[POTENTIAL SPOILERS] So Mega Bloks just showed a brute with Locke’s helmet worn as armor on his shoulder. It points to Locke being killed. What are your thoughts? As much as I was disappointed with H5’s story, I’m concerned that 343 is rushing to undo everything from H5.
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> [POTENTIAL SPOILERS] So Mega Bloks just showed a brute with Locke’s helmet worn as armor on his shoulder. It points to Locke being killed. What are your thoughts? As much as I was disappointed with H5’s story, I’m concerned that 343 is rushing to undo everything from H5.
First off lazy link for those that are interested. Video by HaloFollower.
Secondly, I don’t necessarily think it is too big an issue if they killed him. It depends on how and when. I think the only way 343 Industries can redeem themselves is by killing off those that were an issue in Halo 5: Guardians. I think if it is done right, meaning he dies an honorable death worthy of a Spartan, I see no problem with it. Do note the trailer from E3. The pilot says “We lost everything.” This could include any and all Spartans on that ring.
We will have to wait and find out, won’t we?
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> > [POTENTIAL SPOILERS] So Mega Bloks just showed a brute with Locke’s helmet worn as armor on his shoulder. It points to Locke being killed. What are your thoughts? As much as I was disappointed with H5’s story, I’m concerned that 343 is rushing to undo everything from H5.
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> First off lazy link for those that are interested. Video by HaloFollower.
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> Secondly, I don’t necessarily think it is too big an issue if they killed him. It depends on how and when. I think the only way 343 Industries can redeem themselves is by killing off those that were an issue in Halo 5: Guardians. I think if it is done right, meaning he dies an honorable death worthy of a Spartan, I see no problem with it. Do note the trailer from E3. The pilot says “We lost everything.” This could include any and all Spartans on that ring.
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> We will have to wait and find out, won’t we?
I agree it’s more to do about how they kill him. What I’m concerned with is that they’re trying to push the Banished as the next big threat. I just don’t see how the Banished can possibly be presented as a greater threat to the galaxy than Cortana+the created in a satisfying manner. I love the idea of a spiritual reboot, but I want the Created arch to be resolved in a satisfying manner and I guess I’m having a hard time seeing how both can be well-executed. We’ll certainly have to wait and see.
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> > > [POTENTIAL SPOILERS] So Mega Bloks just showed a brute with Locke’s helmet worn as armor on his shoulder. It points to Locke being killed. What are your thoughts? As much as I was disappointed with H5’s story, I’m concerned that 343 is rushing to undo everything from H5.
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> > First off lazy link for those that are interested. Video by HaloFollower.
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> > Secondly, I don’t necessarily think it is too big an issue if they killed him. It depends on how and when. I think the only way 343 Industries can redeem themselves is by killing off those that were an issue in Halo 5: Guardians. I think if it is done right, meaning he dies an honorable death worthy of a Spartan, I see no problem with it. Do note the trailer from E3. The pilot says “We lost everything.” This could include any and all Spartans on that ring.
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> > We will have to wait and find out, won’t we?
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> I agree it’s more to do about how they kill him. What I’m concerned with is that they’re trying to push the Banished as the next big threat. I just don’t see how the Banished can possibly be presented as a greater threat to the galaxy than Cortana+the created in a satisfying manner. I love the idea of a spiritual reboot, but I want the Created arch to be resolved in a satisfying manner and I guess I’m having a hard time seeing how both can be well-executed. We’ll certainly have to wait and see.
Cortana may not be the “Main Antagonist” but she may be ruling the Main Antagonist. As in, she is controlling The Banished to do her will. Don’t expect to kill Cortana in Halo Infinite anyway. May have to wait until Halo 7.
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> > > > [POTENTIAL SPOILERS] So Mega Bloks just showed a brute with Locke’s helmet worn as armor on his shoulder. It points to Locke being killed. What are your thoughts? As much as I was disappointed with H5’s story, I’m concerned that 343 is rushing to undo everything from H5.
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> > > First off lazy link for those that are interested. Video by HaloFollower.
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> > > Secondly, I don’t necessarily think it is too big an issue if they killed him. It depends on how and when. I think the only way 343 Industries can redeem themselves is by killing off those that were an issue in Halo 5: Guardians. I think if it is done right, meaning he dies an honorable death worthy of a Spartan, I see no problem with it. Do note the trailer from E3. The pilot says “We lost everything.” This could include any and all Spartans on that ring.
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> > > We will have to wait and find out, won’t we?
