Player count and armor question

Big questions, indeed:

ARMOR CUSTOMIZATION QUESTION

> with each of the helmets below as part of the new Mk. VII armor core

Does this mean that I can’t wear helmets of the mark vii core with another core?

PLAYER COUNT QUESTION
Are we able to do 24 player custom game lobbies? Will BTB maps be available in custom games/forge?
This is the big worry for me. Halo 5 Warzone maps are not normally able to be played in custom games. You can’t have 24 player custom games in Halo 5, though the big mode supports it. Will BTB be set up in such a way that it cant be supported by forge and custom games?

Hopefully it will since theres no AI by default on BTB. it should count as a normal map. all theyre doing is raising the player limit.

To answer your question, the armour core is an updated Term for the chest piece. When you change your core, the chest, tech suit, super-diaper, upper arms, and legs are changed. That’s why the all the Reach themed armour look straight out of Reach.

You can still mix and match other bits of armour, like the helmet, gloves, knee pads, all that jazz.

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> To answer your question, the armour core is an updated Term for the chest piece. When you change your core, the chest, tech suit, super-diaper, upper arms, and legs are changed. That’s why the all the Reach themed armour look straight out of Reach.
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> You can still mix and match other bits of armour, like the helmet, gloves, knee pads, all that jazz.

I don’t think this is true, looking at all the armors and their attachments. Not one of the reach shoulders or helmets or any of the attachments are ever seen on the mk vii core, and vice versa for the new helmets/shoulders not being seen on the mk v(b) looking armor core.

This makes sense to the degree of thinking how these models fit together. Chest attachments that fit on the mk vii don’t line up with the mk v(b). Look at the samurai (Yoroi) armor core. That certainly will not fit the aesthetic of mk vii or mk v(b)

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> > To answer your question, the armour core is an updated Term for the chest piece. When you change your core, the chest, tech suit, super-diaper, upper arms, and legs are changed. That’s why the all the Reach themed armour look straight out of Reach.
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> > You can still mix and match other bits of armour, like the helmet, gloves, knee pads, all that jazz.
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> I don’t think this is true, looking at all the armors and their attachments. Not one of the reach shoulders or helmets or any of the attachments are ever seen on the mk vii core, and vice versa for the new helmets/shoulders not being seen on the mk v(b) looking armor core.
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> This makes sense to the degree of thinking how these models fit together. Chest attachments that fit on the mk vii don’t line up with the mk v(b). Look at the samurai (Yoroi) armor core. That certainly will not fit the aesthetic of mk vii or mk v(b)

I mean, if having a specific armor core locks you out of using armor, that would significantly reduce the amount of customizing you would be able to do. Considering 343 is banking on customization as their main form of monetization, I highly, highly doubt they would limit it like that. There’s no incentive for them to do that.

Also, if that were the case, introducing new Armor Cores would be pointless because they would be limited to compatible pieces of the same set. The Yoroi set may not mix well with other pieces of armor, but that doesn’t mean you cant do that. That would be severely limiting and redundant, so it’s pretty safe to assume thats now how the customization system will not operate

Many of us have been wondering that same thing concerning armor. I believe it will be similar if not identical to the new MCC H3 system in which you can have ODST legs, H3 helmet, H4 chest etc.
That would be a really nice system to follow. The only problem I have with it currently is the inability to change the loin armor even after changing techsuit, chest, leg.

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> That would be a really nice system to follow. The only problem I have with it currently is the inability to change the loin armor even after changing techsuit, chest, leg.

From the looks of it, the Armor Core will change the underlying arm armor, torso(groin included), legs (aside from kneepads) and the techsuit. Then you can equip a chest armor, shoulder, helmet, kneepad, thigh utility, arm utility, and visor.

I did an #Ask343 about it. Hopefully it gets answered.

Since I have not seen (in pictures, will double check video soon) mixing of cores with other stuff, I’ll have to assume this is the case.

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> > > To answer your question, the armour core is an updated Term for the chest piece. When you change your core, the chest, tech suit, super-diaper, upper arms, and legs are changed. That’s why the all the Reach themed armour look straight out of Reach.
> > >
> > > You can still mix and match other bits of armour, like the helmet, gloves, knee pads, all that jazz.
> >
> > I don’t think this is true, looking at all the armors and their attachments. Not one of the reach shoulders or helmets or any of the attachments are ever seen on the mk vii core, and vice versa for the new helmets/shoulders not being seen on the mk v(b) looking armor core.
> >
> > This makes sense to the degree of thinking how these models fit together. Chest attachments that fit on the mk vii don’t line up with the mk v(b). Look at the samurai (Yoroi) armor core. That certainly will not fit the aesthetic of mk vii or mk v(b)
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> I mean, if having a specific armor core locks you out of using armor, that would significantly reduce the amount of customizing you would be able to do. Considering 343 is banking on customization as their main form of monetization, I highly, highly doubt they would limit it like that. There’s no incentive for them to do that.
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> Also, if that were the case, introducing new Armor Cores would be pointless because they would be limited to compatible pieces of the same set. The Yoroi set may not mix well with other pieces of armor, but that doesn’t mean you cant do that. That would be severely limiting and redundant, so it’s pretty safe to assume thats now how the customization system will not operate

there was no incentive for them to make halo 5 customization less than what we expected, but here we are haha

