Please nerf Promethean Soldiers in WZFF.

These guys have got to be the most annoying damage sponges of all time. When I empty an entire magazine from a Battle Rifle into a Soldier’s head and it doesn’t even break through his armor, we have a serious problem.

I’m not even talking about the bosses. I’m talking about the ordinary Soldiers that come with the trash mobs.

They could at least have several difficulties optional to this game mode as if it were “semi - Campaign” like spartan Ops.
Easy to Legendary

Just hit them in the back (assassinate) or grab a scout hog

No because you can just run into them with a vehicle.

Also, it’s not supposed to be easy since there’s 8 of you, obviously when you have a team of randoms that lack any common sense, killing the enemy will be a lot harder.

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> No because you can just run into them with a vehicle.
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> Also, it’s not supposed to be easy since there’s 8 of you, obviously when you have a team of randoms that lack any common sense, killing the enemy will be a lot harder.

Well, if there’s eight of us and about forty of them, and they kill us in a matter of seconds while we have to unload magazines of ammunition into their faces before their armor comes off, I’d say a nerf is necessary.

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> > 2533274815439346;4:
> > No because you can just run into them with a vehicle.
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> > Also, it’s not supposed to be easy since there’s 8 of you, obviously when you have a team of randoms that lack any common sense, killing the enemy will be a lot harder.
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> Well, if there’s eight of us and about forty of them, and they kill us in a matter of seconds while we have to unload magazines of ammunition into their faces before their armor comes off, I’d say a nerf is necessary.

Thank you…

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> No because you can just run into them with a vehicle.
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> Also, it’s not supposed to be easy since there’s 8 of you, obviously when you have a team of randoms that lack any common sense, killing the enemy will be a lot harder.

Run them over with a vehicle.

Either they decide to teleport, rending themselves invulnerable, they shoot you out the side, or they take the vehicle from you, good luck taking it back.

I find it funny how a Scout Warthog is so valuable in Firefight compared to most power weapons.

Kinetic rounds on ar plus head shot from a pistol.
They drop resonably then. Take a suppressor and replace the ar if you want it to go quicker.

The uber hammer will kill them!

Suppressor is amazing against soldiers and even knights

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> Just hit them in the back (assassinate) or grab a scout hog

Assassinations don’t work against an army of them.

As everyone else said, vehicles are key to killing them quickly. Alternatively, you could pick them off with a Shotgun/Razor’s Edge/Scattershot, or use an SMG/AR to damage their crit spots and finish them off with a precision weapon, but the process of killing them won’t be quick unless you use a vehicle. (That being said, using vehicles is mostly a risk/reward type of thing, so if you mess up by running into a splinter grenade/wall, or flip your vehicle over, you’re more then likely going to die.)

One thing to keep in mind though, don’t bother using explosives unless you’re good with the plasma caster/supercombine weapons. For the most part, explosive weapons don’t have much ammo, and will usually end up causing you to die against an army of them.

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> Suppressor is amazing against soldiers and even knights

Only good against knights if they lock on to/hit the weak spot of the knight.

As for soldiers, it’s decent, but not really effective against a horde of them. (Which is why I prefer the razor’s edge over the other two versions of the suppressor.)

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> They could at least have several difficulties optional to this game mode as if it were “semi - Campaign” like spartan Ops.
> Easy to Legendary

The only downfall with that is that it would just split the firefight players apart, increasing the time it takes to find matches.

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> > Just hit them in the back (assassinate) or grab a scout hog
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> Assassinations don’t work against an army of them.
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> As everyone else said, vehicles are key to killing them quickly. Alternatively, you could pick them off with a Shotgun/Razor’s Edge/Scattershot, or use an SMG/AR to damage their crit spots and finish them off with a precision weapon, but the process of killing them won’t be quick unless you use a vehicle. (That being said, using vehicles is mostly a risk/reward type of thing, so if you mess up by running into a splinter grenade/wall, or flip your vehicle over, you’re more then likely going to die.)
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> One thing to keep in mind though, don’t bother using explosives unless you’re good with the plasma caster/supercombine weapons. For the most part, explosive weapons don’t have much ammo, and will usually end up causing you to die against an army of them.
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> > Suppressor is amazing against soldiers and even knights
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> Only good against knights if they lock on to/hit the weak spot of the knight.
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> As for soldiers, it’s decent, but not really effective against a horde of them.

