Pistol is frustrating

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> > Yea everyone should run around with the AR and spray and pray.
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> No I am not saying that, I just think the pistol of 3 and 4 days was far more balanced.

So making a weapon useless is balance?

Lol, ok.

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> > The pistol should be downgraded to be like the one in H2A, and the BR should be the spawning weapon.
> > AR should be nerfed.
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> they specifically chose the ar/pistol combo because its a nice all around starting combo, that forces you to actually move around the map to find other weapons -instead of just camping.
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> You clearly want the BR, look - now you have to expose yourself and go get it, instead of hiding and picking people off. Now you have to play Halo… WEIRD.
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> I Agree, I get killed by the pistol at long range as well - doesn’t mean it isn’t fair, I cant get long range kills with it to save my life - some people are better with it than other, just accept it.

I agree with having to fight for the BR.

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> It should be a back up gun

CoD is down the hall and to the right.

But it is pretty damn effective at long range. I see your points though

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> Lol, ok.

H4 pistol was far from useless. It wasn’t far off H5 pistol. Just a shorter range

Weapons are only as decent as the user makes them to be.

If you are running into people who can 4-5 shot you its possible that your movements are not erratic enough to throw off their aim.

That said, no more br starts. Might as well remove the pistol from the game/ playlist if they throw that in and it would defeat the purpose of its balancing.

I’ve barely seen anyone using the pistol

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> H4 pistol was far from useless. It wasn’t far off H5 pistol. Just a shorter range

I feel like the H5 Magnum has a shorter range since you’ve got this new Projection Sight and no more 2x Smart-Link Scope…

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> When I play I rarely see people using it, it’s mostly the BRs and those can get annoying at times.

Agreed… warzone needs to renamed to BRzone

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> > The pistol should be downgraded to be like the one in H2A, and the BR should be the spawning weapon.
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Lmao… wow… this community really has lost it.
You know nothing about proper balance, and what playing Halo actually means.
You should be exposing yourself to get power weapons - weapons with a clear difference in performance from the spawning weapons, and ones that can be timed and fought over by both teams.
Having to scurry around for a BR that is only SLIGHTLY better than the pistol creates bad gameplay. You can’t stop the other team from gathering slightly better weapons because they’re everywhere. Then you get wrecked from mid-range because an equally skilled opponent happened to have a BR.

In old Halo, when an opponent had a power weapon, it was because you weren’t good enough to stop them using the same weapons as them, and now you’re going to pay the price.

I know 343 hired a pro-team, but if you look up things that people like Ghost were saying before getting hired at 343, you’ll notice that they do NOT like the things that Halo 5 has.
Ghost hated sprint. I’m sure he says he likes not starting with a BR now because that’s what his employer wants him to say.

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> > > > > Yea everyone should run around with the AR and spray and pray.
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> I feel like the H5 Magnum has a shorter range since you’ve got this new Projection Sight and no more 2x Smart-Link Scope…

Hmmmm I don’t see it that way. Yes there was 2x smart link scope with H4 pistol but the scope didn’t extend the range. It just helped with precision. In H5, using the projection sight or aiming off the hip with the pistol kills easily from afar, especially with skilled players.

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> > > > Yea everyone should run around with the AR and spray and pray.
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> H4 pistol was far from useless. It wasn’t far off H5 pistol. Just a shorter range

The H5 pistol needs to have a longer range than the H4 pistol because H5 autos have a further range than H4 autos due to ADS.

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> > > The pistol should be downgraded to be like the one in H2A, and the BR should be the spawning weapon.
> > > AR should be nerfed.
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> Lmao… wow… this community really has lost it.
> You know nothing about proper balance, and what playing Halo actually means.
> You should be exposing yourself to get power weapons - weapons with a clear difference in performance from the spawning weapons, and ones that can be timed and fought over by both teams.
> Having to scurry around for a BR that is only SLIGHTLY better than the pistol creates bad gameplay. You can’t stop the other team from gathering slightly better weapons because they’re everywhere. Then you get wrecked from mid-range because an equally skilled opponent happened to have a BR.
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> In old Halo, when an opponent had a power weapon, it was because you weren’t good enough to stop them using the same weapons as them, and now you’re going to pay the price.
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> I know 343 hired a pro-team, but if you look up things that people like Ghost were saying before getting hired at 343, you’ll notice that they do NOT like the things that Halo 5 has.
> Ghost hated sprint. I’m sure he says he likes not starting with a BR now because that’s what his employer wants him to say.

This is why the pistol should be a 4sk.

More people use brs and ars both at which can beat the pistol though it’s strong and definitely competitive I think it’s fine…this is the most balanced weapons ive seen in a halo game.

the pistol its to powerful like the dmr?

I personally believe that if you think the pistol is over powered than why not use it yourself?
Fight fire with fire!

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> > Yea everyone should run around with the AR and spray and pray.
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> No I am not saying that, I just think the pistol of 3 and 4 days was far more balanced.

Those pistols were trash…

The pistol is the utility weapon. Why is this so hard to understand? If you nerfed it to make it a back-up weapon when you have nothing else, it would be totally worthless, like it has been in most Halo games. It’s still harder to use than BR/DMR/Carbine/LR. It’s supposed to make you viable on spawn. If any change should be made to the pistol, it should be a buff to compensate for the skill-gap.

It wouldn’t be any different if they decided to nerf it and then make everyone spawn with a BR. I’m good with where this is at, because the BR will still beat it in closer ranges, but has the edge at range, as do any of the other precision weapons.
Its a good utility weapon that lets you fend for yourself even if you can’t find another weapon.
halo 4’s pistol was decent, but ultimately couldn’t compete. Halo 3’s was trash, I don’t know what you’re talking about there.

The Pistol is suppose to be the best weapon of choice, Honestly, ever played halo CE? or halo 3? How about Halo 2? The pistol is one of the Guns that made Halo what it is, if you have a problem with it go back to CoD