This thread is directed at anyone who hates armor abilities, custom augmentations or any other new innovations.
THERE WILL BE CLASSIC PLAYLISTS! =)
Frankie confirmed: “CLASSIC HALO will be in halo 4”
" THERE WILL be ways for fans to enjoy a classic halo experience"
Why in the world are people still complaining about sprint when they will be able to play free of any AA’s or anything else in the classic playlists?
Seriously im so tired of people speculating and demanding 343 take things out of the game as if 343 is forcing people to play the playlists that contain them.
If you dont like AA’s stay in the classic playlist! its that simple. 343 is not going to make major changes to the game and make it like halo 3 people. So stop with the polls and the petitions trying to get 343 to remove things.
You will have your space to play old school halo, and we will have our space to play with all the fun new innovations.
How do we know what a ‘classic playlist’ even is, considering the moves that 343 has taken recently?
Quit taking everything they say, word for word. Bungie said they would implement a system to make the issue of quitters have less of an impact, did they do that? No. They blatantly lied.
> How do we know what a ‘classic playlist’ even is, considering the moves that 343 has taken recently?
>
> Quit taking everything they say, word for word. Bungie said they would implement a system to make the issue of quitters have less of an impact, did they do that? No. They blatantly lied.
>
> Quit speculating yourself.
That is a completely different issue. Its not as easy as you think programming wise to solve the quitter problem.
however considering 343 has been working on this game since ODST launched, its pretty safe to say they have a system figured out to give the hardcore fans what they want.
Why would frankie say there will be classic experiences for more long term halo fans if he didnt mean it? The game is almost done im pretty sure they have it figured out lol.
> This thread is directed at anyone who hates armor abilities, custom augmentations or any other new innovations.
>
> THERE WILL BE CLASSIC PLAYLISTS! =)
>
> Frankie confirmed: “CLASSIC HALO will be in halo 4”
>
> " THERE WILL be ways for fans to enjoy a classic halo experience"
>
> Why in the world are people still complaining about sprint when they will be able to play free of any AA’s or anything else in the classic playlists?
>
> Seriously im so tired of people speculating and demanding 343 take things out of the game as if 343 is forcing people to play the playlists that contain them.
>
> If you dont like AA’s stay in the classic playlist! its that simple. 343 is not going to make major changes to the game and make it like halo 3 people. So stop with the polls and the petitions trying to get 343 to remove things.
>
> You will have your space to play old school halo, and we will have our space to play with all the fun new innovations.
Because they are just gonna give us 1 playlist in the dark corner thats neglected with all forged maps…
> > So if people hate Armor Abilities and all that, they are hardcore players? On who’s arbitrary reasoning?
>
> Most hardcore halo fans hate halo reach. this is an unfortunate fact.
I laughed.
Define a “hardcore” fan.
Iv’e played every Halo, some more than others, and I didn’t hate Reach.
> > This thread is directed at anyone who hates armor abilities, custom augmentations or any other new innovations.
> >
> > THERE WILL BE CLASSIC PLAYLISTS! =)
> >
> > Frankie confirmed: “CLASSIC HALO will be in halo 4”
> >
> > " THERE WILL be ways for fans to enjoy a classic halo experience"
> >
> > Why in the world are people still complaining about sprint when they will be able to play free of any AA’s or anything else in the classic playlists?
> >
> > Seriously im so tired of people speculating and demanding 343 take things out of the game as if 343 is forcing people to play the playlists that contain them.
> >
> > If you dont like AA’s stay in the classic playlist! its that simple. 343 is not going to make major changes to the game and make it like halo 3 people. So stop with the polls and the petitions trying to get 343 to remove things.
> >
> > You will have your space to play old school halo, and we will have our space to play with all the fun new innovations.
>
> Because they are just gonna give us 1 playlist in the dark corner thats neglected with all forged maps…
Why would they do that? Again THE GAME HAS BEEN IN DEVELOPMENT FOR 4 YEARS !
The only reason reach did such a bad job with classic experiences is because it was RUSHED.
They took their time with this game and all the experiences they promise will be polished and enjoyable. Its bad business to say things like that then give a terrible version of what you promised.
But i guess this is what i get for trying to give people hope lol.
If you all want to rage whine and cry over things that arent that big of a deal go ahead. I guess most people prefer to be miserable instead of having hope.
> > > So if people hate Armor Abilities and all that, they are hardcore players? On who’s arbitrary reasoning?
