In this week’s Halo Bulletin, there was a picture of a spartan holding a huge pistol above a question about CEA’s MP. Could this possibly be a hint that 343 will bring back the 3sk pistol for Anniversary playlists? If so, I love 343.
What are your thoughts? Am I on to something? Or should I shut up and go watch The View?
haha i noticed the same thing and agree with you but just because you said it yes you should shuttup and go watch the view
I have a sneaking suspicion that the CE pistol would be way to powerful in Reach. Tactical nukes would have to be introduced to balance things out.
> I have a sneaking suspicion that the CE pistol would be way to powerful in Reach. Tactical nukes would have to be introduced to balance things out.
Tactical Nukes have already been announced. Get a two rejection spree to call it in and end the game.
Yes! I was going to make a thread about that picture and discuss it. It must be hinting at a new balanced Pistol with a Tweaked Bloom and if the bloom was tweaked to be tighter and with a faster reset, the distance that the Spartans were standing apart from each other would be the “dance” of gunplay between players that the new pistol would allow. The Pistol with a tweaked bloom to reward close range pacers would be its niche, and the DMR’s new bloom with a faster reset and zero spam kills would fall into the medium to long range niche that it should fall under. This would make players have to use two different utility weapons for these specific ranges making Pistol and DMR switching more advanced gameplay.
The picture would have to represent whoever is more expertly skilled pacer with the Pistol via larger Pistol picture, would be the victor in close range battles. They can still keep the DMR and Pistol a 5 shot weapon so that it stays balanced within the sandbox, but with a faster bloom that doesn’t reward spammers, Overkills will actually be achievable like previous Halo games making gameplay more fast paced like it used to be in H1,H2,H3. This also means that the Pistol feel from H1 will be back, and the awesomeness of a Primary DMR weapon will shine like it is supposed to without either being overpowered.
This along with Faster movement speed, and reduced grenade damage/blast radius will make Reach become the Halo game we all want it to be. Also with new balanced AA’s, gameplay will be that much more dynamic. The Super Triangle.
If there was no bloom the pistol would be absolute beast at close to medium range. DMR still would hold medium to long range.
Just making the pistol more powerful is not going to make Reach play like CE. What made CE unique was the combination of the gameplay, good maps that used the gameplay and good balanced weapons. CE was not a pistol only game if you played with good people, everyone like the shotgun and rocket for upclose and everyone like the sniper for long distance. The pistol was a good overall weapon but it was just the right mix.
Frankie has already said he didn’t like the pistol, nor did they like the BR and the former sniper. What is is fun they take out of the game.
He keeps talking about 3 shot kills with the pistol, well if you play with good people you rarely got 3 shot kills. Now with a good sniper all it took was one shot. Frankie really has no business making decisions on MP. IMHO
If they just turn the pistol back to what it was in the beta, I’ll be happy.
Maybe (along with the title update) when Anniversary is out they’ll make playlists in reach were all the players ‘traits’ make it basiclly CE multiplayer? It would be fun, and id love to play firefight with those settings.
There is no way to make Reach like CE or play like it. Why don’t they just tweeks the weapons to make it like COD? Or Gears?
Reach is not CE. To say you can tweek weapons in Reach is like saying you can have Celion Deon singing “For Whom The Bells Toll” and calling it a Metallica concert.
Trust me, even if it were fun, Frankie will change it to make it not fun. Frankie has already stated he doesn’t like CE MP so why would they even try to change the Reach to play like CE when their goal has been to eliminate what was started with CE?
I saw this image ages ago on a facegroup I think…
When I saw bs aod post it in the update I immediately thought “Reach on the left, HCEA on the right”. I assume the TU will offer a magnum buff and removal of bloom / alteration of the DMR, if these images are anything to go from…
EDIT: Link, October 6, 2010. (may require a facebook account to access)
> There is no way to make Reach like CE or play like it. Why don’t they just tweeks the weapons to make it like COD? Or Gears?
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> Reach is not CE. To say you can tweek weapons in Reach is like saying you can have Celion Deon singing “For Whom The Bells Toll” and calling it a Metallica concert.
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> Trust me, even if it were fun, Frankie will change it to make it not fun. Frankie has already stated he doesn’t like CE MP so why would they even try to change the Reach to play like CE when their goal has been to eliminate what was started with CE?
I have a feeling its a hint at an increased clip size, it’s been requested from alot of people since the beta. Plus even with no bloom the pistol would still have to reload after every 1v1 fight only having 8 shot, that isnt anything like the CE pistol!
> There is no way to make Reach like CE or play like it. Why don’t they just tweeks the weapons to make it like COD? Or Gears?
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> Reach is not CE. To say you can tweek weapons in Reach is like saying you can have Celion Deon singing “For Whom The Bells Toll” and calling it a Metallica concert.
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> Trust me, even if it were fun, Frankie will change it to make it not fun. Frankie has already stated he doesn’t like CE MP so why would they even try to change the Reach to play like CE when their goal has been to eliminate what was started with CE?
oh, i didn’t realize Frankie is the only person working on the TU. what you just said is ridiculous.
