Some Spoilers ahead for anyone who hasn’t read the Forerunner books…
So let me get this straight, Forerunners destroyed the Precursors way back when and there is no recording of this event? When the Didact spoke with the Timeless One, this was said: “I am the last of those your kind rose up against and ruthlessly destroyed.” Why does everyone act so surprised when they first discover the Timeless One? You’d think the Forerunners would have some knowledge of what a Precursor is. The fact that the Forerunners could even destroy the Precursors in the first place blows my mind.
I also don’t understand how the Forerunners know about the Mantle. Wasn’t that a Precursor thing? So if Forerunners took the idea of the Mantle from them, wouldn’t they’ve known more about Precursors?
Just before the Didact kills the Timeless One, he’s told that the TO is the last Precursor. Is it possible that the Precursors can evolve sort of like the Forerunners? Maybe after evolving, the Precursors no longer come before the Forerunners because maybe they’ve turned into a whole other species. Possibly the species found in the 5th Terminal, I believe, of the Halo CE Anniversary? Just a thought. Let me know what you think, or correct me if I’m wrong, I want to be able to sleep at night…
The Covenant had information on the Forerunner but their interpretation of who they were and what happened to them was completely wrong. All because they were doing a terrible job of translating Forerunner script, reading words upside down and like. Over such ridiculously large periods of time, the events of the past become obscured and hard to piece together. The same could be said for the Forerunner’s interpretation of the Precursors.
> The Covenant had information on the Forerunner but their interpretation of who they were and what happened to them was completely wrong. All because they were doing a terrible job of translating Forerunner script, reading words upside down and like. Over such ridiculously large periods of time, the events of the past become obscured and hard to piece together. The same could be said for the Forerunner’s interpretation of the Precursors.
Indeed. Especially since it was millions of years for the Forerunners in-comparison with the 100,000 years for the Covenant.
Yeah but when you consider how advanced the Forerunners aren’t you’d still think they would know something… just doesn’t make sense.
If I remember the Forerunner books correctly, there were many changes to the Domain that the Forerunner perceived as holy or sacred and didn’t investigate any further. It could be possible that these small changes could have built up over the generations and hidden the Precursor from the Forerunner memory.
Didn’t someone (maybe Guilty Spark/Chakas or Bornstellar) say every memory can be accessed through the Domain though?
We know nothing of the events of the “precursor war” and from what the words the primordial was leaving out other races might have been involved.
America as of this year is 230 +/- years old depending on when you think american started. Do you seriously think we remember every little bit of history from and before that time no matter how significant? that is only 200 years ago so i don’t understand why anybody would logically think the forerunners would remember events that presumably happened 50,000 years prior if not longer.
> Do you seriously think we remember every little bit of history from and before that time no matter how significant?
I know who was fighting in the war, and I know it was only 200 years ago, but I still think the Domain would aid the Forerunners in remembering something about the Forerunner/Precursor War. I’m sure the Didact wanted answers after speaking with the Primordial and would’ve most likely used the Domain for information. Something as important as who your enemy was (or what they look like) should be remembered, especially by the Domain. After all, if I remember correctly, It stores memories from others from the past.
There have been dozens of engagements since our founding not just the wars that lead up to it and i am positive i know of a few engagements most people aren’t aware of because it there aren’t popular. Do you know when the domain was formed? That is no different then saying books should help us remember events, though you would have to wait for the invention of writing then the book in order to re-tell the stories which would have been lost.
The Domain didn’t even have information on humans so i see no reason why there would be any knowledge of precursors.
“Forerunner scholars theorized that the dreams of early Forerunners accessed the “ground” that the Domain is built upon.” -Halopedia.org.
Whether or not this quote above is true, obviously accounts from early Forerunners could be accessed through the Domain. If you read some of the top comments from here, other people seem to believe that the Domain is almost like a telepathic library of information. Some people even think that everyone has access to the Domain, including me. I believe the Admiral who’s “haunting” Chakas in Primordium proves this. So it might be possible that the Domain is as old or maybe even older than the Precursors, but I doubt that last one… unless there is something older than the Precursors…
Oh, and where does it say the Domain knew nothing of Humans?
I am aware of what we think the domain is and i don’t need you to re-tell me information i already know.
