As far as I’m concerned, this mangler debate is just further proof to me that playlists should be separated into three tiers like old games - social, ranked, MLG/Hardcore.
There is absolutely room for ranked playlists that don’t adhere to HCS settings.
This is only being discussed because pro players are pushing for it. To satisfy everyone (including the pros) simply change spawn location to either middle of map or at both sides of the map. Also increase spawn timer so you don’t get full teams running around with them.
It’s not even an issue. The weapon sandbox in this game feels so flat, the Mangler is seriously one of the shining stars of the game. Nerfing it to the point that it’s basically the same as every other weapon is a huge mistake. I seriously men this when I say it; but every weapon in the Sandbox needs to be adjusted expect for the Mangler, Skewer, and maybe BR and Shock Rifle. Every other weapon in the game has massive balancing issues that make them uninteresting to use and/or unfun to fight against.
I agree that the mangler is a remarkable weapon. And changing its damage will just turn it into a bad BR.
For some reason if someone shoots me once with it and switch to a br, I get killed fast. But when I get the first hit with the mauler then switch, I need to hit them with 3 full bursts…so idk. Aside from the One hit then beat down actually working for me, outside of that, something feels weird about that gun.
It SHOULD put someone half shields, which will take two bursts if the last bullet is a headshot. Server latency and desync kind of makes that inconsistent though. But boy howdy, when you can pull it off consistently In a good connection match you’re unstoppable
If I’m recalling correctly you can 1 shot-to-melee kill anyone with both the Bulldog and Mangler. Since the mangler is such a superior Magnum-like weapon with its range id say slow it down since that time between shots 2-3 is the most crucial to finding cover prior to your foe getting you with a headshot. That or a more drastic DMG drop-off if people actually cant stand it.
It’s still one my favorite new guns, disruptor can go fall off the map into the creek. 
Many guns have the 1 shot-to-melee combo: Mangler, Bulldog, Heatwave, Hydra, Shock Rifle, Stalker Rifle (I think).
The Disruptors actually kinda nasty if if you full-auto it. But it’s more of a support weapon so… 
Voted do nothing keep the mangler as is.
As long as both sides have equal access in arena or something comparable provided in BTB or another game mode with more options and open play.
I see the weapon as being similarly place to the boltok pistol/6 shooter magnum etc in Gears of War. Both teams had equal spawn points with it prior to arriving at the rockets or major power weapon.
It is fine.
I would only be open to an adjust to the spawn time, so the frequency of it being on the map isn’t too dominant to the rhythm the dev team is going for.
Strength, range, melee and fire rate all feel fine and other weapons do outplay it used properly.
Leave as is.
It takes 2x Mangler shots to drop shields then 1x BR headshot for the kill, so you must be taking shots from other players or the desync is kicking in hard for you to by dying like that.
I’m in the same boat. At the very least 343 needs to test out changing the spawns/maps before they resort to hard nerfs.
I’m dead serious when I say the first shot and then a BR transition kills me.
Its perfectly fine yall are just bad with it or against it. If anything HAS to be done, increase respawn timer. But even then it’s not THAT strong that it needs 1 minute timer on it
Other: make it two shots + one melee to kill. Keep everything else the same.
The only part of the Mangler that’s actually OP is how fast you can kill someone in close range with the shot then melee combo. It’s almost instantaneous. Melee then shot is balanced because you have to hit a headshot.
Who’s “ya’ll”? I’m on your side. Just making a poll. 
It is very slow for me
I’ve really not seen people particularly dominate with it. The weapon seems strong but I wouldn’t have said it’s a colossal improvement over my AR. It’s more that the shotgun and those middle road weapons are a little underwhelming.
Oh yeah, the Mangler gets out gunned by most guns at mid-close range.
Can’t you do the same? Stop complaining and train!
On GOD the Mangler is fine where it is stats wise.
If the pros are complaining about it so much, then they just need to do what they did for Halo 3’s champions leagues and make some maps where the thing doesn’t spawn as often or not at all. Remember Epitaph and how it had a variant known as Epilogue? Or Sandtrap with Sand Tarp? Or Snowbound with Boundless?
Just make a modified version of maps that the pro league likes and change the sandbox for their matches and leave the rest of the 99.9999% of the playerbase AS IT IS