So are the Knights Forerunners or are they AI? I hope they are AI.
All we can still do is vomit forth theories.
But they are confirmed not to be AI.
> All we can still do is vomit forth theories.
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> But they are confirmed not to be AI.
they are confirmed to not be organic, they are confirmed TO BE AI
I believe the Knights are Forerunners. Prometheans, which is what the Knights and Didact are, are Forerunner Warrior-Servants. So I would assume that they are actual Forerunners. But this is a shield world, and it was meant to have complete defenses for the Forerunners. Onyx didn’t have any Forerunners, only Sentinels, so I am leaning more on the side that they are AI then Forerunners.
I don’t think we have any definite info on this, but I imagine them as organic beings within heavily armored suits that are used to control them from a central commander (The Didact).
Think of the Engineers from ODST and Halo: Reach, unwilling soldiers in the Didact’s war, thats what those little arms on the knights are.
> > All we can still do is vomit forth theories.
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> > But they are confirmed not to be AI.
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> they are confirmed to not be organic, they are confirmed TO BE AI
Somebody needs to watch the vidoc again.
There is strong evidence to suggest they are Forerunner warriors composed into artificial constructs. How? The Composer. What is the Composer? What exactly it is remains a mystery, but it has the ability to convert organic’s consciousness into artificial consciousness. In other words, a physical being turned into an AI.
The Composer first appears as a concept in Halo: Primordium and with a mission named Composer, there is a high chance of it being in the game.
There’s active discussion on the topic over here. Be warned, it does contain spoilers about the Forerunner books and other expanded universe content.
My personal theory is that the Knights are a form of “Combat Skin”, as in they were once “driven” by living Forerunners. This is why they dissolve when killed by any weapon (they are the only class that does so). Once the “driver” died, he/she would become an AI that continued to “drive” the Knight combat skin.
Another popular theory is that the minds of Forerunner were transferred or “composed” into AI that would drive the Knight suits.
> > > All we can still do is vomit forth theories.
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> > > But they are confirmed not to be AI.
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> > they are confirmed to not be organic, they are confirmed TO BE AI
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> Somebody needs to watch the vidoc again.
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FACEPLANT sorry you were right, i was thinking of crawlers lol
I too am very confused. The Prometheans we have seen thus far seem to be absolutely nothing like the descriptions provided by Greg Bear, which i find odd, because 343 worked very closely with him in writing the forerunner trilogy.
Why would they work with him in setting up Halo 4, only to disregard the image he has created. I really don’t think theyd do this, which is why im trying to have faith.
I am hopeful that they are indeed AI’s, like Cortana said in the E3 demo. It has been said somewhere else, about the skulls behind the knights mask, that that was supposed to reflect what would happen to the AI’s after such a long amount of time. I wish 343 would refer to them as Promethean Ai’s and not Prometheans if that was the case.
Only thing that really throws me off, is the tiny organic arms coming out of the Knights chests?
i think they may be dead prometheans ancilla in a body
> i think they may be dead prometheans ancilla in a body
im beginning to think the same thing. Or possibly not even dead, just in a subdued state, being preserved by AI’s in self preserving armor, only the AI has gone rampant, hence the reason they are fighting Humans. Which again makes no sense after the way Primordium left things off…
Cortana says they are not organic, the ViDoc says they are not robots. I’m confused.
> Cortana says they are not organic, the ViDoc says they are not robots. I’m confused.
Well, would you consider Cortana to be a robot or organic?
> I too am very confused. The Prometheans we have seen thus far seem to be absolutely nothing like the descriptions provided by Greg Bear, which i find odd, because 343 worked very closely with him in writing the forerunner trilogy.
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> Why would they work with him in setting up Halo 4, only to disregard the image he has created. I really don’t think theyd do this, which is why im trying to have faith.
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> I am hopeful that they are indeed AI’s, like Cortana said in the E3 demo. It has been said somewhere else, about the skulls behind the knights mask, that that was supposed to reflect what would happen to the AI’s after such a long amount of time. I wish 343 would refer to them as Promethean Ai’s and not Prometheans if that was the case.
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> Only thing that really throws me off, is the tiny organic arms coming out of the Knights chests?
The Prometheans in Halo 4 are not the same to the Prometheans from the Greg Bear novels.
The original Prometheans were the highest class of Forerunner Warrior-Servants. The Prometheans in Halo 4 are related only in name, though there’s supposedly a deeper connection that’ll be explored in Silentium
> > Cortana says they are not organic, the ViDoc says they are not robots. I’m confused.
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> Well, would you consider Cortana to be a robot or organic?
Neither, because she has no physical body. But I have to say that I understand “robot” in this context just as the opposite to an organic being. So for instance I would consider Guilty Spark as a robot although he has feelings etc just because his “shell” is artificial.
> There’s active discussion on the topic over here. Be warned, it does contain spoilers about the Forerunner books and other expanded universe content.
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> My personal theory is that the Knights are a form of “Combat Skin”, as in they were once “driven” by living Forerunners. This is why they dissolve when killed by any weapon (they are the only class that does so). Once the “driver” died, he/she would become an AI that continued to “drive” the Knight combat skin.
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> Another popular theory is that the minds of Forerunner were transferred or “composed” into AI that would drive the Knight suits.
I always considered their disintegration as a means to prevent their artificial minds from re-purposed in some way. If they truly were composed from real forerunners, then maybe it’s a defense mechanism to prevent the flood from finding a way to harness the ‘suits’
Here is mine theory.
Forerunner Prometheans used many different weapons to fight flood and humans. One of them were war sphinxes described in Bear´s Cryptum. Forerunners had technology wich allowed them to “extract mind” of fallen living cretures and “imprint” them into machines. That was the case of Didact´s fallen sons. I believe, this could be similar case. As the 343 says, they are not robots. So i believe they could be some biomechanic creatures imprinted with mind of actual fallen Prometheans.
> > i think they may be dead prometheans ancilla in a body
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> im beginning to think the same thing. Or possibly not even dead, just in a subdued state, being preserved by AI’s in self preserving armor, only the AI has gone rampant, hence the reason they are fighting Humans. Which again makes no sense after the way Primordium left things off…
The subdued state could explain the hanging baby arms on the chest.
> > There’s active discussion on the topic over here. Be warned, it does contain spoilers about the Forerunner books and other expanded universe content.
> >
> > My personal theory is that the Knights are a form of “Combat Skin”, as in they were once “driven” by living Forerunners. This is why they dissolve when killed by any weapon (they are the only class that does so). Once the “driver” died, he/she would become an AI that continued to “drive” the Knight combat skin.
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> > Another popular theory is that the minds of Forerunner were transferred or “composed” into AI that would drive the Knight suits.
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> I always considered their disintegration as a means to prevent their artificial minds from re-purposed in some way. If they truly were composed from real forerunners, then maybe it’s a defense mechanism to prevent the flood from finding a way to harness the ‘suits’
That’s certainly another possibility