One of the most frustrating situations for my friend and I when playing online is the appearance of the same maps that we played in the previous match, sometimes with the same game modes too (but that’s a rare occasion). Especially in the BTB playlist, your chances of playing the same map seem high despite the community forge update that added about 6 maps to the playlist, which makes this situation even more frustrating to deal with. Because halo 5 automatically breaks up the lobby when the game is finished, it can’t keep track of the games that everyone played before they’re joined together, creating this random chance of how the maps will be chosen within the rotation.
What I am asking for 343 to implement is a map veto option, a perfect balance between the players having too much control of what they want to play (a map voting option), and no control of what they want to play (the system currently in place). When the maximum number of players in a lobby are locked and set, the map and game mode should be presented on the screen (with real screenshots of the maps in the BTB playlist besides the stupid forge canvases), and players should be given 10 seconds for whether they want to veto the map and game mode or not. At least half of the players in the lobby needs to do this (and 343 can adjust the numbers if needed) before the system is activated. If this happens, then the game will randomize the next map and game mode chosen for the match, and that selection will be final.
Do you support this map veto system? Leave your comments below and see what could be improved based on my description of such a system.
map veto would be fine, but even 343 wants people to play newer maps since they have a greater chance of coming up in a playlist. So this would go against their initial plan.
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> map veto would be fine, but even 343 wants people to play newer maps since they have a greater chance of coming up in a playlist. So this would go against their initial plan.
Where exactly did you draw this conclusion from? Could you give a source that links to this claim?
I hated the veto more than I hated the voting option.
Just stick with the random selection and get us into games faster.
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> I hated the veto more than I hated the voting option.
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> Just stick with the random selection and get us into games faster.
What makes you hate a veto more than a voting option? There is no use of loading us into games we don’t want to play, so it’s worth sparing a little more time so that people can possibly enjoy the map they play next.
and how would it be different with a veto system?
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> and how would it be different with a veto system?
You are given enough control to help decide whether you want to play the current map and game mode, which is useful for people who hate playing certain maps or people who just played that map in their previous game. But it isn’t like they will be given full control of what they want to play. Please read my full OP before commenting please.
I’m happy with the random draw as each map dictates a different play style. My issue with either a vote or veto system is that I could potentially miss maps I like due to other players choices while extending the wait between games. Random draw is fair for all.
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> I’m happy with the random draw as each map dictates a different play style. My issue with either a vote or veto system is that I could potentially miss maps I like due to other players choices while extending the wait between games. Random draw is fair for all.
Well I’d rather not have players quit the game on their xbox for not having a say in what they want to play. Again, 343 can adjust the amount of people needed to veto a selection so that maps won’t be easily switched.
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> What makes you hate a veto more than a voting option? There is no use of loading us into games we don’t want to play, so it’s worth sparing a little more time so that people can possibly enjoy the map they play next.
Vetoing is just as random as the option in place with the potential to get an even worse selection. The moments of “hh this is map is middle of the road let’s veto to get a better one…oh great this maps is the worst” far outweighs the benefits to me. Seemed like everyone was voting with the hopes of getting the best map/gametype a playlist had to offer, and it frequently led to lesser choices.
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> > I’m happy with the random draw as each map dictates a different play style. My issue with either a vote or veto system is that I could potentially miss maps I like due to other players choices while extending the wait between games. Random draw is fair for all.
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> Well I’d rather not have players quit the game on their xbox for not having a say in what they want to play. Again, 343 can adjust the amount of people needed to veto a selection so that maps won’t be easily switched.
That sounds like a decent compromise. If people really do quit because of the choice of map I think they may need to reevaluate their lives 
I think maybe instead of just putting a veto option, but map voting as well, so that there are more options, but also randomize the choice of gametypes with each map for BTB/TA, (like Halo 4 did).
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> > > I’m happy with the random draw as each map dictates a different play style. My issue with either a vote or veto system is that I could potentially miss maps I like due to other players choices while extending the wait between games. Random draw is fair for all.
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> That sounds like a decent compromise. If people really do quit because of the choice of map I think they may need to reevaluate their lives
Maps like antifreeze in BTB make me understand the mentality of those players, especially when they can get away with it by quitting on the Xbox home page before the game starts.
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> > > I hated the veto more than I hated the voting option.
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> Vetoing is just as random as the option in place with the potential to get an even worse selection. The moments of “hh this is map is middle of the road let’s veto to get a better one…oh great this maps is the worst” far outweighs the benefits to me. Seemed like everyone was voting with the hopes of getting the best map/gametype a playlist had to offer, and it frequently led to lesser choices.
With the number of maps available in most playlists, there doesn’t seem to be much of a chance in you getting a map worse than what you already have. I can see how it’s a problem, which is why 343 should attempt implementing a fixed halo map rotation in the game, or allow the lobby to remain together with the same players after a game ends instead of simply breaking everyone apart so that the system can then keep track of what maps were played previously and adjust accordingly.
In arena… sure there are probably enough maps to support it… but not in warzone there is only 4 maps so a veto would most certainly lead to playing on the same maps way way more often.
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> In arena… sure there are probably enough maps to support it… but not in warzone there is only 4 maps so a veto would most certainly lead to playing on the same maps way way more often.
Probably, not every game mode needs to have w veto option if there’s not enough maps to support the playlist. I am mostly referring to arena playlists like BTB, with a lot of maps to play.
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> > In arena… sure there are probably enough maps to support it… but not in warzone there is only 4 maps so a veto would most certainly lead to playing on the same maps way way more often.
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> Probably, not every game mode needs to have w veto option if there’s not enough maps to support the playlist. I am mostly referring to arena playlists like BTB, with a lot of maps to play.
I would love to see it in btb because I am sure I am not the only one SICK of antifreeze the worse btb map ever not to mention I have very very rarely seen the community made maps. Only have played Viking twice and the sandtrap remake maybe three times.
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> > > In arena… sure there are probably enough maps to support it… but not in warzone there is only 4 maps so a veto would most certainly lead to playing on the same maps way way more often.
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> I would love to see it in btb because I am sure I am not the only one SICK of antifreeze the worse btb map ever not to mention I have very very rarely seen the community made maps. Only have played Viking twice and the sandtrap remake maybe three times.
For me, I’m getting tired of playing Scavenger so excessively, but I hate playing Antifreeze as much as you do probably.
I grow tired of these repetitive tropes.
No, it will become like the MCC, where people only choose that crappy Halo 3 multiplayer. The campaign is great, the multiplayer however sucks (in my opinion)