> I liked Reach the way it was when it came out, when armor lock was useful and you had to pace your shots, but I see the need to create a CE playlist for CEA’s multiplayer.
armour lock is still usefull post TU, it just requires actual thought and teamwork now, you didn’t need to pace your shots either, as long as your reticule is red you could spam and win the majority of the time.
> > > > If 343i is actually dumb enough to change Reach completely I will have lost all faith in them. Who do you think would be more pissed off? The people who where dumb enough to buy something they don’t like, or the the people who bought a game they liked completely and had it changed? I bet people who like any of the previous Halo games would be pissed off if that happened to their games, and I would too! Adding stuff is fine, but Reach stays as I and many others bought it.
> > >
> > > We are all a part of the community, and the community owns Halo.
> > >
> > > If the vocal majority hates the game, then obviously something is wrong with it. It;s dumb for people to buy a game they know they hate, but obviously we’ve bought it long before we had a solid opinion on it. Furthermore, it’s even dumber for 343 to ignore the large amount of vocal complaints. Someone might be fine with it, but the vocal majority isn’t. And when the vocal majority seems to despise a game, that’s a hint for developers to get their Yoink! fixed.
> >
> > Yeah that’s fine for people to complain. However, 343i has listened and given you a peace offering. Take it and leave the rest of Reach alone.
>
> so instead of having a fixed game we should have a broken game?
>
> uh… no.
Reach is not broken!
> > > > > If 343i is actually dumb enough to change Reach completely I will have lost all faith in them. Who do you think would be more pissed off? The people who where dumb enough to buy something they don’t like, or the the people who bought a game they liked completely and had it changed? I bet people who like any of the previous Halo games would be pissed off if that happened to their games, and I would too! Adding stuff is fine, but Reach stays as I and many others bought it.
> > > >
> > > > We are all a part of the community, and the community owns Halo.
> > > >
> > > > If the vocal majority hates the game, then obviously something is wrong with it. It;s dumb for people to buy a game they know they hate, but obviously we’ve bought it long before we had a solid opinion on it. Furthermore, it’s even dumber for 343 to ignore the large amount of vocal complaints. Someone might be fine with it, but the vocal majority isn’t. And when the vocal majority seems to despise a game, that’s a hint for developers to get their Yoink! fixed.
> > >
> > > Yeah that’s fine for people to complain. However, 343i has listened and given you a peace offering. Take it and leave the rest of Reach alone.
> >
> > so instead of having a fixed game we should have a broken game?
> >
> > uh… no.
>
> Reach is not broken!
Bahhaahahahahaha! Even 343 admitted bloom did not work as intended!
> > > > > In reach you must out think your opponent not just out shoot him
> > > >
> > > > i have a question for you. say two players were to go head to head in a battle. DMR’s only, no grenades, no other weapons. flat terrain in a large box with no cover. the fight takes place at midrange (lets say 20 feet ingame) and as soon as it starts player A starts spamming his DMR like a mad man. how does player B his guarantee a win this fight?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I think thats the big problem you have,using abysmal algorithem and suboptimal mechanic echo in your argument does not explain why you have invested so much time in a game you DONT LIKE,leaving it to us,the irrelevant ignorant players
> > > >
> > > > i would think that he spends time playing this game to better understand the mechanics so that he can know what hes talking about when he is making ideas on how to make the game better.
> > > > makes alot more sense then just making blind statements about weather things work properly don’t you think?
> > >
> > > Reach is not a failure,it competes with an ever increasing population of great successful games.Whatever knowledge you have in game mechanics has apparently obscured the basics of supply and demand as well as your ability to objectively determine if a game is successful
> >
> > 1 As in life,in battle there are no guarantees,you could set up a scenerio where you put two players in a room,one with a gun,one without and eventually the one without a gun would kill the other at some point.The better man does not always win,even in video games.
>
> the person in the room with a gun will win if the person without the gun has no skill, if the person without the gun new how to fight(skill) he could either kill him with his bare hands or use his skill to steal his gun and shoot him instead.
> see, most skill full person would come out on top even though your scenario presented was awfull and unbalanced.
>
> why do people continue to try and make a science fiction first person shooter in to a realistic modern day shooter? it doesn’t make any sense, people keep banging on about this not be realistic, that being realistic and so on but geuss what, this is a sci-fi not a modern shooter!