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> > > > To answer your question, the armour core is an updated Term for the chest piece. When you change your core, the chest, tech suit, super-diaper, upper arms, and legs are changed. That’s why the all the Reach themed armour look straight out of Reach.
> > > >
> > > > You can still mix and match other bits of armour, like the helmet, gloves, knee pads, all that jazz.
> > >
> > > I don’t think this is true, looking at all the armors and their attachments. Not one of the reach shoulders or helmets or any of the attachments are ever seen on the mk vii core, and vice versa for the new helmets/shoulders not being seen on the mk v(b) looking armor core.
> > >
> > > This makes sense to the degree of thinking how these models fit together. Chest attachments that fit on the mk vii don’t line up with the mk v(b). Look at the samurai (Yoroi) armor core. That certainly will not fit the aesthetic of mk vii or mk v(b)
> >
> > I mean, if having a specific armor core locks you out of using armor, that would significantly reduce the amount of customizing you would be able to do. Considering 343 is banking on customization as their main form of monetization, I highly, highly doubt they would limit it like that. There’s no incentive for them to do that.
> >
> > Also, if that were the case, introducing new Armor Cores would be pointless because they would be limited to compatible pieces of the same set. The Yoroi set may not mix well with other pieces of armor, but that doesn’t mean you cant do that. That would be severely limiting and redundant, so it’s pretty safe to assume thats now how the customization system will not operate
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> there was no incentive for them to make halo 5 customization less than what we expected, but here we are haha

Yes there was. By locking armor customization to sets and creating several skin variants of those sets, they could bloat the loot pool and get more longevity out of REQ packs. With how this new shader system works, thats a little harder to do. Not saying they wouldn’t try though

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> > > > > To answer your question, the armour core is an updated Term for the chest piece. When you change your core, the chest, tech suit, super-diaper, upper arms, and legs are changed. That’s why the all the Reach themed armour look straight out of Reach.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can still mix and match other bits of armour, like the helmet, gloves, knee pads, all that jazz.
> > > >
> > > > I don’t think this is true, looking at all the armors and their attachments. Not one of the reach shoulders or helmets or any of the attachments are ever seen on the mk vii core, and vice versa for the new helmets/shoulders not being seen on the mk v(b) looking armor core.
> > > >
> > > > This makes sense to the degree of thinking how these models fit together. Chest attachments that fit on the mk vii don’t line up with the mk v(b). Look at the samurai (Yoroi) armor core. That certainly will not fit the aesthetic of mk vii or mk v(b)
> > >
> > > I mean, if having a specific armor core locks you out of using armor, that would significantly reduce the amount of customizing you would be able to do. Considering 343 is banking on customization as their main form of monetization, I highly, highly doubt they would limit it like that. There’s no incentive for them to do that.
> > >
> > > Also, if that were the case, introducing new Armor Cores would be pointless because they would be limited to compatible pieces of the same set. The Yoroi set may not mix well with other pieces of armor, but that doesn’t mean you cant do that. That would be severely limiting and redundant, so it’s pretty safe to assume thats now how the customization system will not operate
> >
> > there was no incentive for them to make halo 5 customization less than what we expected, but here we are haha
>
> Yes there was. By locking armor customization to sets and creating several skin variants of those sets, they could bloat the loot pool and get more longevity out of REQ packs. With how this new shader system works, thats a little harder to do. Not saying they wouldn’t try though

wouldnt it make more sense to make more individual parts to ‘bloat the loot pool’? Could have made a lot more off of reqs if players only got the chest but not the shoulders out of a pack.

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> > > > > > To answer your question, the armour core is an updated Term for the chest piece. When you change your core, the chest, tech suit, super-diaper, upper arms, and legs are changed. That’s why the all the Reach themed armour look straight out of Reach.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can still mix and match other bits of armour, like the helmet, gloves, knee pads, all that jazz.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don’t think this is true, looking at all the armors and their attachments. Not one of the reach shoulders or helmets or any of the attachments are ever seen on the mk vii core, and vice versa for the new helmets/shoulders not being seen on the mk v(b) looking armor core.
> > > > >
> > > > > This makes sense to the degree of thinking how these models fit together. Chest attachments that fit on the mk vii don’t line up with the mk v(b). Look at the samurai (Yoroi) armor core. That certainly will not fit the aesthetic of mk vii or mk v(b)
> > > >
> > > > I mean, if having a specific armor core locks you out of using armor, that would significantly reduce the amount of customizing you would be able to do. Considering 343 is banking on customization as their main form of monetization, I highly, highly doubt they would limit it like that. There’s no incentive for them to do that.
> > > >
> > > > Also, if that were the case, introducing new Armor Cores would be pointless because they would be limited to compatible pieces of the same set. The Yoroi set may not mix well with other pieces of armor, but that doesn’t mean you cant do that. That would be severely limiting and redundant, so it’s pretty safe to assume thats now how the customization system will not operate
> > >
> > > there was no incentive for them to make halo 5 customization less than what we expected, but here we are haha
> >
> > Yes there was. By locking armor customization to sets and creating several skin variants of those sets, they could bloat the loot pool and get more longevity out of REQ packs. With how this new shader system works, thats a little harder to do. Not saying they wouldn’t try though
>
> wouldnt it make more sense to make more individual parts to ‘bloat the loot pool’? Could have made a lot more off of reqs if players only got the chest but not the shoulders out of a pack.

I dont disagree but you have to think about the response someone may have to paying $3 for a MTX to get a shoulder pad.

Ok, the ONLY thing I saw that could persuade me to believe you can mix with cores was a spartan in one of the videos wearing a mark v(b) core but with knee pads that are not from reach. So, I guess that’s sufficient to say that you can mix now, for evidence sake.