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> > I agree it’s more to do about how they kill him. What I’m concerned with is that they’re trying to push the Banished as the next big threat. I just don’t see how the Banished can possibly be presented as a greater threat to the galaxy than Cortana+the created in a satisfying manner. I love the idea of a spiritual reboot, but I want the Created arch to be resolved in a satisfying manner and I guess I’m having a hard time seeing how both can be well-executed. We’ll certainly have to wait and see.
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> Cortana may not be the “Main Antagonist” but she may be ruling the Main Antagonist. As in, she is controlling The Banished to do her will. Don’t expect to kill Cortana in Halo Infinite anyway. May have to wait until Halo 7.
I would be more accepting of this than the Banished as the big threat. I just can’t see Atriox bending his knee to anyone. It goes against his entire character. I could accept a rogue faction of the Banished siding with Cortana. But now we’re just speculating I suppose. I hope 343 can balance the Banished and Created in a a satisfying way and we’ll see.
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> [POTENTIAL SPOILERS] So Mega Bloks just showed a brute with Locke’s helmet worn as armor on his shoulder. It points to Locke being killed. What are your thoughts? As much as I was disappointed with H5’s story, I’m concerned that 343 is rushing to undo everything from H5.
Warns about “Potential Spoiler” in the text.
Proceed to spoil it in the title. 
Dude, change that yoink, pronto! 
EDIT: Thank you mate! 
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> > [POTENTIAL SPOILERS] So Mega Bloks just showed a brute with Locke’s helmet worn as armor on his shoulder. It points to Locke being killed. What are your thoughts? As much as I was disappointed with H5’s story, I’m concerned that 343 is rushing to undo everything from H5.
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> Warns about “Potential Spoiler” in the text.
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> Dude, change that yoink, pronto!
Touche, lol. Done.
I don’t think Locke dying (assuming that actually happens) would be a bad thing necessarily. It could be an “erase Halo 5” type deal, but it could also be a genuine attempt at doing something with this character. People say they “killed off potential” or what not- it’s a story, whoever has the pen has the unlimited potential. Locke dying has so much potential.
People have been pointing to Jul M’Dama’s death while exclaiming this would be a bad idea which is a very poor analysis of why M’Dama’s death was bad in the first place, that being that he (a) died in the most unsatisfying fight scene and (b) his plot influence and significance died with him (essentially nothing was done with his death). Point B to me is far more important; they could’ve shown the Covenant coming back with a vengeance, could’ve shown who takes the helm after and what the Covenant’s plans are or if they have shifted, etc. but they did none of that. After he died they did nothing with the Covenant except throw them in as shooting gallery targets. It has nothing to do with the fact that he died early in the game.
Plus people are thinking about this all wrong. The plan was always to have shown this during July, the Mega Construx were always going to have released after Summer. This is not a leak. What does this mean? It means that of course 343 knows that releasing a massive story spoiler would be a bad idea, and so therefore this is probably not a massive story spoiler. There could be something to do with Locke’s death or how his helmet was obtained but clearly the fact that Hyperius is wearing Locke’s helmet on his shoulder, or even that Locke may be dead, is not all there is to it.
Halofollower is overthinking again
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> Halofollower is overthinking again
I actually enjoy most of his videos, but damn me! The day he actually gets a speculation right, it’s the day the world ends! XD
Never change HF! Never do! <3
I think this is all a marketing strategy and is purposely done to generate some buzz about the game’s campaign and also to throw us off track, which I’m totally down with! Up until this point we’ve only had crumbs, so to get this bite size news is kind of exciting and I can’t wait to see some good theories on this.
So that happened,we got some potential major spoiler in a mega blocks figures and still no gameplay footage.
I can see only 1 way of redemption for this move,if they show some context for this in the upcoming Xbox event.
If not and we have to guess what happened till Infinite comes out,this was a stupid move imo.
Worth noting this tweet from ske7ch:
https://twitter.com/ske7ch/status/1278789206194581504
> While we unfortunately had toy leaks earlier this year, products appearing now are all expected and part of the road map. We wouldn’t intentionally spoil key game details so don’t read too much into anything. Not every collectible is a literal tie-in to the game.
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> So that happened,we got some potential major spoiler in a mega blocks figures and still no gameplay footage.
> I can see only 1 way of redemption for this move,if they show some context for this in the upcoming Xbox event.
> If not and we have to guess what happened till Infinite comes out,this was a stupid move imo.
Look, most probably the reason why those toys leaked is because MS had a deal with MB, but than due to Corona the roadmap changed. Meaning nothing we saw so far is that big of a deal in the grand scheme. The only thing that sucks is that trailers won’t be as surprising now as they would have been. Unless even those changed!