>
> what does real life have to do with game anyway? people play games to escape from reality and to have fun, if i wanted any realistic elements i would go join the army…
>
>
>
> > 2 Yeah right,the guy plays 2000 games of the most hated halo(his opinion)for research so he can have a better understanding of the game when he comes on a forum to discuss it and make suggestions.I suppose all that knowledge is what made him come to the determination that the majority of reach players are irrelevant,and should not be considered when designing a video game.That make sense.(no it doesnt)
>
> ever considor he does actually enjoy the game but thinks and knows there is something wrong that should be adressed so he voicing his thoughts to help fix or make the game better?
>
>
>
> > 3 Oh the humanity,oh what an abject failure,what an insult to the halo brand puts back of hand to forehead how will the halo player ever be able to face the world knowing that it is in 5th place in the world?Thats it you conviced me,it was the hype,all this time I thought I was having fun playing a sweet video game(thanks bungie,seriously)but really I had the out of balanced,overpowered wool pulled over my eyes.Im going to go play CoD…No Im not,its slayer time 
>
> nice sarcasm.
1st point,you are not considering real world factors that affect gameplay,distarction,fatigue,brain farts,etc.You imagine it as an unwavering perfectly consistant scenerio where the “better player” will never faulter and the player that is not good will never have a moment of brilliant gameplay,who is setting up an awfuul and unbalenced scenerio?2nd point,I would consider that,but read the post I was responding to,and tell me you hear one once of enjoyment,frankly it sounds like he is talking about an exwife.3rd thank you,sarcasim is my speciality.(<sincerity)(<sarcasim)(<JK sincerity LOL)
> > > > If 343i is actually dumb enough to change Reach completely I will have lost all faith in them. Who do you think would be more pissed off? The people who where dumb enough to buy something they don’t like, or the the people who bought a game they liked completely and had it changed? I bet people who like any of the previous Halo games would be pissed off if that happened to their games, and I would too! Adding stuff is fine, but Reach stays as I and many others bought it.
> > >
> > > We are all a part of the community, and the community owns Halo.
> > >
> > > If the vocal majority hates the game, then obviously something is wrong with it. It;s dumb for people to buy a game they know they hate, but obviously we’ve bought it long before we had a solid opinion on it. Furthermore, it’s even dumber for 343 to ignore the large amount of vocal complaints. Someone might be fine with it, but the vocal majority isn’t. And when the vocal majority seems to despise a game, that’s a hint for developers to get their Yoink! fixed.
> >
> > Yeah that’s fine for people to complain. However, 343i has listened and given you a peace offering. Take it and leave the rest of Reach alone.
>
> so instead of having a fixed game we should have a broken game?
>
> uh… no.
Nice one Haunted. I never heard that one.
> > > > > If 343i is actually dumb enough to change Reach completely I will have lost all faith in them. Who do you think would be more pissed off? The people who where dumb enough to buy something they don’t like, or the the people who bought a game they liked completely and had it changed? I bet people who like any of the previous Halo games would be pissed off if that happened to their games, and I would too! Adding stuff is fine, but Reach stays as I and many others bought it.
> > > >
> > > > We are all a part of the community, and the community owns Halo.
> > > >
> > > > If the vocal majority hates the game, then obviously something is wrong with it. It;s dumb for people to buy a game they know they hate, but obviously we’ve bought it long before we had a solid opinion on it. Furthermore, it’s even dumber for 343 to ignore the large amount of vocal complaints. Someone might be fine with it, but the vocal majority isn’t. And when the vocal majority seems to despise a game, that’s a hint for developers to get their Yoink! fixed.
> > >
> > > Yeah that’s fine for people to complain. However, 343i has listened and given you a peace offering. Take it and leave the rest of Reach alone.
> >
> > so instead of having a fixed game we should have a broken game?
> >
> > uh… no.
>
> Reach is not broken!
got any evidence or reasoning behind such a bold statement?
things that do not work as intended are broken
bloom doesn’t work as intended - broken
forge snapping doesn’t work as intended - broken
gaus hog shooting through walls - broken
other things are pretty un-balanced:
armour lock
jetpack(more maps then anything though)
banshee bomb
tank
grenades(this is more with movement charecteristics)
are you sure default reach isn’t broken?
