In the Halo Forerunner novels, the Precursors are said to have created all life in the galaxy and they also created/are the Flood. The Forerunners did DEFEAT them, but they didn’t wipe them out. As far as we know they left out galaxy, but they are still alive. In the last days of the Forerunner-Flood war, The Gravemind said that eventually the flood would return to test humanity. Now even though the flood has been encountered in previous Halo games, that was by accident. The Precursors could be this new threat that has been hinted at.
That would be very cool to see yet another new enemy faction. Maybe even weirder and more technologically advanced weapons and equipment too.
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> That would be very cool to see yet another new enemy faction. Maybe even weirder and more technologically advanced weapons and equipment too.
They created all life, yea they have way better tech.
Precursors would hardly even have different kinds of weapons and equipment if they are so technologically advanced. They’d probably have one simple thing that did everything, from creating shields, transmuting matter, creating life, and insta-killing people.
I think you’re right that we’ll eventually see the Precursors, but not in Halo 5. Too much is going on at the moment* (I think, anyway). Maybe Halo 6? (after one or two of the current enemies have been dealt with)
*Flood, Forerunners, Covenant remnant, New Colonial Alliance/Insurrectionists, not to mention the evil-ish ONI and the weird metallic Eagle.
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> Precursors would hardly even have different kinds of weapons and equipment if they are so technologically advanced. They’d probably have one simple thing that did everything, from creating shields, transmuting matter, creating life, and insta-killing people.
Take into consideration the fact that the Forerunners bombed them back to stone age so who knows? Maybe they’re building their society back up and now they have tech that is on par with Forerunner tech? They can’t be introduced as a new race in game with their old tech because they would be extremely overpowered.
I never want to see the Precursors. Ever. Don’t get me wrong, I do. But I really don’t. Let me explain.
I’d love to see their Star Roads, their Unbending Filaments, or their Orbital Arches. But the Precursors themselves should be just as mysterious to us as they were to the Ancient Humans and Forerunners.
The Precursors are ancient beyond knowing. Their structures were intriguingly described in the Bear novels as unknowable, vast, system-spanning creations. Even the Forerunners, at the height of their culture, science, and power, couldn’t begin to understand the Precursors. They were the stuff of Legend, made tangible only because of their indestructible leftovers. Well, almost indestructible.
The Precursors were, by most all accounts, truly alien. Transsentient. So alien that they didn’t even fight back when the Forerunners allegedly rose up to destroy them. That is beyond most human comprehension. They thought on a galactic sale, and time meant something entirely different to them.
So, to sum up in 2 brief-ish points:
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the Precursors as so far described are not a fighting enemy. Putting weapons in their hands just cheapens the totally cool and totally mysterious image they have. These are god-like creatures, why would they play at water pistols with Humans?
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I just don’t trust anyone to bring them to life. There are maybe a handful of sci-fi writers alive or dead that I’d like to see have a go at the Precursors as a culture, a civilization. Whatever they come up with, I don’t see it translating well at all into characters in a video game.
If anything should remain a perpetual mystery in the Halo Universe, it should be the Precursors. And if they are revealed, it shouldn’t be cheapened by giving them Grunt or Elite analogues.
I feel like the Precursors will be involved in the future Halo games (possibly teased at the end of Halo 5?) but they won’t be an enemy which would have ground troops or anything like that. If they do show up, it would probably be only one or at the very least the remnants of their technology, and they would be powerful enough to take on the Forerunners, Humans and their allies, along with the Storm Covenant.
I think it would be cool if the Didact wanted to compose Earth not just for revenge, but to create a new army to fight against his old enemies (the Flood or the Precursors). It makes little sense for him to hold a grudge that was tens of thousands of years old, and even if he did succeed in composing humanity, he would have a huge army to do nothing with, except use it to restore Forerunner dominion over the galaxy.
If I am wrong about something or missing any facts, please let me know.
The precursor are sorta the flood… soooooo we already have?
I don’t think that such an advanced race could be presented as enemies in the series. Maybe if someone found the remains of their technology and used it. Maybe.
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> The precursor are sorta the flood… soooooo we already have?
You are partially right. The Flood were originally the decayed mutated remains of precursors, and they evolved over time just like any other species. Since the flood and precursors are connected, the flood can apparently share memories with them. No one knows what an actual Precursor looks like.
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> I never want to see the Precursors. Ever. Don’t get me wrong, I do. But I really don’t. Let me explain.
