Please Allow Us to Switch Weapons While Clambering

I find that on Truth especially, I’d like to be able to switch weapons while clambering up to the Prophet’s Bane so that I can be ready to pick it up as my secondary weapon all in one fluid motion without having to pause or switch up my primary weapon beforehand–you know, just in case I have to shoot with my primary as I approach the sword. Anybody with me? Would this be game breaking? Would it be an improvement? What are your thoughts?

I think a Spartan would be able to do this.

Yeah, it feels kinda clumsy when I hit change weapon mid clamber and I pop up with the same weapon as I had before. I’ll agree with this one :slight_smile:

Switch your weapon before you clamber?

That could work too, although I still feel like the game would feel more fluid if you could change weapon whilst clambering. Perhaps it was a design intention?

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> I think a Spartan would be able to do this.

How, actually, would a spartan accomplish switching weapons while one had is indisposed climbing up a ledge?

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The moment you start trying to talk about what’s realistic in a video game featuring cyborg supersoldiers who for some reason aren’t allowed to run as fast they should be able to run canonically (which is to say faster than most vehicles can drive), your argument has failed.

It’s not about what’s realistic. It’s about what makes good gameplay. Good point, OP.

If clamber is going to replace crouch jumping, then at least make it so that we can still swap weapons as normal as if we were crouch jumping.

LOL Go try and climb something and in mid climb holster your gun and pull out a rifle. See how that works for you.

Seriously how can even a spartan holster a gun and pull out another one while he is climbing using his hands. Spartans aren’t Machamps

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> LOL Go try and climb something and in mid climb holster your gun and pull out a rifle. See how that works for you.
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> Seriously how can even a spartan holster a gun and pull out another one while he is climbing using his hands. Spartans aren’t Machamps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOSnhhWcukk#t=2m28s What’s realistic doesn’t hold water as an argument in video games unless you’re talking about a simulator. Halo is not a simulator.

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> LOL Go try and climb something and in mid climb holster your gun and pull out a rifle. See how that works for you.
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Maybe spartans have a third arm?

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> Maybe spartans have a third arm?

Sees Vivid image of said Spartan 3rd arm cycling through guns

I want to gouge my eyes out now

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> > LOL Go try and climb something and in mid climb holster your gun and pull out a rifle. See how that works for you.
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> Sunset Overdrive - E3-Trailer und Gameplay - YouTube What’s realistic doesn’t hold water as an argument in video games unless you’re talking about a simulator. Halo is not a simulator.

There are boundaries between what is acceptable to alter canonically, and what is acceptable to alter logically. The game mechanic you are asking for would simply break that logic, by disobeying the laws of physics. Human super-soldiers are not unrealistic, but they are as of this moment still fiction. Halo still obeys logical physics within the realm of it’s own limits (including things such as slipspace ruptures and plasma weapons), and making it possible to do something entirely impossible is game breaking. Have you noticed they have increased the time it takes to switch weapons and to zoom in? They did this because they felt it was unrealistic for previous Halo game’s spartans to be able to do this so quickly. There is no possible reason why they would ever implement this mechanic of clambering while switching weapons. Besides, it is just as easy to tap Y just before you jump.

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> > LOL Go try and climb something and in mid climb holster your gun and pull out a rifle. See how that works for you.
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOSnhhWcukk#t=2m28s What’s realistic doesn’t hold water as an argument in video games unless you’re talking about a simulator. Halo is not a simulator.

Dude we understand it is just a game but just because it is a game doesn’t mean it shouldn’t still hold some realistic qualities. It adds absolutely nothing to the game being able to switch weapons while clambering. Like others have said why can’t you just siwtch weapons before climbing? I’m an above average player and I can’t think of any reason why I would need to switch a weapon mid clamber. if you are going to climb into a place where you know an enemy is you should probably pull out your weapon BEFORE you climb. It is that simple

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> > > LOL Go try and climb something and in mid climb holster your gun and pull out a rifle. See how that works for you.
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> Dude we understand it is just a game but just because it is a game doesn’t mean it shouldn’t still hold some realistic qualities. It adds absolutely nothing to the game being able to switch weapons while clambering. Like others have said why can’t you just siwtch weapons before climbing? I’m an above average player and I can’t think of any reason why I would need to switch a weapon mid clamber. if you are going to climb into a place where you know an enemy is you should probably pull out your weapon BEFORE you climb. It is that simple

Switching a weapon would make no sense like you have said. Also just because it is sci-fi doesn’t mean they shouldn’t just abandon all laws of physics. Like you said why can’t they switch before clambering. Honestly I’d also think it would be kind of game breaking to switch mid clamber.

Yes and along with clamber-weapon swapping lets make it so you can sprint and shoot at them same time too, and then make it so you can throw grenades while you reload! Screw it, make it so you can throw three grenades at the same time and also mount a 100x scope and added smoothie-maker attatchment to the BR through exclusive DLC.

No. Even clamber needs to have a “downside” to it.

Unless spartans have a third arm, it’s impossible lol. Now switching weapons while thrusting… that’s a different story…

It’s reasonable, and certainly possible to do this.

Great idea. It’s annoying as is. Just not fluid enough.

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> > > LOL Go try and climb something and in mid climb holster your gun and pull out a rifle. See how that works for you.
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> > Sunset Overdrive - E3-Trailer und Gameplay - YouTube What’s realistic doesn’t hold water as an argument in video games unless you’re talking about a simulator. Halo is not a simulator.
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> Dude we understand it is just a game but just because it is a game doesn’t mean it shouldn’t still hold some realistic qualities. It adds absolutely nothing to the game being able to switch weapons while clambering. Like others have said why can’t you just siwtch weapons before climbing? I’m an above average player and I can’t think of any reason why I would need to switch a weapon mid clamber. if you are going to climb into a place where you know an enemy is you should probably pull out your weapon BEFORE you climb. It is that simple

Actually it does bring something to the game. What if you fired your last shot and are in pursuit of a multi-kill and don’t have time to reload. Alternatively being able to switch weapons while clambering brings an element of deception that could be used for mind games. A sword is often easy to spot if it is currently out, but a sword that isn’t out is hard to spot. A player could clamber up with a battle rife and while the animation of clamber is in progress the user could switch to a sword creating a surprise for an opponent. The same swapping mechanic could be used for rockets and the sniper rifle with a similar effect.

As others have said Halo is a video-game. Realism should never dictate video-game mechanics. If realism is so important explain to me how these Spartans regenerate health? How do weapons and vehicles materialism on set timers? Why do Spartans re-spawn(do they all believe in reincarnation?)? Why do the aliens sometimes speak in English and then in some made up alien language? Why don’t the grunts form a union and start controlling the rest of the Covenant since they always seems to outnumber the others in the campaign? Why is it that guns in past halos could be moved by explosions without being destroyed? Where do explosive barrels come from and why are they on some of the Halo maps? Why is it that a Halo 2 sword never ran out of energy, but a Halo 4/5 sword depletes? What does a flag do and why do some Spartans capture them? Why would anyone juggle a flag since that would alert and enemy? As you can hopefully see Halo has never been a realistic experience.

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> It’s not about what’s realistic. It’s about what makes good gameplay. Good point, OP.
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> If clamber is going to replace crouch jumping, then at least make it so that we can still swap weapons as normal as if we were crouch jumping.

Just get rid of clamber and keep crouch jumping. If you’re going to have clamber then let us climb everything, not just certain ledges. You might as well add in wall jumping and Parkour maneuvers.