> > I liked Reach the way it was when it came out, when armor lock was useful and you had to pace your shots, but I see the need to create a CE playlist for CEA’s multiplayer.
>
> armour lock is still usefull post TU, it just requires actual thought and teamwork now, you didn’t need to pace your shots either, as long as your reticule is red you could spam and win the majority of the time.
armor lock has been nerfed and removed from playlists so many times it’s barely useful in or not available in FFA/Team Games.
and at long ranges you did have to pace your shots.
> > > > > > In reach you must out think your opponent not just out shoot him
> > > > >
> > > > > i have a question for you. say two players were to go head to head in a battle. DMR’s only, no grenades, no other weapons. flat terrain in a large box with no cover. the fight takes place at midrange (lets say 20 feet ingame) and as soon as it starts player A starts spamming his DMR like a mad man. how does player B his guarantee a win this fight?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I think thats the big problem you have,using abysmal algorithem and suboptimal mechanic echo in your argument does not explain why you have invested so much time in a game you DONT LIKE,leaving it to us,the irrelevant ignorant players
> > > > >
> > > > > i would think that he spends time playing this game to better understand the mechanics so that he can know what hes talking about when he is making ideas on how to make the game better.
> > > > > makes alot more sense then just making blind statements about weather things work properly don’t you think?
> > > >
> > > > Reach is not a failure,it competes with an ever increasing population of great successful games.Whatever knowledge you have in game mechanics has apparently obscured the basics of supply and demand as well as your ability to objectively determine if a game is successful
> > >
> > > 1 As in life,in battle there are no guarantees,you could set up a scenerio where you put two players in a room,one with a gun,one without and eventually the one without a gun would kill the other at some point.The better man does not always win,even in video games.
> >
> > the person in the room with a gun will win if the person without the gun has no skill, if the person without the gun new how to fight(skill) he could either kill him with his bare hands or use his skill to steal his gun and shoot him instead.
> > see, most skill full person would come out on top even though your scenario presented was awfull and unbalanced.
> >
> > why do people continue to try and make a science fiction first person shooter in to a realistic modern day shooter? it doesn’t make any sense, people keep banging on about this not be realistic, that being realistic and so on but geuss what, this is a sci-fi not a modern shooter!
> >
> > what does real life have to do with game anyway? people play games to escape from reality and to have fun, if i wanted any realistic elements i would go join the army…
> >
> >
> >
> > > 2 Yeah right,the guy plays 2000 games of the most hated halo(his opinion)for research so he can have a better understanding of the game when he comes on a forum to discuss it and make suggestions.I suppose all that knowledge is what made him come to the determination that the majority of reach players are irrelevant,and should not be considered when designing a video game.That make sense.(no it doesnt)
> >
> > ever considor he does actually enjoy the game but thinks and knows there is something wrong that should be adressed so he voicing his thoughts to help fix or make the game better?
> >
> >
> >
> > > 3 Oh the humanity,oh what an abject failure,what an insult to the halo brand puts back of hand to forehead how will the halo player ever be able to face the world knowing that it is in 5th place in the world?Thats it you conviced me,it was the hype,all this time I thought I was having fun playing a sweet video game(thanks bungie,seriously)but really I had the out of balanced,overpowered wool pulled over my eyes.Im going to go play CoD…No Im not,its slayer time
> >
> > nice sarcasm.
>
> 1st point,you are not considering real world factors that affect gameplay,distarction,fatigue,brain farts,etc.You imagine it as an unwavering perfectly consistant scenerio where the “better player” will never faulter and the player that is not good will never have a moment of brilliant gameplay,who is setting up an awfuul and unbalenced scenerio?
i was using the scenario you presented in real world applications.
if a person is tired or distracted then at the time he currently is not the better player.
player generated luck cannot be avoided either, people will get that burst of brilliance but they won’t be-able to maintain.
player generated luck = good, game controlled luck = bad.
> 2nd point,I would consider that,but read the post I was responding to,and tell me you hear one once of enjoyment,frankly it sounds like he is talking about an exwife.
it sounded how i described it to me, i guess it depends on peoples point of view
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> 3rd thank you,sarcasim is my speciality.(<sincerity)(<sarcasim)(<JK sincerity LOL)
you don’t post on b.net anymoresad face
> > > I liked Reach the way it was when it came out, when armor lock was useful and you had to pace your shots, but I see the need to create a CE playlist for CEA’s multiplayer.
