I wouldn’t doubt if it was already to late, and I’m pretty positive 343 wouldn’t see this any ways, but nonetheless I’m going to address my biggest concern and see what people think.
The thing that ruined Reach for me was the fact that I was FORCED to play a forge map 9/10 times if I wanted to play matchmaking. The forge world is awesome and I love playing creative maps but there are just some things that really bother me about this.
First of all I just feel overwhelmed with all the forge maps in matchmaking. When I get my three choices during the pregame voting process, it seems like a good amount of the time I have a decision between 3 forge maps and if you vote none of the above you end up with more forge maps. I just would like to play some original bungie/343 maps sometimes. The maps just aren’t fun to me. I feel like none of them are really set up for optimal play experience, and it just feels like chaos to me.
I have paid for all the downloadable content maps that have come out on reach and I don’t ever get to play them in matchmaking. The big outdoor map that came out on the most recent map pack seems like it is just such a great map and so do a lot of the other newer ones but I can’t even remember what they’re called because I don’t ever get any play time on them. I think it’s great to have forge maps, but I don’t think that they should be so prevalent in matchmaking that you never get to play the others.
Now I’m about done with my thoughts and I just want to say that I’m not trying to bash on the forge world maps; I just think that they should be toned down.
Now the reason I posted this in the Halo 4 forum is because I would like to see this change when Halo 4 rolls around. I really really like the look of the new maps and I want to be able to play them. I just hope that maybe they can make a separate playlist called Community maps, or forge world maps. Hopefully there is a small sliver of a chance that 343i might see this and take this into consideration, but really I want to know of the opinions and ideas of the community on these boards.
I agree with your last point with about every bone in my body. A community maps playlist is something I’ve wanted for a while. While I love playing on people’s maps, I also get really sick of them being thrown in the mix with the maps that come with the game due to the fact that-as you said-they’re always chosen and it can get a bit frustrating. Sometimes I’m in the mood for Forge maps, sometimes I’m not.
It can, if the maps aren’t done right. And they usually aren’t. Some of them have almost no atmosphere at all, they’re just a shell to run around on and kill people on. I like the atmosphere that the MM maps provide, which is why I prefer them sometimes.
On the flip side, when people do a map right, Forge maps can be incredible. The Forge maps in the Reach MM circulation are just awful, which now makes me wary of allowing custom maps into the main MM system from now on.
Agree 1001%
I want to play on original, astheticly pleasing and well designed maps.
Not to say that some of the forge maps don’t have well designed layouts… they’re just not the same though.
EDIT: Although it has to be said that all the maps shown so far are beautiful and look a lot of fun to play on. Also as mentioned below sure 343 said something about having no forge maps in matchmaking on release… maybe someone can find it (lazy)
> There would be nothing wrong with 1 map pulled from each of the 3 forge maps in Matchmaking. They’d still be unique environments then.
This!
1 or 2 woulnd’t be bad. Why I say 2 is because of Ravine. There are clearly two parts in that forge map. Other one is the green big area for BTB forge map variant and other would be that small forerunner structure for smaller teams (multi-team and 4vs4).
THIS THIS and THIS.
all agreed. It feel so bland after a while playing this map then a different version of this map where someone thought it would be cool to add a mancannon. then another one where someone took away a wall and added a lift. damn its the same map. any ways, original maps are always better. I Love maps with things that move like zanzibar in halo 2 and waterworks and ascension and all that good interactive stuff. Thats what made halo 2 really stand out. they put so much work into the matchmaking then after they set the bar so high that only an xbox360 game could surpass it, they stopped making it like that.
anyways im just venting.
I think this is what is wrong with Halo: Reach. The maps weren’t very good and then the playlists are flooded with forge maps which weren’t very good either. In my opinion, wide open maps with little to no cover, covered with heavy vehicles is not very fun.
A separate playlist or none at all would be a good idea.
