I think I have figured out the best way to Nerf the combat salvage vulture problem without making it useless. I think the best way to fix this is to make the ability a population count instead of an actual unit count such as “8”. They could make the population around 30 or 25 population. This would reduce the amount of vultures to re spawn to only 4-3 while still allowing other troops to respawn such as hornets, warthogs, and tanks. This way combat salvage is still economically viable for all troops still but makes it not nearly as OP. I think its cool down time needs to be increased as well. I’m trying to be very careful about nerfing forge too hard but he is basically unstoppable late game, even before the 300% anvil round buff. Let me know what you guys think should be done to nerf combat salvage.
or just not let it be used on vultures
Or just shoot them down like a normal player…
Idk what the problem is here. Sounds like a valid strategy for a RTS if you ask me.
#NerfEverythingToBitterNothingnessForNoReason
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Fighting off 8 vultures will leave your army in really bad shape. Impossible to rebuild in the time those 8 vultures reach you again.
Combat salvage is 1000 supplies and you can get like 6000-7000 supplies back, immediately.
I’m not saying it is OP, but I’m not denying it isn’t either. I believe DT DarkPhoenix was also talking about a possible adjustment to it because it is too strong.
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> or just not let it be used on vultures
That’s true but I don’t want to completely strip it out, I think this would be a good compromise without taking abilities out of the game
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Bro your best CSR is onyx 1600, you don’t know what you’re talking about. You get 8 vultures back onto the playing field for only 1,000 supplies. If you don’t believe me I’ll gladly 1v1 you and show you how broken it is…
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> I’m not saying it is OP, but I’m not denying it isn’t either. I believe DT DarkPhoenix was also talking about a possible adjustment to it because it is too strong.
What did phoenix suggest they should change about it? If Phoenix says it should be nerfed you KNOW it should be haha
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> That’s true but I don’t want to completely strip it out, I think this would be a good compromise without taking abilities out of the game
Yeah I don’t like this either, it’s counter intuitive.
“You get 8 non infantry units back, but vultures don’t count!” it’s cheap and artificial.
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> What did phoenix suggest they should change about it? If Phoenix says it should be nerfed you KNOW it should be haha
I can’t remember exactly, however I like your suggestion better, to make it pop based instead of flat numbers.
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> I’m not saying it is OP, but I’m not denying it isn’t either. I believe DT DarkPhoenix was also talking about a possible adjustment to it because it is too strong.
I mean you’re not wrong I suppose. But it’s a high tier leader power for a reason… You can’t tell me Displacement/teleport or any other leader powers isnt like CombSalv.
A very small tweak if anything. But personally I dont see a problem with it.
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> I mean you’re not wrong I suppose. But it’s a high tier leader power for a reason… You can’t tell me Displacement/teleport or any other leader powers isnt like CombSalv.
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> A very small tweak if anything. But personally I dont see a problem with it.
Displacement and Combat salvage are both OP.
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> > #NerfEverythingToBitterNothingnessForNoReason
Thank you… for that…
Oh and by the way I don’t play ranked. So you’re really underestimating me. Just because I don’t see a point to playing ranked doesn’t mean im bad at the game. I’d happily beat you in a 1v1. Im better than a dumb waypoint stats generator shows… I also have 70% win ratio if you missed that… 
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So can Eradication or any other leader power.
Also. Stat shaming/calling is against the forum rules. Just a heads up…
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> > Bro your best CSR is onyx 1600, you don’t know what you’re talking about. You get 8 vultures back onto the playing field for only 1,000 supplies. If you don’t believe me I’ll gladly 1v1 you and show you how broken it is…
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> Thank you… for that…
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> Oh and by the way I don’t play ranked. So you’re really underestimating me. Just because I don’t see a point to playing ranked doesn’t mean im bad at the game. I’d happily beat you in a 1v1. Im better than a dumb waypoint stats generator shows… I also have 70% win ratio if you missed that…
You do know I was #1 player in 1v1 this season right? haha
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> So can Eradication or any other leader power. I just think that you think it is OP because you most likely lost to someone who has used it and now you’re here playing the salty card. Just a guess.
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> Also. Stat shaming/calling is against the forum rules. Just a heads up…
I wasn’t “shaming” you? I was stating you havent been in the top tier of ranked and haven’t seen first hand the affects of combat salvage. That’s all
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> > > Bro your best CSR is onyx 1600, you don’t know what you’re talking about. You get 8 vultures back onto the playing field for only 1,000 supplies. If you don’t believe me I’ll gladly 1v1 you and show you how broken it is…
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> You do know I was #1 player in 1v1 this season right? haha
And again. Ranked doesn’t mean jack yoink, especially this season… Its a terrible ranking system. And yeah, I’m not ranked (a lot of people aren’t), you’ve never played me (a lot of people haven’t, a lot of people have), so you cant judge how good or bad I am at the game.
Plenty of people can be Champ #1. You’re not the first, nor will you be the last. Once you reach it once it’s stays on your waypoint stats. Big whoop…
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> > > > Bro your best CSR is onyx 1600, you don’t know what you’re talking about. You get 8 vultures back onto the playing field for only 1,000 supplies. If you don’t believe me I’ll gladly 1v1 you and show you how broken it is…
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> And again. Ranked doesn’t mean jack yoink, especially this season… Its a terrible ranking system. And yeah, I’m not ranked, you’ve never played me, so you cant judge how good or bad I am at the game.
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> Plenty of people can be Champ #1. You’re not the first, nor will you be the last. Once you reach it once it’s stays on your waypoint stats. Big whoop…
Ok let’s 1v1 then instead of crying to the moderators to come suspend me
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> > > > > Bro your best CSR is onyx 1600, you don’t know what you’re talking about. You get 8 vultures back onto the playing field for only 1,000 supplies. If you don’t believe me I’ll gladly 1v1 you and show you how broken it is…
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> > And again. Ranked doesn’t mean jack yoink, especially this season… Its a terrible ranking system. And yeah, I’m not ranked, you’ve never played me, so you cant judge how good or bad I am at the game.
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I don’t know what beating me in a 1v1 is going to accomplish you… I’d happily play you sometime soon for sure if your pride is so important to you. But I’m also not trying to prove everyone that I’m the very best there is now am I? I’m not the best. Nor are you. I’m just saying that I don’t see the point to your original argument in this thread.
Ill stand by my opinion. COMBAT SALVAGE ISNT OP
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> > > > > > Bro your best CSR is onyx 1600, you don’t know what you’re talking about. You get 8 vultures back onto the playing field for only 1,000 supplies. If you don’t believe me I’ll gladly 1v1 you and show you how broken it is…
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> > > And again. Ranked doesn’t mean jack yoink, especially this season… Its a terrible ranking system. And yeah, I’m not ranked, you’ve never played me, so you cant judge how good or bad I am at the game.
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> > Ok let’s 1v1 then instead of crying to the moderators to come suspend me
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> I don’t know what beating me in a 1v1 is going to accomplish you… I’d happily play you sometime soon for sure if your pride is so important to you. But I’m also not trying to prove everyone that I’m the very best there is now am I? I’m not the best. Nor are you. I’m just saying that I don’t see the point to your original argument in this thread.
I know I’m not the best, I don’t know why you took such offense to the 1600 comment. I was literally only trying to say you haven’t played in the top tier of players and seen how broken combat salvage is. I know all the top tier players and not a single one of them disagrees that combat salvage is broken. I was trying to 1v1 you to show you how broken this leader power is in the right hands. Peace man.
I’ve never dealt with Combat Salvage Vultures but if it’s anything like Combat Salvage Grizzlies I don’t like it already.