> >
> > armour lock is still usefull post TU, it just requires actual thought and teamwork now, you didn’t need to pace your shots either, as long as your reticule is red you could spam and win the majority of the time.
>
> armor lock has been nerfed and removed from playlists so many times it’s barely useful in or not available in FFA/Team Games.
> and at long ranges you did have to pace your shots.
armour lock is still usefull, it just requires teamwork and some actual thought process to use it successfully, i think plunderfull can agree on this…
with bloom, as long as my reticule is red i don’t need to wait for my reticule to fully reset, when my reticule isn’t red then i have to wait.
> > > > > If 343i is actually dumb enough to change Reach completely I will have lost all faith in them. Who do you think would be more pissed off? The people who where dumb enough to buy something they don’t like, or the the people who bought a game they liked completely and had it changed? I bet people who like any of the previous Halo games would be pissed off if that happened to their games, and I would too! Adding stuff is fine, but Reach stays as I and many others bought it.
> > > >
> > > > We are all a part of the community, and the community owns Halo.
> > > >
> > > > If the vocal majority hates the game, then obviously something is wrong with it. It;s dumb for people to buy a game they know they hate, but obviously we’ve bought it long before we had a solid opinion on it. Furthermore, it’s even dumber for 343 to ignore the large amount of vocal complaints. Someone might be fine with it, but the vocal majority isn’t. And when the vocal majority seems to despise a game, that’s a hint for developers to get their Yoink! fixed.
> > >
> > > Yeah that’s fine for people to complain. However, 343i has listened and given you a peace offering. Take it and leave the rest of Reach alone.
> >
> > so instead of having a fixed game we should have a broken game?
> >
> > uh… no.
>
> Reach is not broken!
343 says otherwise.
> > > > > > If 343i is actually dumb enough to change Reach completely I will have lost all faith in them. Who do you think would be more pissed off? The people who where dumb enough to buy something they don’t like, or the the people who bought a game they liked completely and had it changed? I bet people who like any of the previous Halo games would be pissed off if that happened to their games, and I would too! Adding stuff is fine, but Reach stays as I and many others bought it.
> > > > >
> > > > > We are all a part of the community, and the community owns Halo.
> > > > >
> > > > > If the vocal majority hates the game, then obviously something is wrong with it. It;s dumb for people to buy a game they know they hate, but obviously we’ve bought it long before we had a solid opinion on it. Furthermore, it’s even dumber for 343 to ignore the large amount of vocal complaints. Someone might be fine with it, but the vocal majority isn’t. And when the vocal majority seems to despise a game, that’s a hint for developers to get their Yoink! fixed.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah that’s fine for people to complain. However, 343i has listened and given you a peace offering. Take it and leave the rest of Reach alone.
> > >
> > > so instead of having a fixed game we should have a broken game?
> > >
> > > uh… no.
> >
> > Reach is not broken!
>
> got any evidence or reasoning behind such a bold statement?
>
> things that do not work as intended are broken
> bloom doesn’t work as intended - broken
> forge snapping doesn’t work as intended - broken
> gaus hog shooting through walls - broken
>
> other things are pretty un-balanced:
> armour lock
> jetpack(more maps then anything though)
> banshee bomb
> tank
> grenades(this is more with movement charecteristics)
>
> are you sure default reach isn’t broken?
bloom worked - not broken
forge snapping works - not broken
gaus hog shooting through walls - proof needed
other things that people don’t know how to counter:
armor lock
jetpack
banshee bomb
tank
grenades
I stand by my claim, Reach is not broken
> I know there are <mark>a lot</mark> of longtime Halo fans that hate vanilla Reach.
> because of a vocal <mark>minority</mark>.
Lolwut?
