why is it still in ZB. it is OP and Cheap.they take out FF LTD and dont change the important stuff. tell me that makes sense…
I thought OP meant Original Post/Poster.
Nevermind… i just figured out FF LTD is firefight limited.
The pistol is still there because it is a powerful weapon. When its that strength the DMR becomes pretty much useless and while I don’t agree with the pistol still being there but hey, can’t do much about it.
OP = Over Powered, come on you knew that. it is called context clues, use them.
i can do something about it, i can complain about it and hope someone see that is am right and changes it.
it is so stupid and frustrating, when i turn a corner put 3 shots with the DMR into someone and have themn just turn around and pop of 8 shots before i can shoot 2 more shots from the DMR.
i dont get why they left the pistol in SLAYER DMRS, in halo 3 SLAYER BR was BR and AR. that is the way it should be in REACH. DMR/AR all the time.
It should be made into a map pickup. In ZBS the pistol is a sub-power weapon and should be treated as such.
It needs to be a pickup. Its spread is simply too random to start players with it.
> It needs to be a pickup. Its spread is simply too random to start players with it.
cough cough Halo 3 BR cough cough
OP, the real question is, “why do you keep dying by the ZB pistol?” You’re trying to use the DMR in a range where the pistol dominates. That’s like trying to use the sniper in the BR’s dominate range. Sure, it might work sometimes, but the logical thing to do is use your BR too (or in your case, the pistol). You spawn with it, so there’s no excuse. Basically, you’re crying because you refuse to play the game how it’s meant to be played; trying to shotgun someone who’s a mile away. Good job, OP.
The DMR/Magnum loadout is grossly OP because you have a power weapon-esque sidearm as a Secondary and a renaissance rifle as your Primary.
The loadout should be DMR/AR (or just DMR), but having the Pistol as a starting weapon is just a bad idea.
you are wrong. the BR didn’t kill you in .23 of a second, and took more skill it had less aim assist and bullet magnetism.
check my stats bro, i KNOW the pistols optimal range. i also KNOW that i in zb i can out play the dmr at any range, simply because i can shoot faster and have more aim assist and bullet magnetism, plus the pistol is a 4SK in the TU playlist.
to continue your analogy, it is like we are spawning with the sniper and the DMR, but the DMR is a 4SK and can be shot as fast as you want, tell wich take more skill to use?
i play ZB SLAYER DMR because i find the DMR with bloom way too random, if i wanted to use the pistol, i would play regular team slayer, where it is balanced. the bloom on the pistol is the only time bloom worked.
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> OP, the real question is, “why do you keep dying by the ZB pistol?” You’re trying to use the DMR in a range where the pistol dominates. That’s like trying to use the sniper in the BR’s dominate range. Sure, it might work sometimes, but the logical thing to do is use your BR too (or in your case, the pistol). You spawn with it, so there’s no excuse. Basically, you’re crying because you refuse to play the game how it’s meant to be played; trying to shotgun someone who’s a mile away. Good job, OP.
I completely agree. The pistol, right now little to no skill to use. It has to fast of rate of fire and a very high bullet magnetism and aim assist. Either reduce the rate of fire or make it as a pickup
The beta playlist is disappointing to me. The pistol should not be in ZB (pick-up would be okay) and they should have increased movement speed or slowed the DMR’s rate of fire, or both. By just taking out bloom and not changing speed or ROF, it doesn’t play as well as it should. And since they haven’t made any of these updates by now, I don’t think they will…so I don’t think we’ll see much ZB going forward, outside of MLG.
I’m not sure what they are getting out of the beta…but I’m not playing it anymore and I’d much rather have ZB in the right settings. So I don’t think the player count reflects who actually wants to play ZB with better settings.
I agree that it should be a pickup. But god forbid that a weapon can actually counter the DMR. The clip is still small and doesn’t have the range of dimmer either. It’s balanced.
Eh Pistol is OP only balanced by low mag size in ZB. Then that in itself is irrelevant if your opponent has a decent pair of thumbs and owns you with pistol. Leaving it as it is is not optimal, removing it or making it a power weapon are two options at this point.
Remove it and that’s that. Complainers will complain but hey at least they’ll be using DMRs/NR.
Pick up power weapon. Players will have to learn where it spawns and fight over such a small, yet terribly OP gun. I am for this choice and while it sounds funny fighting over a pistol, at least only one person will have it at a time and will become important to control.
Pistol is a good close range weapon. It’s fine.
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Anywho, I would agree. I actually feel sorry when I win with the pistol because I feel like it was such an easy, mindless kill. From the looks of the newest video on Hang Em High, it looks like the rate of fire was drastically capped so it is no issue, but it is still so strange that they would allow such a hand cannon to be spawned with.
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I wasn’t disagreeing that the pistol was way over powered, I completely agree with that. You feel sorry for the pistol kills? I don’t go that far, I just respect the fact that they gave me a way over powered weapon so I might as well use it.