PROOF that the Boltshot is NOT OP!

Games Other Halo
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I have played 900 games of only 4v4 slayer the CORE game mode of ALL halos. I have died a total of 80 times from the BS. Yes that’s less than one percent oft games. This is still not enough proof for some people. I think people don’t understand cause they are playing game types like FFA and
CTF which force themselves into bad situations

Halo and other competive games like Starcraft are balanced around ONE core game mode. It’s impossible to balance 2v2 Starcraft just like it would be to balance weapons in halo to 10 game modes.

So every halo has been and always will be balanced around slayer

So the next ingredient is the one people don’t think about and the biggest thing.

The BS is very good to surprise or camp against people.

BUT I there is no surprise Element or camping the BS is THE WEAKEST gun in the game.

So by adding those two points together slayer plus knowledge of enemy with bolt shot… HERE is the PROOF.

I challenge Anyone to a one weapon only 1 on 1, BS for you and ill take ANYTHING u want… A plasma pistol, or a storm rifle, or maybe just a Scattershot since its somehow inferior.

And I will prove to you, not how good I am(spolier alert Im very good)but just HOW WEAK the boltshot is when u know its coming and it’s slayer and not a game
Mode which forces u toward the only strength the BS has.

And I have tested this against my roommate who is also very good at HALO. He was always on the side that understands how limited the BS is in combat that doesn’t involve campin or suprise. but after getting tagged by a plasma pistol 4 times and falcon punched over and over inside the Boltshots “OP” firing range. He now realizes its the element of suprise that is beating people not the bolt shot.

And again, if you think I’m crazy, send a friend invite to me on live. I will prove my point, not with over the top skill, but simple smart tactics which will frustrate u since u will be using the weakest weapon in the game, the Boltshot which the other guy knows u have.

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Of course I would lose if I only had a boltshot. You would know exactly what I have and stay away the entire game. It is used as a noob combo weapon a lot of the time too, so we wouldn’t be taking the full advantage of it.

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OP, how can you go this long without touching any other playlists besides Slayer? That baffles me.

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Boltshot needs a range nerf. It doesn’t matter when I’m surprised, it matters when I get kill from 5 feet away.

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“Yes that’s less than one percent oft games” what did you mean by that?

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I’m sure he plays other match types, he just favors Slayer. And he’s right. Its not really an OP weapon, though it is a good 1-shot ambush weapon. I’ve killed as many people using it as I have been killed by it (Mostly in FFA, the stealth-ambush is usually easily countered with Promethean Vision). During Slayer I’ve noticed its really only mediocre at best due to its limited range and having to charge it. I find Snipers more annoying in Slayer.

Personally I rather carry a plasma pistol and some plasma grenades over the boltshot.

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Sorry but team slayer is too boring for me, I prefer free for all. Regicide for example is filled with overcharged boltshots. Charged boltshot + camo = overpowered.

Besides that saying you’ve completed 900+ games of 4 on 4 slayer means nothing because if you stay far enough away from boltshot users the charge up won’t kill you instantly.

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Lightshield > Boltshot

Try it sometime. =)

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Why should a spawning weapon be stronger than the shotgun and scattershot? That’s the main point everyone is making. More times than I care to count, I go around the corner with one of those two weapons, expecting the weapon advantage in a CQC battle, only for his boltshot to out range me and kill me first. It’s very infuriating.

It doesn’t matter how smart/skilled of a player you are, because that is NOT balanced. A secondary that has more range than a power weapon? And EVERYONE gets to spawn with it? That’s not balanced. That’s broken.

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> “Yes that’s less than one percent oft games” what did you mean by that?

I’m at work on my IPhone, my bad. I meant to say I get killed by the weakest gun in the game less than 1 percent of the games I play.

I only play slayer cause I have purchased and played every halo the day it came out. SO, what’s my point. Having experienced every halo since its very first minute to years after their release, slayer is unquestionably the way to play halo.

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For anyone to even complain the BS is OP is ridiculous, its perfectly balanced with all weapons along with melee. I can get a lot of kills with it but it all goes down to what map I’m playing and what armor abilities I’m using (I prefer hologram. The only way I would accept a challenge with a 1v1 with me a BS is if we both used it, because any other weapon along with your knowledge of me using the BS would have the over advantage.

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> Why should a spawning weapon be stronger than the shotgun and scattershot? That’s the main point everyone is making. More times than I care to count, I go around the corner with one of those two weapons, expecting the weapon advantage in a CQC battle, only for his boltshot to out range me and kill me first. It’s very infuriating.
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> It doesn’t matter how smart/skilled of a player you are, because that is NOT balanced. A secondary that has more range than a power weapon? And EVERYONE gets to spawn with it? That’s not balanced. That’s broken.

So your saying you can beat me one on one wih a Boltshot if I had a shotgun or scatte shot? I don’t understand the other stuff u wrote, it sounded like you we’re describing how to play terribly.