> > > > > > > > If 343i is actually dumb enough to change Reach completely I will have lost all faith in them. Who do you think would be more pissed off? The people who where dumb enough to buy something they don’t like, or the the people who bought a game they liked completely and had it changed? I bet people who like any of the previous Halo games would be pissed off if that happened to their games, and I would too! Adding stuff is fine, but Reach stays as I and many others bought it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We are all a part of the community, and the community owns Halo.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If the vocal majority hates the game, then obviously something is wrong with it. It;s dumb for people to buy a game they know they hate, but obviously we’ve bought it long before we had a solid opinion on it. Furthermore, it’s even dumber for 343 to ignore the large amount of vocal complaints. Someone might be fine with it, but the vocal majority isn’t. And when the vocal majority seems to despise a game, that’s a hint for developers to get their Yoink! fixed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah that’s fine for people to complain. However, 343i has listened and given you a peace offering. Take it and leave the rest of Reach alone.
> > > > >
> > > > > so instead of having a fixed game we should have a broken game?
> > > > >
> > > > > uh… no.
> > > >
> > > > Reach is not broken!
> > >
> > > got any evidence or reasoning behind such a bold statement?
> > >
> > > things that do not work as intended are broken
> > > bloom doesn’t work as intended - broken
> > > forge snapping doesn’t work as intended - broken
> > > gaus hog shooting through walls - broken
> > >
> > > other things are pretty un-balanced:
> > > armour lock
> > > jetpack(more maps then anything though)
> > > banshee bomb
> > > tank
> > > grenades(this is more with movement charecteristics)
> > >
> > > are you sure default reach isn’t broken?
> >
> > bloom worked - not broken
> > forge snapping works - not broken
> > gaus hog shooting through walls - proof needed
> >
> > other things that people don’t know how to counter:
> > armor lock
> > jetpack
> > banshee bomb
> > tank
> > grenades
> >
> > I stand by my claim, Reach is not broken
>
> - bloom doesn’t work, 343i themselves have admitted this.
> - with forge snapping, when grabbing objects or going in to edit cooridnates the object rotates, this sometimes will kill you aswell and this wasn’t intended.
> - the gauss hog does shoot through walls, [/url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20kHjRenZjM]video, why do you think it isn’t in matchmaking?
>
> - armour lock was too usefull compared to other armour abilities, it’s not that people can’t counter it, it’s that un-balanced compared to other armour abilties.
> - jetpack, the main problem is that people don’t want to look up but because of poor map design it gives to user to much of an advantage.
> - banshee bomb, try avoiding that thing, the splash damage is bigger and stronger then a rocket launcher.
> - grenades blast radious is to big and are to hard to avoid, if the movement acceleration was faster then there wouldn’t be an issue with grenades.
> - tank, fire rate is to fast and you can snipe people cross map with it…
> > > > I liked Reach the way it was when it came out, when armor lock was useful and you had to pace your shots, but I see the need to create a CE playlist for CEA’s multiplayer.
> > >
> > > armour lock is still usefull post TU, it just requires actual thought and teamwork now, you didn’t need to pace your shots either, as long as your reticule is red you could spam and win the majority of the time.
> >
> > armor lock has been nerfed and removed from playlists so many times it’s barely useful in or not available in FFA/Team Games.
> > and at long ranges you did have to pace your shots.
>
> armour lock is still usefull, it just requires teamwork and some actual thought process to use it successfully, i think plunderfull can agree on this…
> with bloom, as long as my reticule is red i don’t need to wait for my reticule to fully reset, when my reticule isn’t red then i have to wait.
That would be at a long range
ok then, armor lock does not work well.
> > > > > I liked Reach the way it was when it came out, when armor lock was useful and you had to pace your shots, but I see the need to create a CE playlist for CEA’s multiplayer.
> > > >
> > > > armour lock is still usefull post TU, it just requires actual thought and teamwork now, you didn’t need to pace your shots either, as long as your reticule is red you could spam and win the majority of the time.
> > >
> > > armor lock has been nerfed and removed from playlists so many times it’s barely useful in or not available in FFA/Team Games.
> > > and at long ranges you did have to pace your shots.
> >
> > armour lock is still usefull, it just requires teamwork and some actual thought process to use it successfully, i think plunderfull can agree on this…
> > with bloom, as long as my reticule is red i don’t need to wait for my reticule to fully reset, when my reticule isn’t red then i have to wait.
>
> That would be at a long range
>
>
> ok then, armor lock does not work well.
but at mid range spamming was meant to be punnished aswell, i’ve also be cross map spammed on hemorrhage, it’s anoying as hell.
Keep it clean.
There’s no reason for insults.
