Player Count @ 37,203 Peak on Steam

Yes it does.
You want to use it to showcase that classic Halo isn’t popular to view.
Then you talk about massive updates and whatnot, but lose it when the same method is applied to you with Halo 5’s viewership.

You can’t ignore a “modern” game when you talk “modern games”, and by pretty much all accounts, Halo 5 is regarded to be a “modern game”.

And the thing we “slow and dishonest” people are attempting to latch onto is… What exactly?

Because that’s what you did.
“Uuuh, Halo needs to modernize with X and/or Y and Z uuh”
“Can’t look back, scary twitch numbers on MCC, no one watching”
Then goes “listen here you little…”
When the exact same thing you did, gets Uno reversed to you.

The entire point was to showcase what kind of change you don’t want to see. All the while explaining changes you want to see.

The instance you throw in some sort of number you open up for comparisons.
You don’t want to see a move towards classic, and justify that with a low viewership on MCC. Talking about more “modern” stuff to utilise. So how is it not relevant then to do the same for that? The viewership for the Halo game featuring most of what you want? Hm? Throwing a hissy fit over that is silly.

The thing you’ve concentrated on for the entirety of the discussion is this single thing.
While I’ve given other alternative means for “change” in the franchise, that you’ve conveniently ignored.
Nobody is saying Halo can’t change, there’s just a disagreement in what direction it needs to be taken, what kind of changes people want.
I can’t be wrong on something I personally want, neither can you.


Inb4 stuff like this so there can be a proper discussion:

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DAMN, mario superstar on STEAM? OML

Can anyone help me out with the last 24 HR peak?

39,372.

It’s to be expected though.

The player count is still down from last week.

Couldn’t find a more a better reply from, although this is older I do think its the best one you made.

It isn’t. Its fun to watch tournaments, but in terms of just regular viewership? God no. To your overall point about BR’s a BR mode would help with this greatly (less predictable outcomes and such) but really there are a ton of ways they could make Infinite more interesting to watch. I think a really good Co-op/Firefight could improve this alone, it probably needs a BR to be competitive (from a viewership perspective) but I don’t think that’s the only issue.

Viewership is actually very very good for Esports. In fact, I would argue its far too dependent on Esports to be remotely worthwhile to watch. The viewership for Infinite skyrockets for pro play, horrendous outside of that though, which tells me that it just doesn’t have anything compelling for casuals.

Indie studios love to rub this in lol, I’ve been playing Slay the Spire for the last week or so, that game was made by 2 people… Investments don’t necessarily equate to outcomes. Maybe the solution all this time was to cut people and have a smaller (more nimble) studio instead of just throwing monopoly money at Halo expecting miracles.