Nothing is really effective against a horde though. The high ammo capacity is very helpful as well one v one. Or even a couple.

Just do a punch in the back to kill a bunch of them. I have taken out 3-5 back to back while they were distracted

All the Prometheans need to be nerfed and vehicles need a buff its boring splattering everything I want to use guass and rocket hogs and mongooses but I can’t because a pack of crawlers makes short work of everything

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> > Just hit them in the back (assassinate) or grab a scout hog
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> Assassinations don’t work against an army of them.
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> As everyone else said, vehicles are key to killing them quickly. Alternatively, you could pick them off with a Shotgun/Razor’s Edge/Scattershot, or use an SMG/AR to damage their crit spots and finish them off with a precision weapon, but the process of killing them won’t be quick unless you use a vehicle. (That being said, using vehicles is mostly a risk/reward type of thing, so if you mess up by running into a splinter grenade/wall, or flip your vehicle over, you’re more then likely going to die.)
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> One thing to keep in mind though, don’t bother using explosives unless you’re good with the plasma caster/supercombine weapons. For the most part, explosive weapons don’t have much ammo, and will usually end up causing you to die against an army of them.
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> > Suppressor is amazing against soldiers and even knights
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> Only good against knights if they lock on to/hit the weak spot of the knight.
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> As for soldiers, it’s decent, but not really effective against a horde of them. (Which is why I prefer the razor’s edge over the other two versions of the suppressor.)
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> > They could at least have several difficulties optional to this game mode as if it were “semi - Campaign” like spartan Ops.
> > Easy to Legendary
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> The only downfall with that is that it would just split the firefight players apart, increasing the time it takes to find matches.

very true

Nope, I think they are alright as they are, if you ‘empty an entire magazine from a Battle Rifle into a Soldier’s head and it doesn’t even break through his armor’ then clearly you aren’t hitting the head hitbox. If there are a lot of them, either get a good team or learn to use a ghost.

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> Nope, I think they are alright as they are, if you ‘empty an entire magazine from a Battle Rifle into a Soldier’s head and it doesn’t even break through his armor’ then clearly you aren’t hitting the head hitbox. If there are a lot of them, either get a good team or learn to use a ghost.

Debatable

I don’t think it’s just Soldiers, but Prometheans compared to the Covenant. What with their ability to spawn inside the armory we were supposed to be defending, ability to soak up damage like Shamwows, the way they chase down low health players super hard (compared to the covenant), it just seems like they’re a way harder enemy to fight compared to the Covenant. I think the Prometheans should be turned down just a bit to match the Covenant’s difficulty.

Fewer light riffles please!

Sufficient nerf ^

No more promethean deffend objectives on rounds 1&2.
Please?^
So randoms can make it to round 3.

I wish they’d nerf Banshees. These … are super annoying. Even if you’re in a vehicle they’ll destroy it in a second. Before you can even react you’re dead.
When I’m on Apex 7 and round 3 or 4 starts with the 4 hunters at the shore and a gazillion Knights surrounding them, tried bringing out a vehicle before the round started as soon as I spawned there before I even could move my vehicle got destroyed because of these shhhhh banshees.

Soldiers just have an annoying amount of health. Regular ones take 2-3 shotgun blasts to kill at point blank. They can also soak up a rocket if it isn’t a direct hit. It takes 3 headshots with a sniper rifle to kill them. Being stuck by a plasma grenade doesn’t kill any soldiers past the bare basic ones.

If the only viable way to kill them on early waves is to exploit the insta-kill from vehicle damage, there is a problem. That’s called players using a design flaw to combat another design flaw.