I on the hand do stuff like JUMP or talk to a teammate or maybe even use an AA ability before rushing in like an idiot

Again if the Boltshot is OP then u will be able to beat me if I use(my final offer) a plasma pistol with only 25 percent of its clip.

I on the other hand KNOW the scatter and shorty are better than a BS and will beat u 1 on 1 not with my guns inferior range but this thing called strafing, jumping, and misdirection.

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> Why should a spawning weapon be stronger than the shotgun and scattershot? That’s the main point everyone is making. More times than I care to count, I go around the corner with one of those two weapons, expecting the weapon advantage in a CQC battle, only for his boltshot to out range me and kill me first. It’s very infuriating.
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> It doesn’t matter how smart/skilled of a player you are, because that is NOT balanced. A secondary that has more range than a power weapon? And EVERYONE gets to spawn with it? That’s not balanced. That’s broken.

I don’t feel like it’s more powerful than the shotgun, but the it is stronger than the scattershot… for sure!

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BS kills in one shot, has low charge time and you can spawn with it. It is far superior to the Magnum and Plasma Pistol, unless you have reason to use the Magnum over a Primary (AR or Suppressor Primary?) or are playing a vehicle-intensive map. It has plenty of range on it and it negates the Hammer and Sword completely, along with outdoing a Scattershot in CQC. It’s equal to the Shotgun in CQC.

How can anyone defend this? It’s just a gross weapon.

Also, for reasons already stated, duelling a Boltshot isn’t a way to prove it isn’t overpowered.

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> > “Yes that’s less than one percent oft games” what did you mean by that?
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> I’m at work on my IPhone, my bad. I meant to say I get killed by the weakest gun in the game less than 1 percent of the games I play.
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> I only play slayer cause I have purchased and played every halo the day it came out. SO, what’s my point. Having experienced every halo since its very first minute to years after their release, slayer is unquestionably the way to play halo.

It’s less than 10%, not 1%
The BS is BS

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I think you number of games played to your number of deaths to the BS is misleading…

If you really wanted to make a point you would look at all the secondary weapons that you have been killed with in comparison to the amount of the time the BS has killed you. IN other words you probably only die 1 or 2 percent of the time to all secondary weapons not just the boltshot.

The only true agruement about the BS being OP is when you consider that it is a loadout weapon, that is the problem, it is ONLY load out weapon that can is one shot kill. That is where the BS is OP, if it were only an ordance weapon then there would be less complainers.

I think that the BS is OP, but it doesnt bother me like it does others because EVERYONE has access to it which makes for an even playing field, I wonder why some people do not use it.

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> BS kills in one shot, has low charge time and you can spawn with it. It is far superior to the Magnum and Plasma Pistol, unless you have reason to use the Magnum over a Primary (AR or Suppressor Primary?) or are playing a vehicle-intensive map. It has plenty of range on it and it negates the Hammer and Sword completely, along with outdoing a Scattershot in CQC. It’s equal to the Shotgun in CQC.
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> How can anyone defend this? It’s just a gross weapon.
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> Also, for reasons already stated, duelling a Boltshot isn’t a way to prove it isn’t overpowered.

That pretty much covers it as far as I’m concerned…

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> So your saying you can beat me one on one wih a Boltshot if I had a shotgun or scatte shot? I don’t understand the other stuff u wrote, it sounded like you we’re describing how to play terribly.
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> I on the hand do stuff like JUMP or talk to a teammate or maybe even use an AA ability before rushing in like an idiot
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> Again if the Boltshot is OP then u will be able to beat me if I use(my final offer) a plasma pistol with only 25 percent of its clip.
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> I on the other hand KNOW the scatter and shorty are better than a BS and will beat u 1 on 1 not with my guns inferior range but this thing called strafing, jumping, and misdirection.

Tell me where I said that I could beat you in a 1v1. Because I didn’t. Just because you’re good at a game doesn’t mean everyone wants to 1v1 you when debating about something. It’s pointless to even try a 1v1 where you already know the only weapon your opponent gets. It just becomes a stagnant poke fight. Doesn’t matter what you get.

You clearly don’t understand the concept of weapon balance. Why should everyone get to spawn with something that destroys the hammer, sword, shotgun, and scattershot? It doesn’t matter if you don’t die to it as often as other people do. The fact is that everyone can spawn with it, and it is better than several power weapons. That is not balanced.

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My math might be BS but you all Still wont take
Me up on my Challange, which proves you arent
Scared of any weapon (ill use a magnum with one clip to show how poor u play this game) but your problem is your getting outsmarted and blame it on a weapon. I will beat u with ANY gun if u use the “OP” BS.

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I’m not saying ill out skill u. I can and will abuse, use, and outsmart someone using the least versatile
Weapon in the game.

You get killed by Boltshots when u use a hammer sword or shotty?

Sorry but I do maybe 2 outta ten times. Cause I use OP things like strafing, jumping and mistiming.

If u don’t Beilve me check my stats then come get a free schoolin. Lesson 1 only idiots lose to a Boltshot if u have a CDC power weapon.