Hey guys, I just have a small question for ya:
What’s with the presence of Prometheans on other worlds? I had thought that they were only local to Requiem, being Ur-Didacts “project” or some such thing.
Or might my question only be answered in H5G?
I’m usually pretty tight on lore, but it’s been a while for me, so apologies for missing anything recent lol.
Watchers and Crawlers just seem to be support AI, though it seems like the Knights are becoming less common with the inclusion of the Soldier. It’s possible any new knights are those composed at New Phoenix, as the transfer portal for the data seems to have gone to Installation 03, not Requiem.
The Soldiers are not exclusively Promethean, they just get the moniker due to being employed by them.
Promethean Knights are composed beings (Human and Forerunner exclusively it seems) and are controlled by the Ur-Didact. At an unknown point of time in Halo 4/Spartan Ops, the Ur-Didact gave joint control of the Knights to Jul’Mdama, so they follow him to an extent now.
Soldiers, Watchers and Crawlers are all AI and can move under command, It’s safe to assume that with control of the Knights, Jul’Mdama also has some control over Forerunner AI such as these.
But the E3 Demo of Halo 5 suggests that it’s possible these Forerunner AI are acting under some other command than that of Jul’Mdama.
They appear to belong to the guardian
They are probably being controlled by the Warden Eternal.
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> Promethean Knights are composed beings (Human and Forerunner exclusively it seems) and are controlled by the Ur-Didact. At an unknown point of time in Halo 4/Spartan Ops, the Ur-Didact gave joint control of the Knights to Jul’Mdama, so they follow him to an extent now.
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> Soldiers, Watchers and Crawlers are all AI and can move under command, It’s safe to assume that with control of the Knights, Jul’Mdama also has some control over Forerunner AI such as these.
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> But the E3 Demo of Halo 5 suggests that it’s possible these Forerunner AI are acting under some other command than that of Jul’Mdama.
Very interesting. Thanks guys, just needed some clarification lol.
If there’s any discussion relevant to the topic, go ahead and use this thread.
I’d say that the Promethean Knights are now considered rarer, as their aren’t any “composers” to create more, however, it is known that the composed essences just transmit themselves to other bodies if theirs is destroyed… so the Promethean Knights population can increase via more composing, but never loose any essences, at least from the common sense of death, perhaps the logic plague could do something, it just depends on the production of more Promethean bodies?
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> Promethean Knights are composed beings (Human and Forerunner exclusively it seems) and are controlled by the Ur-Didact. At an unknown point of time in Halo 4/Spartan Ops, the Ur-Didact gave joint control of the Knights to Jul’Mdama, so they follow him to an extent now.
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> Soldiers, Watchers and Crawlers are all AI and can move under command, It’s safe to assume that with control of the Knights, Jul’Mdama also has some control over Forerunner AI such as these.
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> But the E3 Demo of Halo 5 suggests that it’s possible these Forerunner AI are acting under some other command than that of Jul’Mdama.
Where does it say that the Soldiers are AI? We don’t know much about them besides that they are A) Prometheans B) They use light rifles, suppressors, and a new type of turret and C) They can speak. If they are AI, they’re much more advanced than watchers and crawlers. Sorry, that just really bothered me. We don’t know much about them yet.
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> > Promethean Knights are composed beings (Human and Forerunner exclusively it seems) and are controlled by the Ur-Didact. At an unknown point of time in Halo 4/Spartan Ops, the Ur-Didact gave joint control of the Knights to Jul’Mdama, so they follow him to an extent now.
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> > Soldiers, Watchers and Crawlers are all AI and can move under command, It’s safe to assume that with control of the Knights, Jul’Mdama also has some control over Forerunner AI such as these.
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> > But the E3 Demo of Halo 5 suggests that it’s possible these Forerunner AI are acting under some other command than that of Jul’Mdama.
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> Where does it say that the Soldiers are AI? We don’t know much about them besides that they are A) Prometheans B) They use light rifles, suppressors, and a new type of turret and C) They can speak. If they are AI, they’re much more advanced than watchers and crawlers. Sorry, that just really bothered me. We don’t know much about them yet.
The Canon Fodder about two weeks back delved into their origins and Hunters in the Dark, a book that also released a few weeks back, introduced the Armiger machines. Soldiers are a variety of Armiger.
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> > > Promethean Knights are composed beings (Human and Forerunner exclusively it seems) and are controlled by the Ur-Didact. At an unknown point of time in Halo 4/Spartan Ops, the Ur-Didact gave joint control of the Knights to Jul’Mdama, so they follow him to an extent now.
> > > Soldiers, Watchers and Crawlers are all AI and can move under command, It’s safe to assume that with control of the Knights, Jul’Mdama also has some control over Forerunner AI such as these.
> > > But the E3 Demo of Halo 5 suggests that it’s possible these Forerunner AI are acting under some other command than that of Jul’Mdama.
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> > Where does it say that the Soldiers are AI? We don’t know much about them besides that they are A) Prometheans B) They use light rifles, suppressors, and a new type of turret and C) They can speak. If they are AI, they’re much more advanced than watchers and crawlers. Sorry, that just really bothered me. We don’t know much about them yet.
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> The Canon Fodder about two weeks back delved into their origins and Hunters in the Dark, a book that also released a few weeks back, introduced the Armiger machines. Soldiers are a variety of Armiger.
OK, thanks. I never noticed that. I guess I should have checked. My fault.
Jul 'Mdama brought the Prometheans (Crawlers, Watcher, and Knights) with him when his Covenant was leaving the soon-to-be-destroyed Requiem.
The reason why they follow Jul is because the Didact gave him control of his forces.
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> Promethean Knights are composed beings (Human and Forerunner exclusively it seems) and are controlled by the Ur-Didact. At an unknown point of time in Halo 4/Spartan Ops, the Ur-Didact gave joint control of the Knights to Jul’Mdama, so they follow him to an extent now.
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> Soldiers, Watchers and Crawlers are all AI and can move under command, It’s safe to assume that with control of the Knights, Jul’Mdama also has some control over Forerunner AI such as these.
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> But the E3 Demo of Halo 5 suggests that it’s possible these Forerunner AI are acting under some other command than that of Jul’Mdama.
yes
So essentially are the soldiers a type of gun for hire in a way because they aren’t exclusively promethean? Just wondering on their origin a bit I ordered Hunters In The Dark and read the cannon fodder but am just curious because they differ from the origin and purpose of the knights