We’ll have to wait and see, in any case I’m really exited. Heck! Those leaks imho are actually helping to set up the hype!^^
Quickly killing off Locke (and the rest of Fireteam Osiris for that matter) is something I would be fine with. No need to dwell or make a huge deal out of it (i.e., rest of the game is fueled by revenge a la “this is for Spartan Locke/Fireteam Osiris”). I’d be more interested to see how they handle other aspects of the H5 story and where those fit in the game going forward. Osiris for me is a blip when you think about the bigger picture; they could leave as quick as they arrived and no one would care or think much about it.
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> Quickly killing off Locke (and the rest of Fireteam Osiris for that matter) is something I would be fine with. No need to dwell or make a huge deal out of it (i.e., rest of the game is fueled by revenge a la “this is for Spartan Locke/Fireteam Osiris”). I’d be more interested to see how they handle other aspects of the H5 story and where those fit in the game going forward. Osiris for me is a blip when you think about the bigger picture; they could leave as quick as they arrived and no one would care or think much about it.
This begs the question of why even bother killing him/them off in such a rushed manner if the sentiment is “who cares?” or “good riddance?” That’s not a solid narrative decision if your audience has an apathetic response to character deaths. I don’t see a reason for their deaths aside from thinly veiled attempts of ousting Osiris from the story rather than actually expand and develop their characters.
I’m not saying they have to be front-and-center of Infinite’s story, but fumbling on their introduction to then systematically off them in the next game seems cheap, rushed, and dumb.
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> > Quickly killing off Locke (and the rest of Fireteam Osiris for that matter) is something I would be fine with. No need to dwell or make a huge deal out of it (i.e., rest of the game is fueled by revenge a la “this is for Spartan Locke/Fireteam Osiris”). I’d be more interested to see how they handle other aspects of the H5 story and where those fit in the game going forward. Osiris for me is a blip when you think about the bigger picture; they could leave as quick as they arrived and no one would care or think much about it.
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> This begs the question of why even bother killing him/them off in such a rushed manner if the sentiment is “who cares?” or “good riddance?” That’s not a solid narrative decision if your audience has an apathetic response to character deaths. I don’t see a reason for their deaths aside from thinly veiled attempts of ousting Osiris from the story rather than actually expand and develop their characters.
> I’m not saying they have to be front-and-center of Infinite’s story, but fumbling on their introduction to then systematically off them in the next game seems cheap, rushed, and dumb.
To be clear, I don’t think there is anything they could do with him/them that would make me feel different from “good riddance” or apathetic. You’re right that it’s a lazy move to just quickly kill them off. Another way to think about it though is 343 recognizes people strongly detested the H5 campaign; best course of action might be to deal with Osiris like ripping off a band-aid. If they don’t want to kill them, just have them disappear off onto something else in the universe. I really do think we are beyond salvaging their value to the campaign by using Infinite to further explore and develop their characters. H5 campaign was bad to the point that there simply isn’t anything worth salvaging with them. Sorry if I come off as an extreme, ignorant nay-sayer here.
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> Another way to think about it though is 343 recognizes people strongly detested the H5 campaign; best course of action might be to deal with Osiris like ripping off a band-aid.
I think it would be a gross overreaction from 343i to approach the problem like this. Halo 5 has it’s problems, undoubtedly, but its issues are greatly overstated to the point that people seem to act that anything-and-everything regarding it must be destroyed, obliterated and never spoken about again.
Actually learning from the faults of Halo 5 is what 343i should take away, not a knee-jerk “oh s***, quickly remove anything even tangentially related to it!”
Just about every character got shafted in Halo 5 because the foundation (the story) was poorly constructed. Having that already be better constructed in Infinite could do many favors for the characters involved. Osiris are not so bereft of actual character that they cannot be salvaged; the story needs to better provide opportunities for them to shine.
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> > So that happened,we got some potential major spoiler in a mega blocks figures and still no gameplay footage.
> > I can see only 1 way of redemption for this move,if they show some context for this in the upcoming Xbox event.
> > If not and we have to guess what happened till Infinite comes out,this was a stupid move imo.
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> Look, most probably the reason why those toys leaked is because MS had a deal with MB, but than due to Corona the roadmap changed. Meaning nothing we saw so far is that big of a deal in the grand scheme. The only thing that sucks is that trailers won’t be as surprising now as they would have been. Unless even those changed!
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> We’ll have to wait and see, in any case I’m really exited. Heck! Those leaks imho are actually helping to set up the hype!^^
Yeah you could be right,if things were like they supposed to be we would already had E3 last month.
I like the banned and Atriox, I like the idea of being almost a covenent