> > > > > > > > > If 343i is actually dumb enough to change Reach completely I will have lost all faith in them. Who do you think would be more pissed off? The people who where dumb enough to buy something they don’t like, or the the people who bought a game they liked completely and had it changed? I bet people who like any of the previous Halo games would be pissed off if that happened to their games, and I would too! Adding stuff is fine, but Reach stays as I and many others bought it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We are all a part of the community, and the community owns Halo.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If the vocal majority hates the game, then obviously something is wrong with it. It;s dumb for people to buy a game they know they hate, but obviously we’ve bought it long before we had a solid opinion on it. Furthermore, it’s even dumber for 343 to ignore the large amount of vocal complaints. Someone might be fine with it, but the vocal majority isn’t. And when the vocal majority seems to despise a game, that’s a hint for developers to get their Yoink! fixed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yeah that’s fine for people to complain. However, 343i has listened and given you a peace offering. Take it and leave the rest of Reach alone.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > so instead of having a fixed game we should have a broken game?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > uh… no.
> > > > >
> > > > > Reach is not broken!
> > > >
> > > > got any evidence or reasoning behind such a bold statement?
> > > >
> > > > things that do not work as intended are broken
> > > > bloom doesn’t work as intended - broken
> > > > forge snapping doesn’t work as intended - broken
> > > > gaus hog shooting through walls - broken
> > > >
> > > > other things are pretty un-balanced:
> > > > armour lock
> > > > jetpack(more maps then anything though)
> > > > banshee bomb
> > > > tank
> > > > grenades(this is more with movement charecteristics)
> > > >
> > > > are you sure default reach isn’t broken?
> > >
> > > bloom worked - not broken
> > > forge snapping works - not broken
> > > gaus hog shooting through walls - proof needed
> > >
> > > other things that people don’t know how to counter:
> > > armor lock
> > > jetpack
> > > banshee bomb
> > > tank
> > > grenades
> > >
> > > I stand by my claim, Reach is not broken
> >
> > - bloom doesn’t work, 343i themselves have admitted this.
> > - with forge snapping, when grabbing objects or going in to edit cooridnates the object rotates, this sometimes will kill you aswell and this wasn’t intended.
> > - the gauss hog does shoot through walls, [/url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20kHjRenZjM]video, why do you think it isn’t in matchmaking?
> >
> > - armour lock was too usefull compared to other armour abilities, it’s not that people can’t counter it, it’s that un-balanced compared to other armour abilties.
> > - jetpack, the main problem is that people don’t want to look up but because of poor map design it gives to user to much of an advantage.
> > - banshee bomb, try avoiding that thing, the splash damage is bigger and stronger then a rocket launcher.
> > - grenades blast radious is to big and are to hard to avoid, if the movement acceleration was faster then there wouldn’t be an issue with grenades.
> > - tank, fire rate is to fast and you can snipe people cross map with it…
>
> 1. well then what was it suposed to do, and where did it fail???
> 2.I guess if your that careless i could happen
> 3.i’ll have to test that, but every game has gliches does that mean very game is broken???
>
>
> 4.-8.so basicly people don’t know how to counter it.
> Keep it clean.
>
> There’s no reason for insults.
understood.
> > > > > > I liked Reach the way it was when it came out, when armor lock was useful and you had to pace your shots, but I see the need to create a CE playlist for CEA’s multiplayer.
> > > > >
> > > > > armour lock is still usefull post TU, it just requires actual thought and teamwork now, you didn’t need to pace your shots either, as long as your reticule is red you could spam and win the majority of the time.
> > > >
> > > > armor lock has been nerfed and removed from playlists so many times it’s barely useful in or not available in FFA/Team Games.
> > > > and at long ranges you did have to pace your shots.
> > >
> > > armour lock is still usefull, it just requires teamwork and some actual thought process to use it successfully, i think plunderfull can agree on this…
> > > with bloom, as long as my reticule is red i don’t need to wait for my reticule to fully reset, when my reticule isn’t red then i have to wait.
> >
> > That would be at a long range
> >
> >
> > ok then, armor lock does not work well.
>
> but at mid range spamming was meant to be punnished aswell, i’ve also be cross map spammed on hemorrhage, it’s anoying as hell.
