Question about the Endless

Nothing prove that time travel to the past is a thing in Halo. It’s not because Master Chief and the Weapon made an accidental jump of three day in the future than we can talk about time travel.
Travel to the past and change the reality is something completely different and infinitely more complicated.

Here a post a made on time travel : https://forums.halowaypoint.com/t/time-travel-to-the-past-is-not-a-thing-in-halo/495425/4

To confirm, do you mean in Halo 3? If so, the replacement Installation 04 didn’t kill the Flood on the Lesser Ark. We see the Flood survived in the ruins of High Chairty in Halo Wars 2: Awakening the Nightmare, and were contained by the Sentinels until Pavium fowled up.

Yeah you say that but,

“What will you do?”
“Light it.”
“Then we are agreed! A tactical pulse will completely eradicate the local infestation!”

Look, I don’t write these games, but Bungie made it VERY clear in Halo 3, that Installation 04b (I am not frakking calling it Installation 08.) was intended to kill the local flood.

What you’re talking about was 110% a Retcon.

This is why talking about the mechanics of The Halos themselves is a farsical, useless endeavor. It changes to the story’s needs, every single time.

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Hang on didn’t the Halo Monitor’s keep some Flood alive to study tham? If so the other Halo ring would still have living Flood on tham. It wouldn’t be the frist time the Flood played dead just to buy tham some more time.

Time travel to the past has existed in Halo lore at least since 2004 and no, I’m not talking about that slipspace crystal from the books…
Now, whether or not changing the past is possible or all time travel is predetermined, that is a different question and depends on which story logic the authors choose to follow.

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Yeah, so what are you talking about lol ?

Protip: Read the thread you’re replying to before you reply:

https://halo.fandom.com/wiki/Melissa_(AI)

i think the issue isnt just the flood survived but the ark also looks untouched, like a halo didn’t explode right in the middle of it. the pilliar of autumn was able to completely shatter the first ring, im sure there’s still bits of it floating in space, but A Whole halo ring itself blows and they get it up and running again like 10 years later? it’s a little far fetched even for halo.

Thats true Halo lore seems to be all over the place with what thay can and cannot do in Halo story and games.

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Ah, so you were talking about Halo 3.

For your quote, keep in mind that was said when 343 Guilty Spark assumed the replacement Installation 04 would be completed before firing. He did freak and go fully rampant when he realized they were going to fire it prematurely, and a premature firing destroyed the installation itself.

So it didn’t function as intended and thus, evidently didn’t kill the infestation on lesser Ark, only those on the ring itself (since they ring went boom).

Also keep in mind Bungie themselves never could decide if the Halo Array would actually kill the Flood as well as their “food” or simply sentient life in the galaxy the Flood would feed on. Bungie flip flopped on that one through the trilogy.

Generally, it seems they started with it killed their food only, and by Halo 3 had retconned the effects of the rings to kill the Flood as well as their food.

It was damaged though. In Halo Wars 2, logs you find from the Monitor of the lesser Ark talk about the repairs and damage.

I agree and it doesn’t sound like it would be all that great for the storyline and i feel it would be a pretty detrimental idea for the franchiseas well… imho

Yes, I know, I’ve said that several times.

The Halo rings kill however the narrative says they do. As far as I’m concerned, The Flood’s story is over as a result - after all, the Flood was recontained by The Banished on The Ark.

I really do know these things.

It was just a 2004 pub for Halo 2, it’s not cannon

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Yup, that’s how it is.

Nah. Aside from the possibility of more Flood being stored elsewhere, it’s also possible there are more Flood out beyond the galaxy. The Flood can easily return at any time.

So do I.

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According to repeated comments from both Bungie and 343 it is canon.
Not only that, but Infinite specifically builds upon it. Did you know that the Razorback is taken directly from ILB? Or the SPDR program in Chief’s Armor Firmware?
EDIT: Also, remember the “beehive” emblems and backdrops that were given to players when Infinite launched?
The game very intentionally references ILB on multiple occasions. I’d be extremely surprised if this isn’t foreshadowing…

im willing to dig deep for the lore but even though it says that it’s still hard to believe to seeing it. would’ve been neat to see it still under repair or heavily damaged from halo 3, it looks pretty spotless after A Whole Halo blew up Inside of it! i would’ve made it look a little stitched together or actually damaged in someway so we could really see the destructive power of a whole halo ring blowing up near a planet or something planet like!

also to be really amazed at the work “we” did in halo 3 like “Yeah we did that!” now it kinda feels like it undermines it, like not only is the flood still around but it’s fully operational again too enough so it made a fully complete ring! the ring in the ark from halo 3 wasn’t even complete after the first firing of the rings which was like millions of years ago, now in less than 10 it got another one fully made!?!?

While I get what you’re saying, keep in mind Forerunner artifacts are able to repair and even reshape themselves that make previous damage undetectable.

Zeta Halo, one of the rings from the original array, was really smashed up before and reduced itself in size, and you’d never know it just by looking at it.

The lesser Ark also had years to repair itself by the time we see it again.

With respect to manufacturing another ring, keep in mind the lesser Ark always has a ring in a state of construction in reserve in case it’s needed. In Halo 3, you have that one and choose to fire it before it’s fully finished. In Halo Wars 2, said replacement ring is summoned and finished as the Banished are intending to use it.

they can say that but it feels more like they just didn’t wanna do it because it’d probably be too much work to make it look different, of course they can afford to make something up to write down.

you know i never knew that till i wiki’d it, that was also like millions of years ago and i don’t think it been explained too much in the games about the original 12 other than that 1 terminal in CEA.

yeah just 10 years even for a super advanced civilization that has too be very little time and on top of not only making a new ring it had to repair the thing That Makes Them after one blew up pretty damn close to it, though unfinished it still had to be really bad if guilty spark totally snapped.

i dont think he would’ve snapped if the ark would be in ship shape in just a little under 10 short years. hed been keeping watch of just one forever, now he freaks out if he has to wait a few more years to get another one?

I really don’t know where its gonna go. The first story about the Covenant invading Humanity space was amazing. It showed how every species in the Covenant fell easily to their knees invaded. But when it was Humanity, no matter how many glassed planets, they continued to show the might of humans and piss the Covenant off every time. It really made humanity sound like a truly impeccable force that the Didact stated…

…this whole Banished thing really countered it in a good way. They could of had another great underdog story, but I don’t understand the point of bringing in a new enemy along with time traveling. I swear that’s a trope currently in so many genres at the moment that it was a pointless addition.

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