Promethean Weapons Discussion

The Promethean weapons just suck?

The lightRife runs out of ammo too fast and indicates where you are, not to mention its reticule is too big to aim.

The BoltShot A.K.A. The load out Shotgun is to over powered.

The Suppressor, your enemy has to be at least a foot away from you in order to be hit.

The ScatterShot has a rate of fire thats closer to the LightRifle then it is to the Shotgun.

Incineration cannon is a buffed up version of the Fuel Rod cannon.

The BinaryRifle is a one shot menace, yeah sure it gives your position away but so what, people still die instantly.

And the Pulse Grenade, no one ever uses this and it never works. Everyone avoids the damn thing.

They have wonderful animations and other than the Bolt Shot and the Incinerator Cannon they are either ammo hogs or ineffectual.

Too much time making them glow, not enough time making them work.

the prometheans weapons are great! (except the bolt shot)
light rifle:an incredibly useful weapon once you know how to use it

scatter shot:its fun to use

supressor: its an automatic weapon so it deserves to not be very powerful

bolt shot:shouldnt be a load out weapon

incineration cannon: weapon of mass destruction

binary rifle: sniper of mass destruction

The surpressor is great for those of us who like to get up close,unfortunately there seems to be a shotgun around evey corner.

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Nope you suck with them all, thats your problem.

  1. Light Rifle has the highest killtime while scope.

  2. Indeed it is overpowered but thats just you that doesn’t know how to use it.

  3. Suppressor RAPES people at close range

  4. Scattershot is pretty good. Again you just suck.

  5. Incineration Rifle is its own weapon.

  6. Binary Rifle is Totally AWESOME

Get better with these guns before you say they suck…

Lightrifle is meh

Pulse grenades WERE good for KoTH but sadly its only on the DLC and no one votes for it

Boltshot is well, the boltshot

Scattershot is slightly annoying seeing as it takes a good 2-3 shots to kill someone close to you, you have to be all up in their hizzy/kool-aid to get that OSK

My suppressor is 4/10 (0/7) so I cant really comment on it

The Binary Rifle makes me feel like the predator and I do that grrgrgrgrrgrggrrrr sound on mic anytime I use it

And Finally the incineration Cannon, Quite possibly the most overpowered gun in halo second to the Scarab gun IMO… I wanna have its babies

> Nope you suck with them all, thats your problem.
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> 1. Light Rifle has the highest killtime while scope.
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> 2. Indeed it is overpowered but thats just you that doesn’t know how to use it.
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> 3. Suppressor RAPES people at close range
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> 4. Scattershot is pretty good. Again you just suck.
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> 5. Incineration Rifle is its own weapon.
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> 6. Binary Rifle is Totally AWESOME
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> Get better with these guns before you say they suck…

No, I don’t suck, these weapons aren’t very effective or over powered.

1.Light Rifle is more of a mid range weapon

2.Suppressor rapes at CLOSE range, you have to be right infront of your enemy, but with the Assault Rifle you could be a good 15 feet away and still get the kill.

3.Scattershot has a high rate of fire for the type of gun that it is.

4.Incineration Cannon has a hit radius.

  1. Binary Rifle, I will admit I enjoy using this weapon, but in my opinion it’s just not cut out for matchmaking games.

they glow, look cool, and make awesome sounds

good enough for me

> The Promethean weapons just suck?
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> The lightRife runs out of ammo too fast and indicates where you are, not to mention its reticule is too big to aim.
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> The BoltShot A.K.A. The load out Shotgun is to over powered.
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> The Suppressor, your enemy has to be at least a foot away from you in order to be hit.
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> The ScatterShot has a rate of fire thats closer to the LightRifle then it is to the Shotgun.
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> Incineration cannon is a buffed up version of the Fuel Rod cannon.
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> The BinaryRifle is a one shot menace, yeah sure it gives your position away but so what, people still die instantly.
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> And the Pulse Grenade, no one ever uses this and it never works. Everyone avoids the damn thing.

Your kidding me. Lightrifle is a 4 shot kill. One zoomed in shot to the head and 3 unzoomed.

Boltshot it’s range is messed up, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t.

Supresser, just wait for a short range battle, this weapon used to be my favorite.

Scattershot, did you know that it’s beams bounce off walls.

Incineration cannon, I don’t understand your fight against it.

Binary rifle again, I don’t see the problem.

Pulse grenade. Try this, go with grenadier and explosives. You start with 2 nades instead of one. And with explosives it does more damage. Now the used for it, blocking off Choke points. Imagine your on adrift running with your friend who has the flag, you throw your two pulse grenades right at the choke point where the 2 lifts are. Not only will they probably die from the pulse grenades but if your shooting at them with any other weapon they are sure to die. And when they explode they disintegrate you.

I don’t understand this thread. You said the weapons ‘suck’ but the Light Rifle is excellent WHERE IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE EXCELLENT, the Incineration Cannon is the most dangerous weapon you could have your hands on, the Boltshot outclasses the other two, the Scattershot is perfectly solid and the Binary Rifle is rockin’. The Suppressor destroys at its ideal range and has stacks upon stacks of ammo.