1.it’s a persision weapon 2.what wepon did you “cross map” with
> > > > > > > > > > If 343i is actually dumb enough to change Reach completely I will have lost all faith in them. Who do you think would be more pissed off? The people who where dumb enough to buy something they don’t like, or the the people who bought a game they liked completely and had it changed? I bet people who like any of the previous Halo games would be pissed off if that happened to their games, and I would too! Adding stuff is fine, but Reach stays as I and many others bought it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > We are all a part of the community, and the community owns Halo.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If the vocal majority hates the game, then obviously something is wrong with it. It;s dumb for people to buy a game they know they hate, but obviously we’ve bought it long before we had a solid opinion on it. Furthermore, it’s even dumber for 343 to ignore the large amount of vocal complaints. Someone might be fine with it, but the vocal majority isn’t. And when the vocal majority seems to despise a game, that’s a hint for developers to get their Yoink! fixed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yeah that’s fine for people to complain. However, 343i has listened and given you a peace offering. Take it and leave the rest of Reach alone.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > so instead of having a fixed game we should have a broken game?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > uh… no.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Reach is not broken!
> > > > >
> > > > > got any evidence or reasoning behind such a bold statement?
> > > > >
> > > > > things that do not work as intended are broken
> > > > > bloom doesn’t work as intended - broken
> > > > > forge snapping doesn’t work as intended - broken
> > > > > gaus hog shooting through walls - broken
> > > > >
> > > > > other things are pretty un-balanced:
> > > > > armour lock
> > > > > jetpack(more maps then anything though)
> > > > > banshee bomb
> > > > > tank
> > > > > grenades(this is more with movement charecteristics)
> > > > >
> > > > > are you sure default reach isn’t broken?
> > > >
> > > > bloom worked - not broken
> > > > forge snapping works - not broken
> > > > gaus hog shooting through walls - proof needed
> > > >
> > > > other things that people don’t know how to counter:
> > > > armor lock
> > > > jetpack
> > > > banshee bomb
> > > > tank
> > > > grenades
> > > >
> > > > I stand by my claim, Reach is not broken
> > >
> > > - bloom doesn’t work, 343i themselves have admitted this.
> > > - with forge snapping, when grabbing objects or going in to edit cooridnates the object rotates, this sometimes will kill you aswell and this wasn’t intended.
> > > - the gauss hog does shoot through walls, video, why do you think it isn’t in matchmaking?
> > >
> > > - armour lock was too usefull compared to other armour abilities, it’s not that people can’t counter it, it’s that un-balanced compared to other armour abilties.
> > > - jetpack, the main problem is that people don’t want to look up but because of poor map design it gives to user to much of an advantage.
> > > - banshee bomb, try avoiding that thing, the splash damage is bigger and stronger then a rocket launcher.
> > > - grenades blast radious is to big and are to hard to avoid, if the movement acceleration was faster then there wouldn’t be an issue with grenades.
> > > - tank, fire rate is to fast and you can snipe people cross map with it…
> >
> > 1. well then what was it suposed to do, and where did it fail???
bloom was ment to punnish spammers and reward pacers, currently it is the other way around.
> 2.I guess if your that careless i could happen
it isn’t carelessness, it’s the object rotating that pushes through walls or in to the water which is out of your controll, i’ve been close to an object to get a better view of its position, grabbed it and go thrown through the wall and dead.
> 3.i’ll have to test that, but every game has gliches does that mean very game is broken???
there is actually a gametype and map built around this glitch, it’s called battle ships, it’s good for a bit of fun.
glitches doesn’t mean the game is broken unless the glitches gameplay.
> 4.-8.so basicly people don’t know how to counter it.
you didn’t read what i wrote did you?
i never said it’s an issue to do with being able to counter, it’s an issue with being over powered and or un-balanced, just because it’s counter able doesn’t mean it isn’t overpowered or unbalanced.
> 1.it’s a persision weapon
ok but bloom makes it none precision weapon and turns it in to a randomness weapon.
> 2.what wepon did you “cross map” with
dmr and needle rifle firing at max rate of fire while the reticule wasn’t red, i was hiding behind a rock waiting for him to run out of aim at first but the spread was extremely small for that distance, when he reloaded i started on him but he spammed back at me and 1-3 shots was hitting me knocking me out of scope every time and he won while spamming cross map vs pace.
i’ve had simulair instances where i’ve come out on top by scoping in and quickly firing to get the advantage and win.