> oh, i didn’t realize Frankie is the only person working on the TU. what you just said is ridiculous.
Since I never claim any such thing I would believe your post is ridiculous X 2.
> There is no way to make Reach like CE or play like it. Why don’t they just tweeks the weapons to make it like COD? Or Gears?
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> Reach is not CE. To say you can tweek weapons in Reach is like saying you can have Celion Deon singing “For Whom The Bells Toll” and calling it a Metallica concert.
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> Trust me, even if it were fun, Frankie will change it to make it not fun. Frankie has already stated he doesn’t like CE MP so why would they even try to change the Reach to play like CE when their goal has been to eliminate what was started with CE?
The TU is in preparation of Anniversary. 343 employees have stated many times that they will give CEA MP the classic Halo feel, that they will try to please hardcore CE fans, that they will make it play like the original CE MP, etc.
So many reasons why you’re wrong. Also, the new CEA MP will sit side by side with Reach’s, so you can play whichever you like.
> Just making the pistol more powerful is not going to make Reach play like CE. What made CE unique was the combination of the gameplay, good maps that used the gameplay and good balanced weapons. CE was not a pistol only game if you played with good people, everyone like the shotgun and rocket for upclose and everyone like the sniper for long distance. The pistol was a good overall weapon but it was just the right mix.
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> Frankie has already said he didn’t like the pistol, nor did they like the BR and the former sniper. What is is fun they take out of the game.
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> He keeps talking about 3 shot kills with the pistol, well if you play with good people you rarely got 3 shot kills. Now with a good sniper all it took was one shot. Frankie really has no business making decisions on MP. IMHO
Well we’re getting the CE maps, we have all the weapons that were in CE, the TU will make general gameplay fairly close to CE’s, so all we do need now is the old pistol back.
> Well we’re getting the CE maps, we have all the weapons that were in CE, the TU will make general gameplay fairly close to CE’s, so all we do need now is the old pistol back.
Huh. Sorry buddy but you could switch the settings in Halo3 and you could never set the settings to make it play like Halo2 or CE. Heck they even remade the chill map, sorry you can try all day long but Reach will never play like CE or even similar, there is nothing about that game that plays like CE or you never played CE.
Second, Frankie has already said he doesn’t like CE MP, so why in the world would they eliminate the Halo CE gameplay through following releases then try and patch a game they clearly don’t like post release.
Having Celion Deon up on stage singing “For Whom The Bells Toll” does not make it a Metallica concert.
> The TU is in preparation of Anniversary. 343 employees have stated many times that they will give CEA MP the classic Halo feel, that they will try to please hardcore CE fans, that they will make it play like the original CE MP, etc.
> So many reasons why you’re wrong. Also, the new CEA MP will sit side by side with Reach’s, so you can play whichever you like.
A 343 employee can say anything they want. Reach is Reach, CE is CE. Let me see under your understanding, you can put a CE Map in a COD game and just do some tweeking to the guns and presto it’s Halo CE. Doesn’t work like that buddy.
Second, Frankie has said for year he didn’t like the CE MP and the pistol, matter of fact he said in that recent interview that “people would abuse the pistol”. I have no idea what he means about “abuse”, but no you are not getting CE MP.
“How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg? Four. Calling a tail a leg doesn’t make it a leg” -Abraham Lincoln
Call Reach MP with TU Halo CE is the equivalent of calling a tail a leg, just like calling Celion Deon singing “For Whom The Bell Tolls” will never ever ever every be a Metallica concert.
> > The TU is in preparation of Anniversary. 343 employees have stated many times that they will give CEA MP the classic Halo feel, that they will try to please hardcore CE fans, that they will make it play like the original CE MP, etc.
> > So many reasons why you’re wrong. Also, the new CEA MP will sit side by side with Reach’s, so you can play whichever you like.
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> A 343 employee can say anything they want. Reach is Reach, CE is CE. Let me see under your understanding, you can put a CE Map in a COD game and just do some tweeking to the guns and presto it’s Halo CE. Doesn’t work like that buddy.
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> Second, Frankie has said for year he didn’t like the CE MP and the pistol, matter of fact he said in that recent interview that “people would abuse the pistol”. I have no idea what he means about “abuse”, but no you are not getting CE MP.
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> “How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg? Four. Calling a tail a leg doesn’t make it a leg” -Abraham Lincoln
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> Call Reach MP with TU Halo CE is the equivalent of calling a tail a leg, just like calling Celion Deon singing “For Whom The Bell Tolls” will never ever ever every be a Metallica concert.
Don’t you understand? The purpose of the TU is to make Halo Combat Evolved Anniversary’s MP much like the original. The whole point of it is to make it play like CE’s MP. This isn’t even about Reach, this is about Anniversary. And while it obviously won’t be exactly the same, it will be very similar. And stop with the analogies. It’s not proving anything.