Pros Complaining About Skill Gap in a Game That Aims For You is Hilarious

Sounds like you’ll be a big fan of the mnk buffs coming in hot.

How are you sure those people are playing on KBM? Are you just assuming because they went positive? Are you asking them? Sending them messages? Just curious.

KBM is dead. Halo Tracker even removed the KBM list from their site.

It has been dead for a while now…

https://forums.halowaypoint.com/t/tell-me-kbm-is-dead-without-telling-me-kbm-is-dead/548338

Their profile is a PC profile. I play from Europe which is not an Xbox region but a PS + PC region, or PC only for gaming. Now population beeing what it is in Europe we get 65% or more games in USA based servers(ping comparison with MCC for determination). That stuff with the sidekick beeing spammed is the first sign a player is on PC when playing at 150 ping. The clicks on the PC gamer ar spammed fast they get in the network buffer and when my console receives them they sounds and act very fast(network prection algorithm + network command buffer + attacker advantage). That is the sure sign. I can then check profile validate my assumptions and yes it’s on PC. Another sure clue in those network conditions(same reasons) is the speed with wich they strafe(left - right strafe only not taking about diagonal movements).

So seeing if a player is on PC is easy, check profile and you see. Knowing if it is KnM at that ping (135-160ms) it’s noticeable due to previous explanations

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Just because you see a PC profile, doesn’t mean they’re using KBM. There are way more PC players using controller with Halo. So you’re just assuming they’re using KBM because they are on PC.

There’s a reason why 343 didn’t include an icon showing what input a user is using. They knew KBM would die off.

My explanation is complete. Please reread it. I explained how I know for sure they are on PC and then empirically baesd on where I’m gaming, the published 343i articles about their network architecture for the game and the digital behavior of opponents beeing more noticeable in larger ping situations to make an educated guess that they most probably are on keyboard

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I have read it, you’re just assuming.

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Plus the fact that they only complain after game via text message in the in game chat only confirms this

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No, it doesn’t. You’re still assuming.

Yes I assume. But it is an educated guess as I said. And they do complain when they loose obviously about the team quality. And they do that with text messages in game. I know it’s just an empirical observation but it matches the facts(EU situation especially)

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I can play with a controller on my PC and still type in game. Proves nothing.

You’re right, he’s the only person I know to fit it. No one else I know has bothered to play with both controller and kb+m. Vast majority of my friends are from h3 or earlier, so almost none of us have ever had the thought to switch.

I’m sure if he put in the reps on controller he would get better, it was just a large drop off. Out of our group, when we all play, I’d say he’s reliable and probably 4th when on kb+m but on controller, he’s 4th from last, so 25th of my friends list. He actually only tried because he was tired of the constant crashes on pc, so picked up a series s and was trying controller.

I can understand that. Maybe KBM just feels natural and native to your friend, hence the reason why he went out and bought an Xbox. He could have also just used KBM on his Xbox. Your friend doesn’t speak for masses. There are plenty of KBM players that made the switch and/or tried out controller, and videos of this happening that played as good if not better than with KBM. This is not news. The KBM community has been killed off, hence the reason there is only crossplay ranked now.

Makes me laugh people consider this game competitive. It’s the most noob friendly shooter of all time. 343 built this in mind for competitive play and it makes H4 seem like a competitive shooter in comparison.

Really? H4 is more competitive than HI? Have you even played H4?

I reread it and all I can say is that is the worst explanation I ever read sorry dude. :rofl:
But I appreciate your will to demonstrate how mnk are ruling this game.
There are approximatively 4k players per day on steam. I don’t even think quarter of it is mnk but let’s admit it.
Daily global population of HI seems to be at 180k players. So the 1% mnk community is harassing you ? Come on…

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@ChMarP also claimed that he “knows people are on mnk because they’re on steam”. A reminder, that they had to remove the KBM ranked playlists because of how low the population. Based on my personal game time , I run into a KBM player perhaps 1/100 matches.

Do not misinterpret what I said. And do not try to use my argumentation to construct the ideea that I complain about KnM are ruling. Plus I never said anything about steam. And I said nothing about steam. I do not know how halo on steam works if it uses xbox live account behind the scenes or not because if it does not then my console settings make it that I never intersect with them(yes the console settings works but it says nothing about cross-platform or cross-input only about must having to use an Xbox live account).

So this ideea about only quoting steam number is very biased. I’m sure there are at least as much players using the MS store version of halo.

And please do not compare the distribution of MnK players in US with the distribution of MnK in Europe. I simply state that at my level of competence in multiplayer(MMR rank) the KnM player tend to have better KDA and better accuracy and better heads hots kills.

And stating that the MnK Playlist was taken down is not a proof that MnK players are no more only that they are not numerous enough and not available enough to maintain a Playlist for them.

@TH3JMANx17 you are probably US based so the distribution of PC players for you is something different than it is in Europe so you probably encounter less and ai way more.

Steam numbers must be quite accurate given the fact that purchasing HI by microsoft store is a nightmare. I did. And I regret. (And I downloaded it again by steam. )
And once again, even if you include microsoft store users, plenty of them play controller. Adding a few hundreds of mnk to the numbers I gave doesn’t change nothing.

Oh and by the way, Europe has nothing to do with the problem. I use mnk in western EU and I don’t meet a lot of mnk players. And trust me, now that mnk left the boat and only get rekt by aim assisted controllers.

You do not know that plenty of them play controller. You simply can’t know that. Nor can I know that they all play KnM.

And there are a lot of people with game pass for pc and ultimate that may use halo from MS store so they can play campaign too. So we really don’t know the number of active PC players. But for sure (using only Steam numbers) they are distributed more in Europe than us.

I don’t know what your skill level is and how many MnK you meed for for the casual levels(silver, gold, platinum) there are many MnK players in Europe.

Again that aim assist advantage at a silver, gold level where most players are situated I believe it to be a bit overstated.

That is how it works. To play Halo from Steam, you need to have or create a Microsoft account which is native to Xbox. For an example: If I’m playing Halo from Steam, I will show up on my friends Xbox console friends list as I’m playing Halo but they will see the PC icon next to “Playing Halo Infinite”. This is also what they will see if I’m playing Halo from Xbox on PC. If you have “game bar” on PC, you can press Windows key + G while playing Halo on Steam and your Xbox Live friends list will pop up.

Like I’ve been saying, you’re just assuming.