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> I’d love to see their Star Roads, their Unbending Filaments, or their Orbital Arches. But the Precursors themselves should be just as mysterious to us as they were to the Ancient Humans and Forerunners.
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> The Precursors are ancient beyond knowing. Their structures were intriguingly described in the Bear novels as unknowable, vast, system-spanning creations. Even the Forerunners, at the height of their culture, science, and power, couldn’t begin to understand the Precursors. They were the stuff of Legend, made tangible only because of their indestructible leftovers. Well, almost indestructible.
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> The Precursors were, by most all accounts, truly alien. Transsentient. So alien that they didn’t even fight back when the Forerunners allegedly rose up to destroy them. That is beyond most human comprehension. They thought on a galactic sale, and time meant something entirely different to them.
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> So, to sum up in 2 brief-ish points:
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> 1) the Precursors as so far described are not a fighting enemy. Putting weapons in their hands just cheapens the totally cool and totally mysterious image they have. These are god-like creatures, why would they play at water pistols with Humans?
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> 2) I just don’t trust anyone to bring them to life. There are maybe a handful of sci-fi writers alive or dead that I’d like to see have a go at the Precursors as a culture, a civilization. Whatever they come up with, I don’t see it translating well at all into characters in a video game.
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> If anything should remain a perpetual mystery in the Halo Universe, it should be the Precursors. And if they are revealed, it shouldn’t be cheapened by giving them Grunt or Elite analogues.
I agree with you to a point, but I think they hint in the last Forerunner novel that the Precursors will return to test humanity to see if they are ready to wield the Mantle of Responsibility, since the Forerunners initially took it for themselves essentially.
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> > The precursor are sorta the flood… soooooo we already have?
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> You are partially right. The Flood were originally the decayed mutated remains of precursors, and they evolved over time just like any other species. Since the flood and precursors are connected, the flood can apparently share memories with them. No one knows what an actual Precursor looks like.
I thought in the first book the precursor at the end morphed into a gravemind meaning they are one in the same
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> > I never want to see the Precursors. Ever. Don’t get me wrong, I do. But I really don’t. Let me explain.
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> > I’d love to see their Star Roads, their Unbending Filaments, or their Orbital Arches. But the Precursors themselves should be just as mysterious to us as they were to the Ancient Humans and Forerunners.
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> > The Precursors are ancient beyond knowing. Their structures were intriguingly described in the Bear novels as unknowable, vast, system-spanning creations. Even the Forerunners, at the height of their culture, science, and power, couldn’t begin to understand the Precursors. They were the stuff of Legend, made tangible only because of their indestructible leftovers. Well, almost indestructible.
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> > The Precursors were, by most all accounts, truly alien. Transsentient. So alien that they didn’t even fight back when the Forerunners allegedly rose up to destroy them. That is beyond most human comprehension. They thought on a galactic sale, and time meant something entirely different to them.
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> > So, to sum up in 2 brief-ish points:
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> > 1) the Precursors as so far described are not a fighting enemy. Putting weapons in their hands just cheapens the totally cool and totally mysterious image they have. These are god-like creatures, why would they play at water pistols with Humans?
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> > 2) I just don’t trust anyone to bring them to life. There are maybe a handful of sci-fi writers alive or dead that I’d like to see have a go at the Precursors as a culture, a civilization. Whatever they come up with, I don’t see it translating well at all into characters in a video game.
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> > If anything should remain a perpetual mystery in the Halo Universe, it should be the Precursors. And if they are revealed, it shouldn’t be cheapened by giving them Grunt or Elite analogues.
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> I agree with you to a point, but I think they hint in the last Forerunner novel that the Precursors will return to test humanity to see if they are ready to wield the Mantle of Responsibility, since the Forerunners initially took it for themselves essentially.
Isnt that mantle the flood, and the flood/precursors haven’t tested humanity yet?
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> > > The precursor are sorta the flood… soooooo we already have?
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> > You are partially right. The Flood were originally the decayed mutated remains of precursors, and they evolved over time just like any other species. Since the flood and precursors are connected, the flood can apparently share memories with them. No one knows what an actual Precursor looks like.
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> I thought in the first book the precursor at the end morphed into a gravemind meaning they are one in the same
No the Primordial “the precursor you are referring to” is a gravemind. It always was a gravemind. Like I said, the Flood are the result of decayed Precursor remains that were mutated and introduced to a host.