This is what i am talking about what does “early” mean? Pre-history,early history, space age era, space flight. “Early” doesn’t help with understanding when they started using the domain.
Only forerunners had access to the domain and in primordium chakas expresses doubt that it exists in this part of the universe anymore.
In cryptum when the didact first started fighting the humans he noted how there were no threads about them in the domain so he wouldn’t be able to know how they thought or would react. I just got a new laptop so i can’t give you the direct quote from the book in pdf form.
Did you skip the part where I said Chakas was being contacted by an Admiral from the past? If that doesn’t clearly show that Humans had access then I don’t know what will. In Primordium, Chakas admitted several times that he was confused and didn’t know what was real anymore. I forget the girls name, but it was the one Chakas was traveling with; she too had a “spirit” communicating with her.
Read this, and I apologize if you’re already aware of it. I’m not from a world where other people know what I already know, sorry.
Description of a Gravemind:
“When a creature is assimilated into the Flood, its knowledge is transferred directly to the Gravemind, and the remainder of its mind is destroyed. In addition, it appears each Gravemind also retains the memories and knowledge of previous Graveminds. This has made the Gravemind virtually omniscient, and ensures that should the Gravemind be destroyed, its consciousness will never truly die as long as some flood forms are left. In an archived conversation with the Forerunner AI known as 05-032 Mendicant Bias, he compared himself to the AI, describing it as “a single intelligence inhabiting multiple instances” and calling himself “a compound [intelligence] consisting of a thousand billion coordinated minds inhabiting as many bodies as circumstances require”. While it is not known how the Gravemind is able to communicate with subordinate Flood forms across the galaxy, his self-comparison to a computer network implies that similar techniques may be used, with each Flood form possibly acting as a networking node and redistributing the Gravemind’s commands to other forms. It is widely believed that the Gravemind uses some form of telepathy to command its disparate Flood components.” -halo.wikia
Sounds a lot like some sort of Domain huh?
> Did you skip the part where I said Chakas was being contacted by an Admiral from the past? If that doesn’t clearly show that Humans had access then I don’t know what will. In Primordium, Chakas admitted several times that he was confused and didn’t know what was real anymore. I forget the girls name, but it was the one Chakas was traveling with; she too had a “spirit” communicating with her.
That has zero connection to the Domain. Chakas was carrying the personality imprint of Forthencho implanted into him by the Librarian. He was not accessing the Domain. In fact at the time of the story no Forerunner was accessing the Domain because it had been sabotaged. It’s also stated that the Domain would constantly change information at will which no one questioned. This could be the reason why for thousands of years or more the Forerunner forgot the truth and continued to believe they were the inheritors of the Mantle when in fact they were not.
As I would like to point out again.
We, and I even think the forerunners, don’t really know what the Domain really is.
They started to use it someday…
It can be everything from a Telepathic connection their advanced brains perform with each other and store all information spread across all Forerunners, a ancient Machine placed in Slip-space by the Precursors to keep knowledge accessible and overseen by a AI, or even a Localized database like today’s Wikipedia where every member can access and edit historical events when done properly and clearing all the evidence.
It is something even they don’t have real control about, when they say the Domain started to change information on its own.
How do the Flood have a Domain type thing then? If the Flood are made from or are Precursors, then the Domain between Forerunners and Precursors are probably the same.
> How do the Flood have a Domain type thing then? If the Flood are made from or are Precursors, then the Domain between Forerunners and Precursors are probably the same.
The Flood basically share their knowledge across all Floor forms.
So they have one Gravemind or a compound mind ( in the earlier stages of the Infection ) and assimilate memories etc.
Everything they gather is shared across all living spore cells, so as long as one cell survives, it can spread the infection to the point where a Proto-Gravemind is constructed and all Information will be again available to all available Flood forms in its range.
In short.
They are all linked together and share the knowledge.
As long as you don’t kill the last cell, they will keep knowing everything.
Alright, well thanks. I guess I’ll find out more in a few months.
> How do the Flood have a Domain type thing then? If the Flood are made from or are Precursors, then the Domain between Forerunners and Precursors are probably the same.
genetic memory isn’t the domain…
I still feel like the durances have a lot to do with the Domain, and why the information always changes.
> I still feel like the durances have a lot to do with the Domain, and why the information always changes.
I do in part also.