixed like nothing happened.
yeah we’ve seen alot of it damaged but not go through repairs, even in infinite we don’t really see or know what that part of the ring was like before it was destroyed so how am i supposed to have this feeling of “wow this was something now it’s destroyed” when i’ve only seen it destroyed, same with the ark but reversed, we saw it before it was destroyed and after it was repaired but not actually in a destroyed state or during repairs.
This is not true as master chief says in infinite every ring is different from the other.
You can see this is the mission the covanent that rings are different from the others like one of them is mostly water unlike installation 04a,04b,04c or 05 or 07. All of them are different so mostly the ark would only make a ring if that specific ring is destroyed
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Personally I’m not at all interested in time travel. The time-dilation stuff in the books around the slipspace crystal was cool enough, but I don’t want to see time travel introduced as a feature. Things like Chief going into the Silent Auditorium then coming out three days later are kinda cool and mysterious but full on time travel would overcomplicate things.
The only time travel I’m interested in is retconning the canon back to 2009 status and redoing from there…
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Lets just not hope that it turns into cough cough marvel with its time travel
Uh, glassing a planet, even one, is a pretty big deal. And for the Hunters, he spent a year or so, give or take, dealing with them.
Humanity had no choice, as the other races the Covenant was looking to absorb, humanity was vermin to be exterminated where encountered. And again, the Covenant wasn’t even actively looking for us outside of a few sections of their military.
It was do or die for our species, and we only survived because the Covenant Civil War split the Covenant at the moment that should have been humanity’s death knell. Had many of the Elites not sided with us to fight for their own survival in the face of that betrayal, we’d have been gone.
This would be cool.
It’s not though. There’s a big difference between a plot hole and simply not liking/agreeing with something.
Zeta Halo is extremely damaged and the Monitor doesn’t seem to be properly directing the ring to actively repair itself, seeing as how Despondent Pyre didn’t want the Harbinger to achieve her goal. The Harbinger killed her and took her data to generally begin the repair process properly, and then focused it all on the Silent Auditorium almost exclusively. You can actually see throughout the different points of the game said Auditorium looking more complete in the distance.
That would have been cool, yes.
Okay. What about Installation 04? You only properly experience it intact. You only ever see it destroyed from orbit. What about Installation 05? You only see that intact, not after it was glassed by the Elite’s. What about Installation 03, which you see intact in the distance and don’t even set foot on?
We see Installation 07, Zeta Halo, intact and complete in Halo Infinite’s intro, and then we land on it after it’s broken apart. Throughout the franchise we’ve seen and navigated Halo rings first hand multiple times while they’ve been intact, and through 2 different characters we’ve seen them this way in first person/third person, and in Halo Wars 2 we get to traverse a part of Installation 04b (for lack of a better name) with an army!
Halo Infinite is the first time we’ve seen and adventured on a ring that’s properly damaged and broken, and we only explore a relatively small area of it, which we know looks similar to the more verdant and temperate sections of Installation 04.
Both glassing a planet or 100 is always a deal. But in comparison to the human covenant war, it falls short. The point isn’t to belittle one event. Its to portray the empowerment of another. And in this case, Humanity would stand out against all the other species.
Evern though Humanity was marked for extinction, I doubt species going to war with the Covenant, wasn’t a Do or Die situation for them as well. They weren’t just going to let them off the hook if things got bad. Like the grunt rebellion, even the covenant underestimated the unggoy and still dropped an arbiter at them.
A Halo Blew UP In The Middle of The Ark and is repaired like nothin happened in just a few years, maybe it’s not a plot hole but it’ just sucks because it could’ve been something way cooler like fighting on the scattered chunks, infinite does that but we don’t fight anything big like a scarb. this has gotten of track from the original post about the endless which really are a plot hole.
the story has exclaimed many time the halos kill every living, breathing, thinking creature in the galaxy and on top of the the librarian say her self she catalogued every species. So what, she just happened to miss the one species that can survive the halos.
Oh Wow something in the distance you wouldnt notice is just a tiny animation rather than something actually large being constructed or rebuilt right in front of us.
yeah we’ve seen other rings intact but the first two we set foot on have showed some different areas than the other or other parts of the games had much more different areas off the rings. probably wasn’t anything special to begin with, just a big forest with some forerunner stuff sticking out, like levels 2 and 3 of CE but without the big missing chunk but that pretty much all of infinite.
thats another problem with infinite its like “ooO this ring is somysterious” but it doesn’t feel like anything special or new, we find and fight a new race of aliens but they don’t really do much, we land on a new ring but it’s really nothing we haven’t see before, true it’s the first we’ve been on a destroyed section of a ring but thats not what i was hoping to see before infinite launched. i was hoping to explore a world that actually feels alive with stuff like changing weather and large roaming animals, and more than one
Also for being damaged it feels very…static.
Like the first level inside the ring has a lot of broken pieces floating about and lighting. But past that point if it weren’t for the gaps the ring otherwise looks fine.
Sections where environmental controls were running haywire, or having the ring pieces at different angles from eachother, would have really enhanced the effect.
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