A while back some people theorized about time travel and it being connected to the endless somehow but the thing is I don’t know how something like time travel would fit into the Halo Universe I mean for all know it could be pretty awesome but it also make the game really bad. What are you all think about time travel being in the Halo Universe do you think it could work or do you think it would not work
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Master chief and Atriox bing stuck in the past and having to fight in the Ancient Humans Forerunner Food wars to get back.
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i dont like it, what i liked about halos story is how relatable it is to real life, such as people fighting over religion and resources. i always thought it was really interesting how the covenant believed in gods and all that. usually super advanced races in sci-fi act like they’re beyond that or gods them selves, but not halo, it make’s covenant feel really human to me.
also i really don’t see the point of time travel in a game thats already sci-fi, they pretty much already captured what chief on a primitive planet would do with infinite, scavenge and throw a bunch of crap till something dies. with how forerunner tech is already so powerful to change the fate of the galaxy in mere moments it makes time travel really not that impressive.
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I’m never a fan of time travel. I think it always cheapens the experience by introducing obvious plot holes and reducing the stakes, since every important moment or death can be reversed later.
Interested to see where it goes with Halo but I’m very wary.
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Master chief wakes back up at the end of Halo 3.
All a bad dream.
Job done!
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I just want the arbiter back in someway or another. Such a staple move in the franchise just to be gone like that.
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So, you might have misread.
But the idea is that the Halos are actually chronomatic weapons that basically kill everything by aging them at a molecular level rapidly… and the concept was that PERHAPS The Endless are immune to this, because they do not age. They are as a result, without end - no entropy point to reach.
Which obviously, would make them immune to the Halos… But not Cataloguing via Cylix.
The chronomatic weaponry theory is supported by some of the books. Check out these videos.
https: //youtu. be/GwVyjTiIao0
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Thanks for the link I’ll check it out later
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That’s very cool and would be a great way to explain their survival.
I’m still worried about the missing 3 days for Chief at the end of the campaign. I hope it’s not actually a time travel thing but it worries me either way.
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Based on 343s track history, they’re clearly running out of ideas, if they’re actually taking the time travel and parallel universes route, that all long running franchises eventually take when they’re out of ideas. I wouldn’t be surprised if Halo 7 made the fractures canon and Master Chief had to team up with the multiverse to kill god. If the Infinity is destroyed and almost all Spartans are gone, he has to get new Spartans from somewhere
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Didn’t Greg Bear already explain in his books that the Halos kill by means of neutrinos? (Which, for the record, is utter nonsense and has me facepalm every time I think about it. Btw: I’m a particle physicist specializing in neutrinos.)
@Topic: Time travel already exists in the Halo lore. How that would be realized in the games, I don’t know… but I’d be down for some Time-Splitter-esque hopping between different millennia, hunting for Forerunner artifacts…
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But is there really any different from savings some one with time travel Vs We just thought thay were dead. Like how Halo 5 story had Cortana back even thow she died in Halo 4? The Same thing happened with sergeant johnson two.
The difference is one then has to deal with the ramifications of time travel, and the other doesn’t.
That said, Cortana coming back the way she did WAS dumb. And Johnson’s never really canonically come back from the dead.
Not in the traditional sense. Its more like extreme time dilation.
Yes, I believe he did. Though in the same series, Iso-Didact did quickly age the Primordial to “kill” it, so the Forerunners do indeed have the ability to properly manipulate time on a cellular level. So they could change the Halo Array to work this way if they wanted in-game as the game’s canon > than novel canon (or any other secondary source).
It wouldn’t be the first time something established in a book and considered canon was changed; i.e. Sgt. Johnson, as Bungie wasn’t happy with the novelized reason for his immunity to Flood infection.
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With respect to time travel, I’ve never seen anyone else mention Atriox in Halo Infinite’s post credit scene.
He’s missing his face paint (or is it tattoos), and this is the only time we’ve ever seen him without it. It has me wondering if Atriox did indeed die when Zeta Halo exploded, and this is a past version of himself.
Time will tell.
Time travel can be kind of cool in fiction stories. Imo mostly it’s just a fallback story arc when writers are out of ideas though
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The Halos kill however the narrative needs them to. There’s no reason for The Halos to kill The Flood at The Ark, for instance. But it did.
No, actual time travel does exist.
The A.I. Melissa was sent back through time 500 years, for example…
Fair point.
As I said, I wouldn’t even mind if this particular part of the Halo lore was retconned. After all, the Forerunner saga already has an “unreliable narrator” frame story…
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It’s referenced in the Encyclopedia that the Endless have some control over living time. There’s also a ton of time imagery, metaphors and even outright time jumps. That all seems to strongly suggest this is where they might be going.
If I had to guess on the why. Well, it’s very odd that they seem to have started the story at the end with Chiefs most climactic battle already decided; with Cortana dead and the UNSC defeated. So are they bringing time travel to loop you back to that fight?
Is going back in time and saving Skynet too on the nose? Well both the main hero Chief and Atriox have very good reasons to do this if time travel is a thing. Atriox would want to save Doisac and he has the means to do that with a Halo ring.
Chief at one point seems convinced that he could have stopped Cortana and talked her down over destroying Doisac. If there is time travel, well we’re shown there’s still good in the character which only reaffirms this view and he has the AI which (if we haven’t been lied to) which trapped Cortana in the first place.
In other words they are probably going to use time travel as it’s used in the Avengers films. A way of reversing an incredibly destructive moment in the story and bring things to a climax between the hero and the villain. Then be neatly put away once it’s fulfilled its purpose.
I think the Endless are dangerous because they have control over Living Time and maybe exist apart from it. So the only way to trap them is by using a stasis lock in conjunction with a Cylex which fixes them in space and time. Which is why there is a Time Machine in Zeta Halo. Remember the Endless aren’t the only mystery. One of last lines of the game is that there is something different and off about this installation specifically.
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