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> > > I never want to see the Precursors. Ever. Don’t get me wrong, I do. But I really don’t. Let me explain.
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> > > I’d love to see their Star Roads, their Unbending Filaments, or their Orbital Arches. But the Precursors themselves should be just as mysterious to us as they were to the Ancient Humans and Forerunners.
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> > > The Precursors are ancient beyond knowing. Their structures were intriguingly described in the Bear novels as unknowable, vast, system-spanning creations. Even the Forerunners, at the height of their culture, science, and power, couldn’t begin to understand the Precursors. They were the stuff of Legend, made tangible only because of their indestructible leftovers. Well, almost indestructible.
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> > > The Precursors were, by most all accounts, truly alien. Transsentient. So alien that they didn’t even fight back when the Forerunners allegedly rose up to destroy them. That is beyond most human comprehension. They thought on a galactic sale, and time meant something entirely different to them.
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> > > So, to sum up in 2 brief-ish points:
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> > > 1) the Precursors as so far described are not a fighting enemy. Putting weapons in their hands just cheapens the totally cool and totally mysterious image they have. These are god-like creatures, why would they play at water pistols with Humans?
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> > > 2) I just don’t trust anyone to bring them to life. There are maybe a handful of sci-fi writers alive or dead that I’d like to see have a go at the Precursors as a culture, a civilization. Whatever they come up with, I don’t see it translating well at all into characters in a video game.
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> > > If anything should remain a perpetual mystery in the Halo Universe, it should be the Precursors. And if they are revealed, it shouldn’t be cheapened by giving them Grunt or Elite analogues.
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> > I agree with you to a point, but I think they hint in the last Forerunner novel that the Precursors will return to test humanity to see if they are ready to wield the Mantle of Responsibility, since the Forerunners initially took it for themselves essentially.
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> Isnt that mantle the flood, and the flood/precursors haven’t tested humanity yet?
No the flood isn’t the mantle, and yes the Precursors haven’t test humanity yet. The only encounters we’ve had with the flood were from accidental outbreaks, not full on invasions.
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> > > > I never want to see the Precursors. Ever. Don’t get me wrong, I do. But I really don’t. Let me explain.
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> > > > I’d love to see their Star Roads, their Unbending Filaments, or their Orbital Arches. But the Precursors themselves should be just as mysterious to us as they were to the Ancient Humans and Forerunners.
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> > > > The Precursors are ancient beyond knowing. Their structures were intriguingly described in the Bear novels as unknowable, vast, system-spanning creations. Even the Forerunners, at the height of their culture, science, and power, couldn’t begin to understand the Precursors. They were the stuff of Legend, made tangible only because of their indestructible leftovers. Well, almost indestructible.
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> > > > The Precursors were, by most all accounts, truly alien. Transsentient. So alien that they didn’t even fight back when the Forerunners allegedly rose up to destroy them. That is beyond most human comprehension. They thought on a galactic sale, and time meant something entirely different to them.
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> > > > So, to sum up in 2 brief-ish points:
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> > > > 1) the Precursors as so far described are not a fighting enemy. Putting weapons in their hands just cheapens the totally cool and totally mysterious image they have. These are god-like creatures, why would they play at water pistols with Humans?
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> > > > 2) I just don’t trust anyone to bring them to life. There are maybe a handful of sci-fi writers alive or dead that I’d like to see have a go at the Precursors as a culture, a civilization. Whatever they come up with, I don’t see it translating well at all into characters in a video game.
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> > > > If anything should remain a perpetual mystery in the Halo Universe, it should be the Precursors. And if they are revealed, it shouldn’t be cheapened by giving them Grunt or Elite analogues.
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> > > I agree with you to a point, but I think they hint in the last Forerunner novel that the Precursors will return to test humanity to see if they are ready to wield the Mantle of Responsibility, since the Forerunners initially took it for themselves essentially.
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> > Isnt that mantle the flood, and the flood/precursors haven’t tested humanity yet?
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> No the flood isn’t the mantle, and yes the Precursors haven’t test humanity yet. The only encounters we’ve had with the flood were from accidental outbreaks, not full on invasions.
Ah ok, thanks.
I doubt it, the Precursors are way too high in tech to be dealt with. They’re too powerful to be done as an enemy in Halo.
I agree with you.
I dont think they could be brought back. The last known precursors died to help create the flood. Like many others have stated, these creatures were godlike, with technology way way way more advanced than that of the forerunners. I do, however, would like to see the flood return.