I know people are upset that the Swords of Sanghelios Sangheili have the Halo 4 design. I know people were expecting the original design to be utilized for them, but were not very happy when we saw them. From what I’ve heard, the reason the Swords of Sanghelios looks like that is due to time as well as the budget. I’ve heard Frankie said this (don’t have link).
So…Where or what is the question?
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Could be an answer to the question.
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> I know people are upset that the Swords of Sanghelios Sangheili have the Halo 4 design. I know people were expecting the original design to be utilized for them, but were not very happy when we saw them. From what I’ve heard, the reason the Swords of Sanghelios looks like that is due to time as well as the budget. I’ve heard Frankie said this (don’t have link).
Sounds like a load of bull to me, microsoft has a ton of money and seeing as how Halo 5 is their flagship franchise for the xbox I don’t think money is the first issue. I think its straight up being lazy. First of all, the arbiter isn’t playable and yet they designed a brand new model for him from the ground up. And didn’t take the effort to make him look proper. That’s all there is to it, 343 absolutely sucks at providing any kind of consistency whatsoever.
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> Sounds like a load of bull to me, microsoft has a ton of money and seeing as how Halo 5 is their flagship franchise for the xbox I don’t think money is the first issue. I think its straight up being lazy. First of all, the arbiter isn’t playable and yet they designed a brand new model for him from the ground up. And didn’t take the effort to make him look proper. That’s all there is to it, 343 absolutely sucks at providing any kind of consistency whatsoever.
Just because Microsoft has money in no way means the 343i got a blank check to make this game.
Define a proper look for the Arbiter. His armor is the same that he wears in the Halo2A cutscene
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> Sounds like a load of bull to me, microsoft has a ton of money and seeing as how Halo 5 is their flagship franchise for the xbox I don’t think money is the first issue. I think its straight up being lazy. First of all, the arbiter isn’t playable and yet they designed a brand new model for him from the ground up. And didn’t take the effort to make him look proper. That’s all there is to it, 343 absolutely sucks at providing any kind of consistency whatsoever.
Because Elites always stayed consistent in Bungie’s games… </sarcasm>
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> Sounds like a load of bull to me, microsoft has a ton of money and seeing as how Halo 5 is their flagship franchise for the xbox I don’t think money is the first issue. I think its straight up being lazy. First of all, the arbiter isn’t playable and yet they designed a brand new model for him from the ground up. And didn’t take the effort to make him look proper. That’s all there is to it, 343 absolutely sucks at providing any kind of consistency whatsoever.
Or just maybe, it wasn’t that high on their priority list. Making the story great, having good gameplay and having great graphics is probably more important than making one group of elites look different. The SoS are probably not even in most of the game unlike the storm covenant. Never call 343 lazy. That’s just making assumptions. And you know what happens when you assume…
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> Sounds like a load of bull to me, microsoft has a ton of money and seeing as how Halo 5 is their flagship franchise for the xbox I don’t think money is the first issue. I think its straight up being lazy. First of all, the arbiter isn’t playable and yet they designed a brand new model for him from the ground up. And didn’t take the effort to make him look proper. That’s all there is to it, 343 absolutely sucks at providing any kind of consistency whatsoever.
The Arbiter has had this armor for quite a while now… First showed up in Escalations a year ago, as well as H2A months ago. I’m not sure where that part of your argument was heading.
It’s not laziness. Frankie has stated that. GrimBrotherOne (writing team) has stated that, and thoroughly explained that it’s due to resources and time and cost and focus on other, more important things. 343i would love for each individual enemy/friendly/character to be unique, but that’s just not feasible.
Try not to just randomly assume things when talking about game development. Especially do not assume laziness.
I think people are disappointed because it was assumed that 343 would be using the Halo 2 A designs for the Swords of Sangheilios in Halo 5, and some believed that the reason the Halo 4 Elites looked so different was because they were a separate race due to them being from Hesduros. Personally I think the elegant and sophisticated Halo 2 A designs would have better suited the SoS in Halo 5, and the savage designs Halo 4 worked well for Jul’s faction since they’re less stable and politically organized.
It would have served Halo 5’s visual storytelling well and would have shown some visual contrast between the Sos and Jul’s factions. It’s sad that 343 didn’t have the time or resources to include it.
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the Arbiter as one of the main characters should have been done properly…
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As previously asked in this thread, what was not done properly with the Arbiter design?
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This isn’t a contest fam. This is about what we the customers want
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Or the Brutes.
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How much time and money is required to add a different looking Elite?
Why are people acting like this is the 16 bit era?
They are defending their lack of armor costumization by saying that they will all SO MANY different looks.
But they cant have two kinds of Elites?
Ha, i say, HA!
I think they’ll be fine.
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Most customers don’t give a damn about the Elites design. Get over it or don’t play the game, simple.
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Johnson was one of the main characters in the original Halo trilogy and his appearance from Halo 2 to Halo 3 are completely different. -Yoink- changes dude, get over it.
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Don’t forget about Miranda Keyes. She was a completely different human. I remember thinking she had been replaced with a Cylon skinjob or something because she sounded completely different. I’m used to Halo having an ever-changing canon that is perpetually in a state of flux, so I really don’t mind this stuff. People look back at the original games as being concrete in their canonical design but fail to account for graphical limitations of the original Xbox. Perhaps canonically Elites were always meant to look this way, but they didn’t have time to put the level of detail into Halo CE for the models. Obviously there are other sources of canon, but I’m just trying to get an idea across.