DMR vs Pistol mid range long range and short range, the pistol will always win.
Needle Rifle well its just, you know D: OP
I haven’t tested camo or AL out yet i dont plan to.
I dont think they are overpowered at all. Idk I guess ill play more and find out
It is very ridiculous. Glad there will only be a pistol in Anniversary.
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Of course it’s overpowered in beta crappers. With Reach’s default settings. Play it under classic settings in customs if you get the chance its way better 
> It is very ridiculous. Glad there will only be a pistol in Anniversary.
D: my pistol shouldnt beat a lunging sword that just shouldnt happen
> > It is very ridiculous. Glad there will only be a pistol in Anniversary.
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> D: my pistol shouldnt beat a lunging sword that just shouldnt happen
so sword should always be free kills?
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the magnum just balances the sword out
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he was already within the lunge where i just turned around to shoot three times and killed him in three shots
thats fair?
for someone to turn around and kill you in three shots when you had already been in lunge?
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noticed something else, jet packers are getting a huge reward for this zero bloom as well, 90% of the DMR battles ive lost, ive lost to jet packers
I find it hard to believe you can pull off three shots while in lunge range of a sword… maybe two. o_O
> > > > It is very ridiculous. Glad there will only be a pistol in Anniversary.
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> he was already within the lunge where i just turned around to shoot three times and killed him in three shots
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> for someone to turn around and kill you in three shots when you had already been in lunge?
If you killed him in 3 shots then he was already weak.
If he had jumped and lunged he would probably have been more successful. Either way this is a FPS not super smash where we hit people. the sword is a 1hk and is powerful enough, if you were clutch enough to drop him then the fault is on him for setting up the strike wrong and credit goes to you for fast reflexes and a quick trigger finger.
I really see no issue, this is like CE, which IMO is always a good thing.
> I find it hard to believe you can pull off three shots while in lunge range of a sword… maybe two. o_O
also this
> I find it hard to believe you can pull off three shots while in lunge range of a sword… maybe two. o_O
i got a bull true
The DMR and Needle Rifle have always needed a buff. I have HATED picking up a NR for the sake of long distancing because I felt it was too weak. Now with the TU, it’s almost worthy of the title of replacement Covenant Sniper. Seriously.
The Magnum I’ve not tried out yet in the TU because I was more interested in the DMR and NR capabilities, but during the time of a sprinting enemy towards you, and getting a bulltrue, I’d believe it. I’ve done it pre-TU with a Magnum. It’s not that special.
I was constantly sick and tired of doing DMR battles and aiming for the head, and having kills stolen from me due to bloom screwing me. Now, it’s going to be due to being double teamed. Aside from that, the reduction in bloom has been amazing for me, and worked wonders. I’ll take being out-gunned to being out-lucked any day. Makes me feel like I deserved to lose the battle.
> The DMR and Needle Rifle have always needed a buff. I have HATED picking up a NR for the sake of long distancing because I felt it was too weak. Now with the TU, it’s almost worthy of the title of replacement Covenant Sniper. Seriously.
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> The Magnum I’ve not tried out yet in the TU because I was more interested in the DMR and NR capabilities, but during the time of a sprinting enemy towards you, and getting a bulltrue, I’d believe it. I’ve done it pre-TU with a Magnum. It’s not that special.
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> I was constantly sick and tired of doing DMR battles and aiming for the head, and having kills stolen from me due to bloom screwing me. Now, it’s going to be due to being double teamed. Aside from that, the reduction in bloom has been amazing for me, and worked wonders. I’ll take being out-gunned to being out-lucked any day. Makes me feel like I deserved to lose the battle.
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i dont understand how people can stand to be out spammed…Aim for the chest, hope for the best = default reach
they’re not overpowered.
there needs to be an increase in movement speed. that’s the main problem.
you out skilled a power weapon, that should ALWAYS happen.
if you are able to it someone three time, you should get the kill, why wouldnt you want it to work like that???
> > It is very ridiculous. Glad there will only be a pistol in Anniversary.
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> D: my pistol shouldnt beat a lunging sword that just shouldnt happen
> you out skilled a power weapon, that should ALWAYS happen.
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> if you are able to it someone three time, you should get the kill, why wouldnt you want it to work like that???
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i think people are just TOO used to the crappy gameplay of H3 and default Reach, where they think power weapons should be guaranteed kills.
it’s going to take a while for them to get used to it, but it’ll happen
At first I thought the pistol was perfectly fine since the DMR is better at further range…
then I played it. Wow, it’s like SWAT. Turn a corner and you’re dead before you even see the other half of the guys body.
The RoF is just way too fast to be 4sk. Either make it 5 or decrease the RoF.
The Pistol has limited range on most maps. If you are talking about Countdown, Zealot, or Swordbase, yes there is no reason to take the DMR over the Pistol. But on maps like Powerhouse, Boardwalk, or Reflection, there are lots of situations where the DMR is just superior.
As per the NR, I don’t find it remotely overpowered. It’s weaker than the Pistol, and has a BARELY faster kill time than the DMR, with the payoff being you have to land more hits. Which was the EXACT relationship between the BR and Carbine in Halo 3, and noone complained then.
I haven’t been able to finish a match in the TU beta. Everybody quits.