I don’t get it.

Pulse Grenades, OK, I understand that but you need to hit them directly and few people do.

Pulse greandes - alternative and more effective use:

Use them as the polar opposite of plasma/frag. Don’t warm your opponent up by tossing them. Instead, take down your opponents’ shields, THEN toss the pulse at the ground next to their feet. Dead.

It’s a huge range for a grenade and it will finish your kills and you can move on to the next one :wink:

The Scattershot is the most inconsistent weapon ever in a Halo game. It either does no damage or instant kills.

It kills instantly at a point-blank range, much like previous Halo shotguns.

It does have massive range at which it can land some damage, however.

I dislike most of the Promethean Weapons.

Scattershot is alright. I like it.

Binary Rifle gives away your position immediately and with only two shots is the worst sniper rifle in my opinion. Super hard to pull off a snapshot too.

Light Rifle is good but so much tougher to use than the DMR so why bother? Stick with the noob gun.

Boltshot = useless except in extreme close quarters where it is OP.

Incineration Cannon is strange because it doesn’t kill everything in it’s “kill radius”. It’s incredibly powerful but sometimes if you blast the ground right next to an enemy they survive completely unscathed because they aren’t hit by the “splash”. Long reload time + 1 shot sucks too.

Suppressor is garbage. You couldn’t hit the ground with it if you dropped it.

Oh yeah and Pulse grenades are beyond useless. Even if they WERE useful, you only get one so I still wouldn’t pick it.

My thought on the forerunner weapons and equiptment is this:

The Light Rifle runs out of ammo way to fast, the crosshair is too big, not zoomed in it is nothing to the BR or the Carbine even the DMR is better the Lr only is good for taking down shields when zoomed in and its only an ok weapon for big team but that’s about it.

The Boltshot is not over powered in my eyes its a good weapon for close quarters
I honestly like the Boltshot.

the Suppressor to me is trash it has a fast fire rate a lot of ammo but the crosshair gets bigger way to fast its only good when you are right on the other player I really think it sucks because the AR beats it with range even the storm rifle beats it in range the BR makes it look like a joke the dmr and carbine does as well it is almost useless its an ok weapon :(.

the Scatter shot is ok but the Spartan shotgun makes it look like trash.

The Binary Rifle I love that gun no need to explain why.

The Incineration cannon I love as well no need to explain.

the Pulse Grenade is only good for like CTF objective based games or it can be used as a escape tactic to keep your enemy from rushing your for a small period of time to escape if injured.

the Hardlight Shield sucks if you ask me for one it messes with your mobility making you move slow, doesn’t block much damage, and all they have to do is throw a grenade behind you and then when the shield drops so do you.

the Autosentry is basically useless if you ask me because it has a slow rate of fire compared to the story mode, and one shot only equals the damage of a DMR shot, and it also is very easy to destroy.

Promethean Vision I love it although a complete predator rip off of the thermal vision its like infrared mixed with xray vision or something but its also one of the things I like the most.

Regeneration Field just sucks if you ask me for one its glitch there has been a few times where im in it and it don’t even give me my health back its only good for flipping vehicles while slowly giving you your health back even with the shield perk and the other perk in which is supposed to decrease the time it takes for health to regenerate even with both of those it still sucks I like the bubble shield over this from halo 3.

not only that for the multiplayer they could have gave us some forerunner vehicles to play with if you ask me.

with all of that said I think they did a very crappy job on the forerunner weapons
they could have did better on that light rifle than what they gave us but w/e how are you going to say that the Sangheili worship these forerunners when almost every weapon of the Sangheili is better than the forerunners how do your worship something when you have just about every advantage over the ones you worship just does not make sence.

I respect the people who use the Forerunner Loadout Weapons, personally. Although I tend to never touch them (Excepting the Boltshot, which has given me a few clench-kills when I randomly picked it up), I recognize the skill required for them.

I mean, I have a friend who tends to get consistently positive k/d ratios on EXILE with the Suppressor. Got to admit, it is impressive.

I honestly wish they were more exotic. Right now they are just different versions of human weapons.

Having Mastered All the Weapons, I would say that there is a play style specific to each type of weapon; and if you want to be good with any weapon you have to adapt your play style to match it. The forerunner weapons do not suck by any means. The problem might be that your play style is better suited for Human weapons over Forerunner; the only way to figure this out however is to know your play style and adapt it to fit the weapon in your hand. Only you can answer that question.

Yeah, I agree with pretty much you said (OP). I understand the design - keeping them familiar for game play, but to be honest, I think the community would have preferred something a little more exotic. I certainly would.

Why tailor them to the standard human categories: pistol, shotgun, rifle, etc. when they could have been a bit like the Sentinel beam weapons, or something else to make us adapt to a weapon that you don’t normally see in a mainstream game (multiplayer or singleplayer)?

Yes they look cool, and yes there are some cool animations associated with them, but I do feel that they need balanced/tweaked for H4, and totally overhauled for H5+

My main gripes are with the pistol - too slow; and rifle: too inaccurate.

But since I’ve started playing SWAT more, they rarely come up and I can ignore them. For now.