The damn kids are getting very annoying
every time I get a good spree of 20+ say in the scorpion or Gauss, or even just initially getting in them, some jealous noob back stabs me.
Funny I guess at times but after the 3rd or 4th time it gets really old and just plain ruins your gaming experience, how can you play to compete if you keep getting betrayed
I do see 1 issue with stopping friendly fire on vehicles and that’s if an enemy is in that same vehicle, then that would make the vehicle invincible, so as a solution just prevent enemies being on the same vehicle, only allow highjacks.
rant over… thanks for your time
Sadly I don’t think this will ever be fixed. Especially in vehicles with multiple seats because if an enemy is there - does the damage only effect the enemy and not the car/teammates? Exploitable.
But, seriously, I love playing this game - but on the whole the more I play the more tired I get of online multiplayer. If I play one more game with noobs shooting me until my shiled is down trying to bait me into betraying them so they can take my sniper, or idiots tossing stickies on GHauss/Mantis… there’s just no fix for -Yoinks!-.
How the people that act like that can live with themselves is beyond me… I had a guy strafe in front of my field of vision while I was sniping across from Bravo on Exile yesterday for almost 5 full minutes. What the literal -Yoink- -.-
EDIT: Oh and let it be known that I Avoid, Down-rep, and file a complaint against anyone who idles, teamkills, trollbaits, etc. I have a zero tolerance policy for these idiots who can’t just play the game they paid for and actually go out of their way to ruin it for others.
I suggest everyone does the same.
if they remove the enemies ability to hop on the back of a warthog that would resolve it.
It seems like such a simple thing yet this is by far the most annoying feature ive come across.
last night I had some kid blow my scorpion up when I had a 25 kill streak and then follow me around the map tea bagging in front of me. I still won but it wasn’t a nice win lol
So I’m confused and maybe you two can clarify something…
I’m playing on Harvest the other day, I get the laser and am about to blast an enemy warthog when a team mate of mine jumps into this hog being driven by the other team.
Do I take the shot? What happens? Does my team mate die? Does the damage I do there count towards a betrayal penalty? Does my team mate not take any damage from that?
Pretty frustrated that I couldn’t take the shot cause I just had no idea of what the outcome would be.
> if they remove the enemies ability to hop on the back of a warthog that would resolve it.
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> It seems like such a simple thing yet this is by far the most annoying feature ive come across.
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> last night I had some kid blow my scorpion up when I had a 25 kill streak and then follow me around the map tea bagging in front of me. I still won but it wasn’t a nice win lol
I hopped in a Gauss on Meltdown to protect our base for literally 3 seconds - two guys were storming Alpha and the Gauss was parked outside - I hopped in the cannon and was instantly stuck twice by my teammate - enemy takes Alpha.
I ask him wtf that was for and are you kidding me. And he plugs his mic in and says “oh sorry man - I wanted that Gauss” I was like “Dude I hopped in it for 2 seconds, you have to be kidding me, you play like a goddam idiot” Then he spent the next 5 minutes of the match that remained asking me if I forgave him in this annoying constant barrage of annoying until I muted and reported him.
I don’t understand people.
I read this on a past thread talking about the same thing so forgive me if my info is a little off.
Vehicles are not friendlies and thus cannot be tagged as such. They are coded neutral in gameplay to allow a player from either team to use them. Therefore they cannot have protection from friendly fire as they are not on a team.
So despite your hate at noobs destroying your vehicles, 343i can’t do anything about it, sorry.
> So I’m confused and maybe you two can clarify something…
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> I’m playing on Harvest the other day, I get the laser and am about to blast an enemy warthog when a team mate of mine jumps into this hog being driven by the other team.
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> Do I take the shot? What happens? Does my team mate die? Does the damage I do there count towards a betrayal penalty? Does my team mate not take any damage from that?
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> Pretty frustrated that I couldn’t take the shot cause I just had no idea of what the outcome would be.
Your teammate would die - but the game would not count it as a betrayal - no vehicle related team-deaths (except splatters) do.
For the record: I have NO PROBLEM with a situation like that. Sometimes the Splaser is a little over-zealous and gets a teammate. Sometimes a grenade catches me or someone else offguard. I forgive and forget accidental betrayals. But purposeful troll-baiting trying to get me to drop the sniper rifle for 5 minute4s or blowing up every vehicle I get in is another story entirely and utterly unacceptable.
wow I can see why your confused.
Betrays pop up all the time even sometimes when you havnt even done anything, pretty sure in that situation it would kill them.
At that point I would have took the shot because if your team mate hasn’t noticed his vehicle is compromised then he needs to learn a lesson lol
Gotta be cruel to be kind sometimes
> I read this on a past thread talking about the same thing so forgive me if my info is a little off.
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> Vehicles are not friendlies and thus cannot be tagged as such. They are coded neutral in gameplay to allow a player from either team to use them. Therefore they cannot have protection from friendly fire as they are not on a team.
