Pinnacle is a map is horrible for SWAT, if 343 was able to add buildings around the open areas it would make Pinnacle a playable map for SWAT. Pinnacle is just far too open with two sniper towers facing each other. A horrible setup for a SWAT map, it encourages camping and with the openness of the map it’s possible to spawn kill if you’re at one of the towers.
EDIT: I edited the OP from “Pinnacle Should be Removed from the SWAT Playlist” to the new one.
Thats my favorite map, I actually think a lot of people like it, I enjoy playing it and I never get spawnkilled… :\
Pinnacle should be removed full stop. If anything because of the broken man cannon that kills you if you go in it. But it’s definatly not suited for swat…no cover + two sniper towers facing each other…
Pinnacle should be replaced entirely. It’s spawn-kill central in SWAT, and it’s just bad in general.
> Thats my favorite map, I actually think a lot of people like it, I enjoy playing it and I never get spawnkilled… :\
Do you play SWAT on it? If you do, you probably wouldn’t like it.
> Pinnacle should be replaced entirely. It’s spawn-kill central in SWAT, and it’s just bad in general.
This, and the fact that unless you have sniper or shotgun, your chance of getting kills is zero!
Get rid of Pinnacle, and Think Twice. Both horrenously bad maps completely unsuited to anything but continual suicides in the whole game.
> > Thats my favorite map, I actually think a lot of people like it, I enjoy playing it and I never get spawnkilled… :
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> Do you play SWAT on it? If you do, you probably wouldn’t like it.
Yes I play SWAT and Pinnacle is one of my favorite maps in the playlist. If anything it should be replaced by Altitude but not removed.
it needs to be removed.
I guess, but I can exploit the spawns way easier on Asylum.
I was about to say it needs to be removed from the universe in general.
> I was about to say it needs to be removed from the universe in general.
Still not enough. Someone needs to go back in time and prevent that map and Ascension from ever being made.
> > I was about to say it needs to be removed from the universe in general.
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> Still not enough. Someone needs to go back in time and prevent that map and Ascension from ever being made.
You are dead to me.
> > > I was about to say it needs to be removed from the universe in general.
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> > Still not enough. Someone needs to go back in time and prevent that map and Ascension from ever being made.
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> You are dead to me.
And I thought it was just my smell. =D
There’s no reason SWAT Pinnacle should be removed.
If you’re good enough to break the spawn trap and reverse it then it’s ok, if you’re not, then you deserve to lose.
I haven’t had a problem with it since they fixed the static spawns. It’s actually playable now.
> There’s no reason SWAT Pinnacle should be removed.
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> If you’re good enough to break the spawn trap and reverse it then it’s ok, if you’re not, then you deserve to lose.
Someone hasn’t played Pinnacle in a while. There are dynamic spawns now so no spawn trapping.
> > There’s no reason SWAT Pinnacle should be removed.
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> > If you’re good enough to break the spawn trap and reverse it then it’s ok, if you’re not, then you deserve to lose.
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> Someone hasn’t played Pinnacle in a while. There are dynamic spawns now so no spawn trapping.
I literally just played Pinnacle 30 minutes ago. And if you think dynamic spawns means no spawn trapping then you’re pretty ignorant.
I’ll never understand why people vote to play on this wannabe-Ascension remake. Pinnacle is horrible imbalanced - you basically need to have control of a Sniper and/or Rockets in order to get some leverage on this map, otherwise your team is screwed.
It’s too easy to get spawn trapped on Pinnacle.
I never understood why they put the Rockets at their current spawn point…Blue team will always have a good grab at them from the moment the match begins. If they at least put the rockets in the center of the map it would be a risk to actually go out and grab them because you’re out in the open.
So many things wrong with this map…
> > > There’s no reason SWAT Pinnacle should be removed.
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> > > If you’re good enough to break the spawn trap and reverse it then it’s ok, if you’re not, then you deserve to lose.
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> > Someone hasn’t played Pinnacle in a while. There are dynamic spawns now so no spawn trapping.
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> I literally just played Pinnacle 30 minutes ago. And if you think dynamic spawns means no spawn trapping then you’re pretty ignorant.
You can kill people as they spawn but you can’t “spawn trap” anymore. Spawn trapping is not allowing the enemy to get out of their spawn zone. When the whole map is their spawn zone, spawn trapping is impossible by definition.
I understand what you are getting at but technically you can’t spawn trap on Pinnacle anymore.
Not being good at a map is no reason to remove it from SWAT.
Pinnacle plays very well.
If you focused on improving as opposed to complaining about the map then you may improve.