The banhammer targets AFK-ers pretty well, but the AFK-ers have adjusted their tactics. Instead of getting zero kills, they get one or two kills, and then hide for the rest of the game. This little work around needs to be squashed.
Would it be possible to integrate an idle boot option (like CoD)? Or adjust the banhammer to look out for this tactic?
Or how about adjusting the credit payouts? Reduce the complete game bonus, and increasing the performance bonus?
Yes - it needs attention if possible.
If they don’t contribute at least 10% towards the final score (4 player) or 25% (2 player) perhaps their game complete bonus gets greatly reduced?
Unless Reach’s credit system is rewritten to make it so there is no credits awarded for time played in a game and buff up how much one makes for commendations, I fear AFK-ers will still plague Reach and it’s matchmaking. However, they could always boot a player from a game if they have been idle for a certain amount of time and return them to the game lobby waiting for the player to start up again, such as ten minutes. If you’re taking longer than that, you must be doing something that is going to occupy your time for a long time and therefore a boot from one game is not going to hurt you. Then again, it is not a solid plan and can still be exploited.
I guess for the time being they are here to stay.
> Unless Reach’s credit system is rewritten to make it so there is no credits awarded for time played in a game and buff up how much one makes for commendations, I fear AFK-ers will still plague Reach and it’s matchmaking. However, they could always boot a player from a game if they have been idle for a certain amount of time and return them to the game lobby waiting for the player to start up again, such as ten minutes. If you’re taking longer than that, you must be doing something that is going to occupy your time for a long time and therefore a boot from one game is not going to hurt you. Then again, it is not a solid plan and can still be exploited.
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> I guess for the time being they are here to stay.
If you remember back to the release, the did amend the payouts in gruntpocolypse, so I think it is possible to adjust the payouts. That may be easier than adding a new function, like a idle boot option.
> > Unless Reach’s credit system is rewritten to make it so there is no credits awarded for time played in a game and buff up how much one makes for commendations, I fear AFK-ers will still plague Reach and it’s matchmaking. However, they could always boot a player from a game if they have been idle for a certain amount of time and return them to the game lobby waiting for the player to start up again, such as ten minutes. If you’re taking longer than that, you must be doing something that is going to occupy your time for a long time and therefore a boot from one game is not going to hurt you. Then again, it is not a solid plan and can still be exploited.
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> > I guess for the time being they are here to stay.
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> If you remember back to the release, the did amend the payouts in gruntpocolypse, so I think it is possible to adjust the payouts. That may be easier than adding a new function, like a idle boot option.
True it would be possible if they have done so before, but again they have to increase the amount in other areas in order to balance out the loss. Kills, medals, and commendations should be increased in order to make people want to participate rather than just sit around. Perhaps they can associate rank with how much is earned with kills and medals.
> > > Unless Reach’s credit system is rewritten to make it so there is no credits awarded for time played in a game and buff up how much one makes for commendations, I fear AFK-ers will still plague Reach and it’s matchmaking. However, they could always boot a player from a game if they have been idle for a certain amount of time and return them to the game lobby waiting for the player to start up again, such as ten minutes. If you’re taking longer than that, you must be doing something that is going to occupy your time for a long time and therefore a boot from one game is not going to hurt you. Then again, it is not a solid plan and can still be exploited.
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> > > I guess for the time being they are here to stay.
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> > If you remember back to the release, the did amend the payouts in gruntpocolypse, so I think it is possible to adjust the payouts. That may be easier than adding a new function, like a idle boot option.
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> True it would be possible if they have done so before, but again they have to increase the amount in other areas in order to balance out the loss. Kills, medals, and commendations should be increased in order to make people want to participate rather than just sit around. Perhaps they can associate rank with how much is earned with kills and medals.
They sort of already do that now. The payouts do increase with rank. Decreasing the “game complete bonus” will discourage being AFK, and increasing the “performance bonus” will foster participation.
> Yes - it needs attention if possible.
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> If they don’t contribute at least 10% towards the final score (4 player) or 25% (2 player) perhaps their game complete bonus gets greatly reduced?
Great idea, but maybe 15% for two player?
Had this problem numerous times. Me and my mate had two AFKers in one match which really did our nut over the principle but we used to our advantage (we used them as meat shields, lol). After that match we had another AFKer, then another.
We gave up for the evening.
If someone is AFK for more than two minutes auto kick, 30 minute ban, no credits earnt, and fill the position with another player looking for a Firefight match.
If you have real life to worry about, to the point where you may ruin the enjoyment of the game for others, you shouldn’t be playing in the first place.
If you can’t dedicate a little time toward helping your team (and yourself) achieve a goal then we don’t want you bringing us down.
343i needs to do a mass rank reset just like bungie did. Any one with games w/ 20 or less kills will automatically get rank reset.
Same with full party idle boosting, they need to reset every one who has done that as well.
But OT - We can blame the weekly challenge for more AFKers this week, the challenge basically promotes AFKing.
> 343i needs to do a mass rank reset just like bungie did. Any one with games w/ 20 or less kills will automatically get rank reset.
That’s slightly harsh, maybe 10+ games with 10 kills or less? Otherwise almost anyone who’s played a bit of FF will end up reset. I know I’ve done 1 or 2 AFK games purely by accident (and I barely play FF)
Bungie left 343 with quite a headache with this credit system. No matter what you do, credit farmers will find a way to game the system and get their cR. We have another 15 months of this until Halo 4 comes out.
I don’t care how they farm their credits as long as they don’t ruin other peoples games. It’s hardly a representation of skill. 343 need to understand this seems Bungie did not.
What does AFK Stand for?
> What does AFK Stand for?
Away From Keyboard (or away from controller) meaning someone who’s not active/participating in the game.
Well you could get into a really good semi-casual clan. It helps me get rid of the randoms.
> Well you could get into a really good semi-casual clan. It helps me get rid of the randoms.
You could, but you shouldn’t have to in this day and age of gaming.
> > 343i needs to do a mass rank reset just like bungie did. Any one with games w/ 20 or less kills will automatically get rank reset.
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> That’s slightly harsh, maybe 10+ games with 10 kills or less? Otherwise almost anyone who’s played a bit of FF will end up reset. I know I’ve done 1 or 2 AFK games purely by accident (and I barely play FF)
It needs to be harsh and swift. Otherwise nothing will be learned. Unfair? Possibly. Justified? Yes. You’re purposely and habitually cheating. Send a warning message that pops up (like the super jackpot announcement) that AFK-ers will be dealt with swiftly and harshly. Then, no matter what the punishment, no one can saw they weren’t warned.
They need to give us a way to report the cheaters. Moreover, they need to deal with the griefers too. I’m tired of -Yoinks!- that just shoot you in the face with the fuel rod the whole game. I’d rather them AFK.
> They need to give us a way to report the cheaters. Moreover, they need to deal with the griefers too. I’m tired of Yoink! that just shoot you in the face with the fuel rod the whole game. I’d rather them AFK.
The worse ones are those who deliberately stand in front of you causing you to suicide, or blocking your aim with a Sniper Rifle, on purpose.