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> So despite your hate at noobs destroying your vehicles, 343i can’t do anything about it, sorry.
A fix I would prefer - instead of vehicles being marked friendly because I see that as an issue myself - I would rather that a betrayal count as a betrayal EVEN ON VEHICLES. That way the little rat who blows up the Mantis/Gauss/Tank can be kicked in the first minute of every game they play.
I’m refraining from commenting on whether or not it is “right” or “wrong” to have vehicle’s immune from friendly fire, but one possibly way to solve the “enemy on board but still invincible” issue would be:
the invincibility is ONLY in place when it is 100% team controlled. An enemy boarded the wraith/ghost, or is riding in the turret of the wraith/scorpion/'hog, or even riding on the back/2nd seat of a mongoose - any of these removes the invincibility.
Every time I get in the Mantis, someone throws a grenade at me. One time, someone was so persistent to peruse me until I blew up. I killed him, he booted me. It’s not right.
Someone takes it too serious (not you OP)! OP I started a thread like this a few pages back and got TONS of its your problem not the developers! So those same @$$ hats that are doing it are also in the forum. BTB was easily the best playlist when the game dropped but now its around 70/30 you get that selfish guy who takes away a power weapon from the team.
Most game types have a large amount of players who take it too seriously (2nd poster) and people who are not gonna help you.
That would work - vehicle betray = instant boot ( apart from getting run over by the ghost, that cant be helped sometimes lol, that thing is speeeedy )
> Someone takes it too serious (not you OP)! OP I started a thread like this a few pages back and got TONS of its your problem not the developers! So those same @$$ hats that are doing it are also in the forum. BTB was easily the best playlist when the game dropped but now its around 70/30 you get that selfish guy who takes away a power weapon from the team.
> Most game types have a large amount of players who take it too seriously (2nd poster) and people who are not gonna help you.
I take it to oseriously? Are you an idiot?
You wouldn’t mind a guy standing in front of you while you tried to snipe, Assault Rifleing you unti lyour shields were down and trying to get the enemy to kill you so he could take the sniper?
Sounds liek you do a fair bit of what we’re talking about yourself if you don’t see the isuse with acting like that.
TBF I don’t think 343 even read or take notice to these threads, sometimes I wonder why I bother posting lol
> Someone takes it too serious (not you OP)! OP I started a thread like this a few pages back and got TONS of its your problem not the developers! So those same @$$ hats that are doing it are also in the forum. BTB was easily the best playlist when the game dropped but now its around 70/30 you get that selfish guy who takes away a power weapon from the team.
> Most game types have a large amount of players who take it too seriously (2nd poster) and people who are not gonna help you.
I think I’m right - considering you have no issue with boosting with a second (AND THIRD!) controller - https://app.halowaypoint.com/en-us/#Halo4/Spoonboy27/wargames/match-9114d5cc30ad87a2
30 kills on your “friends” and 12 were assassinations and they had 0 kills? lol you are a joke and exactly what is wrong with this game.
One time on Ragnarok, I was following a teamate in the Mantis with my Ghost, you know, to sort of give him covering fire and protect him from potential boarders, then the litte -Yoink!- decides to turn around and Mantis-Stomp my Ghost, destroying it. I was so, SO fed up with people like this, that I pulled out my Plasma Pistol, used it on him, and threw stickies at him until the Mantis blew up. And get this, HE was mad at ME for blowing up the Mantis, and acted like he did’nt blow up my Ghost at all.
Yep, I was in a game on Vortex where this one kid was spamming all the vehicles with plasma grenades. I never get in ghosts but I felt like it that day, but it got destroyed immediately by my teammate.
Also, another time, I had the sniper on Ragnarok and this kid runs me down in a ghost to take my sniper. When I respawned I ran and got the new sniper that had just respawned, so I was like whatever. Then, the same kid gets in another ghost and splatters me AGAIN. I didn’t even get the option to boot the stupid noob. The kid only ended up with like 4 kills at the end of the game too, so I don’t know if he was even sniping at all or just trolling my team.
I’m pretty sure these two were the same day. I never actually had run into anyone betraying or doing any of these things until these two games, so I guess I’ve been lucky.
It is just as annoying with somebody destroying a vehicle because they didn’t get it. This is too common of a problem and it didn’t happen this much in reach or halo 3.
The only true way to get around this is the boot option because even i admit that i would exploit the friendly fire suggesting. An example being have my team stick me with a crapload of grenades while i zoom the banshee near the mantis.
> It is just as annoying with somebody destroying a vehicle because they didn’t get it. This is too common of a problem and it didn’t happen this much in reach or halo 3.
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> The only true way to get around this is the boot option because even i admit that i would exploit the friendly fire suggesting. An example being have my team stick me with a crapload of grenades while i zoom the banshee near the mantis.
Yup - making the vehicles friendly is not the solution. Having ALL team kills (excluding the first say 1-2 splatters) be counted as betrayals is the way to fix this.