plasma pistol = ruined big team battle

Tanks are completely useless. ghosts and banshees are the only ones that can avoid it.

Either remove plasma pistols from laodouts or remove the emp effect it has on vehicles (i would prefer this)

DO SOMETHING 343 -Yoink!-

Okay have you ever played halo before honestly dude that is called an equalizer. Using a plasma pistol makes the vehicles less over powered. I would say you should get rid of vehicles before removing the emp effect of the plasma pistol. that is how it has always been used charged up either to drop shields or disable a vehicle to stick it and destroy it. either deal with it or don’t play btb your choice just stop complaining about a halo staple.

I think it promotes better and smarter team work. For example

I played a big team on exile where the blue team dominated my team beacuse they had at least 3 guys guarding flanking enemies from stopping the tank. We could barely even get in position to take it out and their tank driver racked up 19 tank kills before someone got a lucky splazer drop and blasted that sucker. We lost but it was awesome to see a good team so in coordinated.

If your team plays smart you can help keep any vehicle alive. They shouldnt be kings of the battlefeild anyway in my opinion.

Thank god for the plasma pistol, so vehicle kids like you don’t go around getting free kills on the tank.

If there’s anything halo 4 did right (out of the billion things they did wrong), was nerf vehicles.

Disagree.

Load outs ruined Halo.

We now have less variety per life.
No weapons on maps.
More AC spawning.
Anti vehicle capabilities. (I run towards hogs to get that free double)

Try some customs with a single load out. Halo4 can actually be really awesome.

> Disagree.
>
> Load outs ruined Halo.
>
> We now have less variety per life.
> No weapons on maps.
> More AC spawning.
> Anti vehicle capabilities. (I run towards hogs to get that free double)
>
> Try some customs with a single load out. Halo4 can actually be really awesome.

What the hell are you thinking son?

The loadouts part is fine, it’s the options within them that suck. I don’t mind the fact that I always start with a DMR, I wouldn’t want to be forced to use an AR in the first place like all the other halos that required the competitive player to settle for one if he ever dared venture in a casual playlist. Take off camo, promethean, regen field and a bunch of other crap, and you have yourself a good game.

I agree with the no weapons on map. That’s stupid.

Glad for the anti vehicle though. You don’t deserve a free double like that, ever.

Just use that one specialization that takes care of the EMP effect.

Also…are you honestly suggesting tanks are useless? They most certainly are not. Sheila would be offended.

> Disagree.
>
> Load outs ruined Halo.
>
> We now have less variety per life.
> No weapons on maps.
> More AC spawning.
> Anti vehicle capabilities. (I run towards hogs to get that free double)
>
> Try some customs with a single load out. Halo4 can actually be really awesome.

Loadouts, Sprint, Armor abilities, Huge maps that promote strictly BTB, killcams, instant spawn, ordnance, no set times for weapons to spawn, huge indicators when a weapon spawns, join sesh in progress, no ranks/ranking system (yes, I know this is coming in Januaray, but you will only be able to view your rank on waypoint app, which is pointless), and lack of custom options such as flag running and instant respawn ruined Halo.

> Okay have you ever played halo before honestly dude that is called an equalizer.

Plasma pistol vehicle stun was only introduced in Halo 3. And in 3 it worked because you didn’t spawn with a plasma pistol nor plasma grenades.

In Halo 4 you die quicker in a vehicle save for Mantis thanks to this. This is why I avoid vehicles completely and destroy anyone dumb enough to get in one.

> > Disagree.
> >
> > Load outs ruined Halo.
> >
> > We now have less variety per life.
> > No weapons on maps.
> > More AC spawning.
> > Anti vehicle capabilities. (I run towards hogs to get that free double)
> >
> > Try some customs with a single load out. Halo4 can actually be really awesome.
>
> What the hell are you thinking son?

I’m thinking the first Halo that has custom load outs is the first one to bore me. I can’t even be bothered with 4v4 MM anymore. BTB is okay only because it’s such a clown game I’m not even trying to play it like it’s a Halo game. With the crazy ordinance it feels like good old fiesta.

Load outs just aren’t for me. Players are forced to be more well rounded with out them as the situation of the match dictates how you play. No we just spawn with our bread and butter over and over again. Just too simplistic and easy to “master”.

> > Disagree.
> >
> > Load outs ruined Halo.
> >
> > We now have less variety per life.
> > No weapons on maps.
> > More AC spawning.
> > Anti vehicle capabilities. (I run towards hogs to get that free double)
> >
> > Try some customs with a single load out. Halo4 can actually be really awesome.
>
> Loadouts, Sprint, Armor abilities, Huge maps that promote strictly BTB, killcams, instant spawn, ordnance, no set times for weapons to spawn, huge indicators when a weapon spawns, join sesh in progress, no ranks/ranking system (yes, I know this is coming in Januaray, but you will only be able to view your rank on waypoint app, which is pointless), and lack of custom options such as flag running and instant respawn ruined Halo.

lol! Yeah, they certainly didn’t help. I don’t even bother with MM unless my friends drag me in.

The deal breaker for me though is load outs. It promotes single minded repetitive game play.

So basically I want to drive the tank and crush the hopes of my enemies without mercy. Uh no if you’re driving your tank out into the open with nobody backing you up you should know that bad things will happen to your tank like bad things happen to players who run out into a open lane and no cover with such tank.

Using the Operator ability does it’s wonders.

Suck it up. Learn to use a gun. It takes alot more skill anyway.

> Using the Operator ability does it’s wonders.

I hate to even ask…

What is it and what “level” do I have to be to use it?

Maybe that’s how a lone soldier combats a metal beast.

I think it’s more that everyone has one, more than the weapon itself.

One or two on the map is fine, for pick up, but every person on the map having one is ridiculous. Makes vehicles redundant.

LOL at the whiners here. They want something that destroys everyone and has no counter. Every weapon or vehicle needs a counter or else the first one to grab a power weapon or vehicle wins. That is for noobs, not skilled players.

Completely agree. PP should only take out infantry shields and not do jack -Yoink- to vehicles. Plasma nades need to be removed to.

> Completely agree. PP should only take out infantry shields and not do jack -Yoink- to vehicles. Plasma nades need to be removed to.

Plasma Grenades have been in every Halo multiplayer…The EMP got introduced in Halo 2 which I doubt you even played

Holy hell, the logic of this community astounds me. I seriously think like 80% of the community has never played CE or Halo 2.