> >
> > Most hardcore halo fans hate halo reach. this is an unfortunate fact.
>
> I laughed.
>
> Define a “hardcore” fan.
>
> Iv’e played every Halo, some more than others, and I didn’t hate Reach.
>
> Am I a hardcore fan?
>
> You tell me.
You need to take some english / economic courses and learn in these scenarios when someone says “hardcore fans” they mean generally most hardcore fans.
I KNOW every single hardcore halo fan didnt hate reach but majority of them did. Hence why almost every thread that pops up in the reach forum is a hate thread saying reach should have been more like halo 3 and almost every thread that pops up here is hating on how bad reach was and how halo 4 will be a trash “reach 2”
> > So if people hate Armor Abilities and all that, they are hardcore players? On who’s arbitrary reasoning?
>
> Most hardcore halo fans hate halo reach. this is an unfortunate fact.
Uh, EVERYONE hated Halo Reach. The only thing Reach was good for was Infection it would seem. They lost the game of Halo with Reach.
343 is attempting to cut all the bad Reach mechanics out, but they don’t seem to have the balls to cut out all the horrors.
They don’t think the pure, simple, beautiful core game of Halo will sell enough copies. Hence Sprint. 343 doesn’t believe enough in Halo.
> > How do we know what a ‘classic playlist’ even is, considering the moves that 343 has taken recently?
> >
> > Quit taking everything they say, word for word. Bungie said they would implement a system to make the issue of quitters have less of an impact, did they do that? No. They blatantly lied.
> >
> > Quit speculating yourself.
>
> That is a completely different issue. Its not as easy as you think programming wise to solve the quitter problem.
>
> however considering 343 has been working on this game since ODST launched, its pretty safe to say they have a system figured out to give the hardcore fans what they want.
>
> Why would frankie say there will be classic experiences for more long term halo fans if he didnt mean it? The game is almost done im pretty sure they have it figured out lol.
>
>
> But whatever you can be negative if you want : )
Regarding your first point, if you can’t do something, you don’t promise to do it. Plain and simple.
Second of all, Reach was already in development when Halo 3 was released, so I think we can say that they had more than enough time to figure out how to cater to the competitive fans as well as the casuals.
Third, 343 is an untested company, and they’re already putting in the most controversial features a Halo game has ever seen. If the ranked playlists do cater to competitives and don’t include any of these gimmicks that I’ve seen so far, then all will be fine. But if ranked play includes things such as sprint that drove off a huge portion of the competitive population in Halo Reach, we have a problem.
> This thread is directed at anyone who hates armor abilities, custom augmentations or any other new innovations.
>
> THERE WILL BE CLASSIC PLAYLISTS! =)
>
> Frankie confirmed: “CLASSIC HALO will be in halo 4”
>
> " THERE WILL be ways for fans to enjoy a classic halo experience"
>
> Why in the world are people still complaining about sprint when they will be able to play free of any AA’s or anything else in the classic playlists?
>
> Seriously im so tired of people speculating and demanding 343 take things out of the game as if 343 is forcing people to play the playlists that contain them.
>
> If you dont like AA’s stay in the classic playlist! its that simple. 343 is not going to make major changes to the game and make it like halo 3 people. So stop with the polls and the petitions trying to get 343 to remove things.
>
> You will have your space to play old school halo, and we will have our space to play with all the fun new innovations.
I’m glad Frankie said we’ll have our own sandbox to play in, but the question becomes how big is this sandbox going to be? I don’t want literally just 1-2 playlists. He says we’ll be covered, but doesn’t say by how far.
> This thread is directed at anyone who hates armor abilities, custom augmentations or any other new innovations.
>
> THERE WILL BE CLASSIC PLAYLISTS! =)
>
> Frankie confirmed: “CLASSIC HALO will be in halo 4”
>
> " THERE WILL be ways for fans to enjoy a classic halo experience"
>
> Why in the world are people still complaining about sprint when they will be able to play free of any AA’s or anything else in the classic playlists?
>
> Seriously im so tired of people speculating and demanding 343 take things out of the game as if 343 is forcing people to play the playlists that contain them.
>
> If you dont like AA’s stay in the classic playlist! its that simple. 343 is not going to make major changes to the game and make it like halo 3 people. So stop with the polls and the petitions trying to get 343 to remove things.
>
> You will have your space to play old school halo, and we will have our space to play with all the fun new innovations.
Define hardcore. Is playing halo 2 and 3 make you hardcore? I don’t get these classifications sometimes.
