Can Prometheans be corrupted by the Logic Plague or are they ‘immune’ in a way do to the fact that they’re more like mindless slaves than sentient beings? Technically they do have stored personalities, correct? If so, could those personalities be subject to the Gravemind’s corruptive powers?
Great questions and I honestly don’t know. I would assume, no? Since that was the whole point of them to be essentially mindless hive fighters and only take direct orders from 1 authority figure, which seems to have to be only a forerunner.
I’m going to assume no. Seeing as how quickly the data is purged upon a Knights demise and how nothing is left for the Flood to control due to disintegration, I wouldn’t be surprised if it had a function that wipes itself prematurely if the Logic Plague was detected.
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>> They can in-fact be infected by the Logic Plague… as all sentient and/or artificial beings are subject to its disorderly corruption. The Promethean automatons being somewhat illusive of self-thinking dictates they do in-fact need an alpha figure to address their primary auxilary… however… that can simply be programed. Bear witness as all shall fear the might of the corruption and sanction of the Logic Plague… <<
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I’d say yes.
Even if the Prometheans are ‘mindless robots’, they have to retain some decision-making capability to be effective fighters. Besides, if their intelligence is just a series of commands with a random number generator to mix things up, why Compose humans? Why are composed individuals needed unless the Promethean Knights themselves retain some sort of sapience?
So, yeah. The Promethean Knights can be taken out by the Logic Plague. Even if they self-destruct to prevent defection, that still counts as a win for the Gravemind.
I always assumed that the Prometheans were “immune” to the Flood completely, which was why the Didact wanted to make them in the first place. They have the body of a machine so the Flood cannot consume their biomass, and the mind of a living being thanks to the Composer, so they can’t be corrupted like other AIs. That’s the way I’ve always thought of it anyway.
they were immune on a physical level not ‘mental’ if you will but I mean the gravemind would have to keep them alive for that I would assume because of the data purge as previously stated clears them of everything I mean they would theoretically be convincible but they would have to be alive for that to be useful.
The only way they could be affected is if the gravemind could communicate to the prometheans. I do not believe that the prometheans would allow communication with anything.
That is interesting question. I believe that Prometheans are uncorrubtable. Why, well they are not smart AI like 343 Guilty Spark, so they have some intelligence left but not too much for being effected by logic plague.
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> I’m going to assume no. Seeing as how quickly the data is purged upon a Knights demise and how nothing is left for the Flood to control due to disintegration, I wouldn’t be surprised if it had a function that wipes itself prematurely if the Logic Plague was detected.
If the Prometheans purged themselves at the first sign of the Plague, they’d be useless given the speeds the Plague was propagating at. They’d be committing suicide as soon as they came within the vicinity of the Flood.
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Not necessarily but I suppose the Gravemind would eventually find and take advantage of that weakness. I’d say, if the Gravemind were able to communicate with Prometheans, it’s possible for them to get corrupted, however, communication with Prometheans may not be possible.
With how the Timeless One had gotten to the Didact, I sort of doubt they were ‘truely’ mean to fight the flood. He even talks himself how they’re meant to stop any species from threatening the forerunners again.
He was really just a pawn set in motion to further disrupt forerunner plans and spread misery. I mean, without the logic plague, the prometheans seem like a great idea on paper, but the logic plague and just how late this plan comes into motion makes the whole thing a wasted effort.
He wasn’t even ready to mobilize them fully by the time the Greater Ark was destroyed.
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They’d have to get orders somehow. Prometheans aren’t totally autonomous, or else the Didact wouldn’t have to lead them, and issue orders. All the Gravemind would have to do is take control of the device through which orders are issued, spread through the multiple connected networks and hijack the AI, or otherwise mess with it…pretty much like what he did with every other AI.
Well I also think that the Prometheans can’t be corrupted by the Flood, because they are such similar to the Sentinels (mostly). But hell, just imagine: if the Flood army would attack the galaxy and the Gravemind would find a way to controll all the Prometheans and all of them would fight alongside the infected living, then humanity might need a Master Chief to finish the fight… But seriously: Prometheans + Flood = teleporting Flood?! OMG…
I think the prometheans could be controlled by the grave mind just because they changed aliance from the didact, to the librarian, back to the didact.
It would be very unlikely that the Prometheans would be vulnerable to the Flood. Their purpose was too destroy it and they seem to behave like savages under control of one master. The fact that they change allegiance so easily seems to indicate that they are not sentient but rather take orders form whatever master takes control of them. There is also the fact that they could not be fully sentient because the Composer causes the personalities to fragment. This would make it hard for the Flood to convince them to afflict them with the Logic Plague, but I will read up on it more.
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> Can Prometheans be corrupted by the Logic Plague or are they ‘immune’ in a way do to the fact that they’re more like mindless slaves than sentient beings? Technically they do have stored personalities, correct? If so, could those personalities be subject to the Gravemind’s corruptive powers?
I think the origonal forerunner promethians are thinking beings that make choices for themselves, however the human promethians are mindless slaves robbed of their freedom of choice.
On second thought they may still be controlled by the Gravemind. Why? Let’s have a look at Jul 'Mdama. In Spartan Ops it seems like he easily managed to make the Promethean Knights do his bidding. (For example the Knights attacked the Infinity when Jul wanted them to attack. Also they kidnapped Halse because Jul commanded them. And at the end of the Spartan Ops they protected him as he ordered them.) And why would they obey a single Elite? I think it’s clear that the Didact has nothing to do with them at that time. So in my opinion Jul managed to make them believe that he really is the envoy of the Didact (the Didact’s Hand as he states). So if they can so easily be corrupted by a single Elite, I don’t see why the Gravemind wouldn’t be able to do so, (at least somehow indirectly)… Or there’s another posibility: if the Didact ordered the Prometheans to follow Jul’s commands, but this is what we can’t know for sure.