Power resource and Upgrades Issues

Games Halo Wars Series
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I loved Halo Wars 1 and I’m glad that they are making a sequel. I was pretty good at Halo Wars, I wasn’t amazing but I won more than I lost. I’ve been playing the beta and three problems for me are the new power resource which adds unnecessary micro management to the game.The second problem is the upgrade system, its overcomplicated, why not just upgrade units you’ll use rather than the whole type of unit.I just want to upgrade units I’m going to use, build and army with said units and have awesome battles. Thirdly is the switch from reactors being your tech level to the base being the tech level.

I’ll talk about my problems with the new power resource first. I don’t like the introduction of power as a resource. I feel forced to get a second base because one base can’t pump out enough resources to do squat. In Halo Wars you could do well with just one base, not amazing, but you could do well. In the beta, if you don’t get a second base early on, you’ll lose. You’ll fall behind in your upgrades and building an army and before you know it your enemies are rolling on you with an army of scorpions and banshees. In my opinion the power resource adds unnecessary micro management to the game. Rather than focusing on upgrading a few units, building a mixed army and having awesome battles, I’m managing my base to try and maximise gaining both resources. To me it just feels like an unnecessary addition that hinders the flow of the game rather than add to it.

My other problem is with the upgrades. Now right off the bat you have to choose where your going to focus your upgrades: barracks, garage or airpad. Because rather than upgrading individual units and gain a health and damage boost with each upgrade like in halo wars 1, you now upgrade the entire unit type. To me this makes it more of a pain to build a mixed army like infantry and air units rather than building an army of just vehicle units from the garage. Because for the mixed army of infantry and air units to be fully effective, you’ll need to upgrade both the barracks and airpad, and then upgrade the individual units your using. Unlike in Halo wars where you just upgraded the units you wanted to use, gaining health, damage and an ability with each upgrade. Adding these barracks, garage and airpad upgrades that upgrade all units of that type is just complicating the upgrade system. Also a good thing about Halo Wars 1, when you upgraded a unit, there was a noticeable change to the way the unit looked (more armour, extra gun, a medic, etc). When I upgraded units in the beta, I really didn’t feel like there a was an improvement to the units, whether that be individual unit upgrades or unit type upgrades except with the Spartan laser and marine rocket launcher. You have to upgrade the base, so you can upgrade the unit building and then upgrade the unit, its just too much.

My last problem is with the reactors no longer being your tech level. I suppose its a failsafe against being rushed but I don’t think that was your intention. I think you changed the reactor from being responsible for tech level so you could implement the unnecessary power resource.

Overall I feel like you’ve changed a good system that worked and wasn’t complicated to a new system that’s unnecessarily complicated just for the sake of changing things or trying to “improve” upon the original. Fellow gamers, let me know if you agree or disagree with what I’ve raised and help make this the best Halo Wars it can be.

Thanks

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Honestly I love the added complexity because it creates a higher skill gap and introduces less rush-centric early game.

I have gone undefeated the past almost 10 games because of me and my teammates early pressure via territory expansion and careful resource management

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I felt a little disappointed with the lack of upgrades I feel all units should have at LEAST 1 tier of upgrades and I really hope the other Leaders have a different unit selection because I wasn’t impressed however I am a massive halo geek and I would like to thank you for all your hard work in making halowars 2 I am really grateful but with the stuff I heard in the build up about bigger and better I’m far from impressed and still prefer the original at the moment! But again thank you so so much for cracking on with halowars 2 I just hope there is more diversity, upgrades and population. Thank you. EazyMoore88

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> Honestly I love the added complexity because it creates a higher skill gap and introduces less rush-centric early game.
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> I have gone undefeated the past almost 10 games because of me and my teammates early pressure via territory expansion and careful resource management

i dont think it is a bad system in of itself, but it has changed the core gameplay so much (along with changes to factions, leaders, and upgrade system) that the game plays nothing like the first halo wars. its the same problem with 343’s halo (4 and 5), they have designed their systems well but its just so far from the gameplay that made people love halo that it is a completely different game with the halo name.

I wouldnt have a problem with 343’s games if they were a different ip, but they dont play or even feel like classic halo games. Halo Wars 2 is following the same trend.

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> > Honestly I love the added complexity because it creates a higher skill gap and introduces less rush-centric early game.
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> > I have gone undefeated the past almost 10 games because of me and my teammates early pressure via territory expansion and careful resource management
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> i dont think it is a bad system in of itself, but it has changed the core gameplay so much (along with changes to factions, leaders, and upgrade system) that the game plays nothing like the first halo wars. its the same problem with 343’s halo (4 and 5), they have designed their systems well but its just so far from the gameplay that made people love halo that it is a completely different game with the halo name.
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> I wouldnt have a problem with 343’s games if they were a different ip, but they dont play or even feel like classic halo games. Halo Wars 2 is following the same trend.

It’s an upgrade IMO. The first halo wars was too simple of an economy for an actual RTS. At least now you have to actually make a conscious decision on what resource you want to take a building slot up with, instead of just spamming supply pads.

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Console RTS struggles enough already. Why go and add something that’s makes it a bit more complicated. Its only going to push people away on console.

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> Console RTS struggles enough already. Why go and add something that’s makes it a bit more complicated. Its only going to push people away on console.

If you want to go back to mindless hog/tank/banshee/hawk spam go play Halo Wars again.

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Dude that is why every map has like 5 energy nodes that help you a -Yoink- ton. they are free.

Not to mention every map has a ton of mini bases which can further increase your resources.

I’m pretty much never had a problem with it. Pretty easy IMO. Who ever holds the power nodes on the map and has map control generally wins.