> > > So if people hate Armor Abilities and all that, they are hardcore players? On who’s arbitrary reasoning?
> >
> > Most hardcore halo fans hate halo reach. this is an unfortunate fact.
>
> Uh, EVERYONE hated Halo Reach. The only thing Reach was good for was Infection it would seem. They lost the game of Halo with Reach.
>
> 343 is attempting to cut all the bad Reach mechanics out, but they don’t seem to have the balls to cut out all the horrors.
>
> They don’t think the pure, simple, beautiful core game of Halo will sell enough copies. Hence Sprint. 343 doesn’t believe enough in Halo.
Dont generalize me with the population that hated Reach.
> > or any other new innovations.
>
> Ripping off other franchises is not innovation…
Because you know every single new feature thats going into halo 4 right? Please share with us all of the things that 343 put into halo 4 so we can know. I wasnt aware they revealed every mode and detail.
> > > > So if people hate Armor Abilities and all that, they are hardcore players? On who’s arbitrary reasoning?
> > >
> > > Most hardcore halo fans hate halo reach. this is an unfortunate fact.
> >
> > I laughed.
> >
> > Define a “hardcore” fan.
> >
> > Iv’e played every Halo, some more than others, and I didn’t hate Reach.
> >
> > Am I a hardcore fan?
> >
> > You tell me.
>
> You need to take some english / economic courses and learn in these scenarios when someone says “hardcore fans” they mean generally most hardcore fans.
>
> I KNOW every single hardcore halo fan didnt hate reach but majority of them did. Hence why almost every thread that pops up in the reach forum is a hate thread saying reach should have been more like halo 3 and almost every thread that pops up here is hating on how bad reach was and how halo 4 will be a trash “reach 2”
>
>
> I also played every halo game and love reach…-.-
You love Reach so much you played a whopping 500 games.
> > > > So if people hate Armor Abilities and all that, they are hardcore players? On who’s arbitrary reasoning?
> > >
> > > Most hardcore halo fans hate halo reach. this is an unfortunate fact.
> >
> > Uh, EVERYONE hated Halo Reach. The only thing Reach was good for was Infection it would seem. They lost the game of Halo with Reach.
> >
> > 343 is attempting to cut all the bad Reach mechanics out, but they don’t seem to have the balls to cut out all the horrors.
> >
> > They don’t think the pure, simple, beautiful core game of Halo will sell enough copies. Hence Sprint. 343 doesn’t believe enough in Halo.
>
> Dont generalize me with the population that hated Reach.
THE OP OF THIS VERY THREAD BARELY PLAYED REACH!
HELLO!!!
The bar is set so low now for Halo nobody knows what great Halo is.
Great Halo is a game you’ll start playing, and then your room will light up and you’ll be like, “Uh…is that the sun!? Better go to bed.”.
> > > How do we know what a ‘classic playlist’ even is, considering the moves that 343 has taken recently?
> > >
> > > Quit taking everything they say, word for word. Bungie said they would implement a system to make the issue of quitters have less of an impact, did they do that? No. They blatantly lied.
> > >
> > > Quit speculating yourself.
> >
> > That is a completely different issue. Its not as easy as you think programming wise to solve the quitter problem.
> >
> > however considering 343 has been working on this game since ODST launched, its pretty safe to say they have a system figured out to give the hardcore fans what they want.
> >
> > Why would frankie say there will be classic experiences for more long term halo fans if he didnt mean it? The game is almost done im pretty sure they have it figured out lol.
> >
> >
> > But whatever you can be negative if you want : )
>
> Regarding your first point, if you can’t do something, you don’t promise to do it. Plain and simple.
>
> Second of all, Reach was already in development when Halo 3 was released, so I think we can say that they had more than enough time to figure out how to cater to the competitive fans as well as the casuals.
>
> Third, 343 is an untested company, and they’re already putting in the most controversial features a Halo game has ever seen. If the ranked playlists do cater to competitives and don’t include any of these gimmicks that I’ve seen so far, then all will be fine. But if ranked play includes things such as sprint that drove off a huge portion of the competitive population in Halo Reach, we have a problem.
Frankie has said countless times that he understands how delicate the community balance is right now and doesnt want to step on any toes with halo 4’s experiences. You have to understand that.
There will most likely be ranked for both the new experiences and the classic ones. He stated plenty of times that they care about both the classic fans and the new fans and will give both enough to have fun with : )