So my main issue and the reason for me creating this topic is the fact that the vehicles are extremely weak, especially the warthog. I’ve recorded several clips where a single short burst from an assault rifle has torn chunks off of the armor playing and popped my tires. Same with a ghost and the wasp. So far the tank has spawned once in my game and the wasp has been mentioned as it was dropped and died instantly.
how do we fix these issues?
I think the warthog should have more health and the turret should have more range to make it more impactful because it just doesn’t have any effect on how anyone plays in the match.
power weapons should spawn less and in fewer quantities. I’m talking the ravager the shock rifle that type of thing there doesn’t need to be four ravagers on the map it is wayyyy too powerful. I think the rockets and sniper and things like that are just fine no change needed. But there’s just too many ways to destroy a vehicle. So something like the grapple shot doesn’t need to be another method it’s too much. Vehicles need a buff if big team battle is going to be big team battle rather than just arena but also with vehicles.
For sure every vehicle needs a significant health buff, expect for the Ghost. Also make the reticle visible on the warthog turret, and it should actually be able to kill people
Yeah I definitely agree about vehicles, and I feel like the ravager, shock rifle, and grapple shot all seem to have large negative impacts on vehicle gameplay in BTB.
in my opinion the grapple shot just shouldn’t be able to grapple a vehicle it’s fun, but it’s way too easy.
The only issue I’m having with the vehicles are just the lag imput, I mean it’s nearly impossible to avoid getting splattered by a ghost. That or I’ve been excessively lucky.
I agree. It kills fast, but it has low health and flips way easier than previous games. Turret seems like it may shoot a bit low as well.
I agree on the wasp that thing died to like 3 sniper bolts when i was in it
I disagree to some degree. Just today I hit a hog with 2 rockets and only killed the driver without it exploding. I also stuck a hog with 2 sticky grenades, and 3 bursts with the Ravager to only kill the driver. It feels that the damage to vehicles is very inconsistent across the board.
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> I disagree to some degree. Just today I hit a hog with 2 rockets and only killed the driver without it exploding. I also stuck a hog with 2 sticky grenades, and 3 bursts with the Ravager to only kill the driver. It feels that the damage to vehicles is very inconsistent across the board.
Someone shot me with the Ravager earlier and in one shot took off my rear bumper, and my rear left wheel. It was a shot to the back though. I’ve destroyed a warthog myself with a launcher by AoE with one shot and a direct hit with another so I just don’t know how it’s possible that you are hitting a hog with two rockets, and not destroying it outright.
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> I disagree to some degree. Just today I hit a hog with 2 rockets and only killed the driver without it exploding. I also stuck a hog with 2 sticky grenades, and 3 bursts with the Ravager to only kill the driver. It feels that the damage to vehicles is very inconsistent across the board.
Bro I’ve straight up deleted a warthog with my assault rifle on several occasions every time I get hit by a rocket it kills me, my passenger, my gunner, and my cousin twice removed, the vehicles shouldn’t be a free triple kill. I do think the damage needs fixed I agree with you on that.
Also while we are here can we mention the speed acceleration on the Hog is too much! It shoots off like a bat out of hell and it also has no feeling of heaviness and weight. It’s like a little fairy dust go kart driving around and feels completely off from the physics established in the original trilogy.
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> > I disagree to some degree. Just today I hit a hog with 2 rockets and only killed the driver without it exploding. I also stuck a hog with 2 sticky grenades, and 3 bursts with the Ravager to only kill the driver. It feels that the damage to vehicles is very inconsistent across the board.
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> Someone shot me with the Ravager earlier and in one shot took off my rear bumper, and my rear left wheel. It was a shot to the back though. I’ve destroyed a warthog myself with a launcher by AoE with one shot and a direct hit with another so I just don’t know how it’s possible that you are hitting a hog with two rockets, and not destroying it outright.
The only logical explanation I could see is the hog you destroyed with the AoE was already damaged where the one I shot was brand new. Regardless, it shouldn’t take more than 2 rockets to blow it up. It feels as if every gun does it’s own set of damage to vehicles with the outcome being random at times.
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> > I disagree to some degree. Just today I hit a hog with 2 rockets and only killed the driver without it exploding. I also stuck a hog with 2 sticky grenades, and 3 bursts with the Ravager to only kill the driver. It feels that the damage to vehicles is very inconsistent across the board.
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> Bro I’ve straight up deleted a warthog with my assault rifle on several occasions every time I get hit by a rocket it kills me, my passenger, my gunner, and my cousin twice removed, the vehicles shouldn’t be a free triple kill. I do think the damage needs fixed I agree with you on that.
It seems that 343 wanted the vehicles to have different damage points on each (banshees wings, wraiths back plate etc). The problem is this makes it incredibly inconsistent when it comes to destroying vehicles. Maybe I hit a low damage point on the hog; regardless it shouldn’t take more than 2 in any circumstance.
I completely agree with this, the vehicles are way too weak when it comes to health. I really dont like the way the warhog feels either. Its way too floaty and light feeling. So many people are having problems driving it too.
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> > > I disagree to some degree. Just today I hit a hog with 2 rockets and only killed the driver without it exploding. I also stuck a hog with 2 sticky grenades, and 3 bursts with the Ravager to only kill the driver. It feels that the damage to vehicles is very inconsistent across the board.
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> > Someone shot me with the Ravager earlier and in one shot took off my rear bumper, and my rear left wheel. It was a shot to the back though. I’ve destroyed a warthog myself with a launcher by AoE with one shot and a direct hit with another so I just don’t know how it’s possible that you are hitting a hog with two rockets, and not destroying it outright.
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> The only logical explanation I could see is the hog you destroyed with the AoE was already damaged where the one I shot was brand new. Regardless, it shouldn’t take more than 2 rockets to blow it up. It feels as if every gun does it’s own set of damage to vehicles with the outcome being random at times.
I gotta be honest with you I think you missed because vehicles are like paper in this game. A single ravager shot tears wheels off my vehicle I highly highly doubt you shot a warthog twice with a direct rocket, and it was fine I’m sorry but I’m just being honest don’t see that as a problem ima try to test it later though.
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> > > > I disagree to some degree. Just today I hit a hog with 2 rockets and only killed the driver without it exploding. I also stuck a hog with 2 sticky grenades, and 3 bursts with the Ravager to only kill the driver. It feels that the damage to vehicles is very inconsistent across the board.
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> > > Someone shot me with the Ravager earlier and in one shot took off my rear bumper, and my rear left wheel. It was a shot to the back though. I’ve destroyed a warthog myself with a launcher by AoE with one shot and a direct hit with another so I just don’t know how it’s possible that you are hitting a hog with two rockets, and not destroying it outright.
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> > The only logical explanation I could see is the hog you destroyed with the AoE was already damaged where the one I shot was brand new. Regardless, it shouldn’t take more than 2 rockets to blow it up. It feels as if every gun does it’s own set of damage to vehicles with the outcome being random at times.
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> I gotta be honest with you I think you missed because vehicles are like paper in this game. A single ravager shot tears wheels off my vehicle I highly highly doubt you shot a warthog twice with a direct rocket, and it was fine I’m sorry but I’m just being honest don’t see that as a problem ima try to test it later though.
Nah, definitely hit with both. Like I said, inconsistent damage across all weapons on vehicles. Feel free to test it.
Yes agree, banshee is made of paper. Really takes away from using it, especially when you’re up against 12 people they just get shredded.
Vehicles should not be able to push the flag around in CTF its way too OP especially with the ghost in Behemoth