Perks, Loadouts, Sprint, it may all not be so bad!

Games Other Halo
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NOTE: If you are just going to say “343i are ripping of CoD” or “You are defending 343i” without any explanation as to why you think so, just don’t waste your time here. Constructive posts are welcome!

People are complaining about things we have only heard about yet, and we don’t know even the slightest about them, except that they are in the game. I think 343i knows what they are doing, and they love Halo. I don’t think they would be so stupid to make mistakes such as copying CoD or any other game. That is why I created this thread to analyze the things we have heard about.

Loadouts:

There was a lot of raging about loadouts. But people, we have little to NONE information about how they work. It could be something that will be fatal for Halo 4, or something that is going to make the game fresh and fun.

Loadouts doesn’t mean people with high ranks can spawn with Rocket Launchers and Swords. I’m sure 343i isn’t that crazy. Maybe 343i created 2, or 3 utility weapons from which we can choose. Some players may spawn with AR’s, some may spawn with BR’s. Maybe some spawn with Carbines instead of BR’s and Plasma Rifle instead of AR’s.

Maybe we can choose one of 2 grenades of some type from that 3rd grenade slot that we’ve seen in one of the pictures?

Or it may be something completely else. We just don’t know now. Don’t state that 343i is copying CoD.

AA’s:
AA’s were not confirmed and the picture that so many people were talking about with an AA on chief’s back could just be a placeholder.

The only AA (and I speculate that it is a default ability, not an armor ability) that was confirmed is Sprint. I don’t think we will get any other AA0. Maybe Jet Pack.

Lets talk about Sprint. I guess every player will have it. Now, if you see the trailer, we can see it is a little bit different then Reach’s. You can start, and stop sprinting without interrupting the actions you are performing (aiming and shooting). It is more smooth then Reach Sprint. In Reach you would lose 1 second until you stop sprinting to shoot. And if it is default, everybody is even.

Random Power-Weapon Spawns:
Edit: Confirmed to be fake. Thanks for this info goes to sitting mamba

Perks:
I heard this was confirmed to be fake by Frankie somewhere. Could anybody provide me with a link?

Lets talk as if this wasn’t confirmed to be fake. Perks could be anything, like loadouts. Maybe if we buy different visor colours, the HUD colour will change. It doesn’t really have to affect gameplay so much.

Now, I don’t say that I would like Halo 4 to be like this. I don’t say Halo 4 is like this. I just tried to explain how things might not be as bad as some people think.
Feel free to agree and disagree and tell your opinions.

P.s: If there is anything else concerning you, write it here. I will try to find an answer. But I don’t have an answer to everything. (=
P.P.s: Also, 343i said that things are subject to change.

P.P.P.s:

> Frank O’Connor on perks:
> “I’ve responded to it a couple of times. There aren’t ‘perks’ in the game as being described here. And classic Halo is still there. But there are things we will be rolling out soon to put all of this discussion in a much better perspective and I suspect calm frayed nerves."

Thanks to UnbiasedStone for this info

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343i are ripping of CoD

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> 343i are ripping of CoD

Am I supposed to get hurt or pissed off?

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> 343i are ripping of CoD

-Yoink-… I beg of you.

Edit: Frankie never said Perks were fake. In fact, he said he’d explain it more on a post from Neogaf. It’s not fake.

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But the main problem is, Halo doesn’t need any of that.

I can’t speak for everyone, but I would really like it if 343 injected new things that changed gameplay, but I don’t think Armor Abilities, Perks, and Loadouts are the way to go.

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Random weapon spawn times is confirmed to be false by Frankie. Come on now, who actually believed that?

As for loadouts I am okay with players having a choice between a Precision weapon and a fully auto weapon / magnum for their loadouts. No Plasma Pistols hopefully.

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> But the main problem is, Halo doesn’t need any of that.
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> I can’t speak for everyone, but I would really like it if 343 injected new things that changed gameplay, but I don’t think Armor Abilities, Perks, and Loadouts are the way to go.

Yes, but still, it may not even work how we think it does.

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> > 343i are ripping of CoD
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> Yoink!.. I beg of you.
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> Edit: Frankie never said Perks were fake. In fact, he said he’d explain it more on a post from Neogaf. It’s not fake.

Oh, thanks. I’ll edit it the thread. I wasn’t quite sure about that one. (=

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Halo needs to go back to Halo. A game based around guns, grenades, and melee. Alnog with weapon and map control. Loadouts are pointless. AA’s absolutely break the basics that made Halo great. Sprint, ok whatever. And for the love of god fix how Halo plays on HDTV’s.

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> But the main problem is, Halo doesn’t need any of that.
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> I can’t speak for everyone, but I would really like it if 343 injected new things that changed gameplay, but I don’t think Armor Abilities, Perks, and Loadouts are the way to go.

But Halo needs change, though. I’m pretty sure they know what they are doing considering they have benn working on the game for years now and everyone their has worked on successful games before.

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> > But the main problem is, Halo doesn’t need any of that.
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> > I can’t speak for everyone, but I would really like it if 343 injected new things that changed gameplay, but I don’t think Armor Abilities, Perks, and Loadouts are the way to go.
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> Yes, but still, it may not even work how we think it does.

I agree with you. I think people are getting worked up over nothing. It’s just that if 343 decides to split playlists, and have classic, and a separate for perks they separating the community which would be very hypocritical since thats the “main reason” they didn’t recreate the Halo:CE multiplayer.

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> Halo needs to go back to Halo. A game based around guns, grenades, and melee. Alnog with weapon and map control. Loadouts are pointless. AA’s absolutely break the basics that made Halo great. Sprint, ok whatever. And for the love of god fix how Halo plays on HDTV’s.

This is a thing of taste. Some people want change, some want Halo 4 to be like the old ones. But everybody complains how CoD is the same game over and over again and that this is the reason why it is bad. Why would you want that for Halo? And all the complainments we read are based mostly on speculation.

P.s: I don’t say CoD is bad.

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It’s true that Halo needs change, but that doesn’t mean that it needs things which are in other games. I’m not against it or for it at this point because we haven’t really seen anything from the multiplayer that I would call conclusive. As long as Halo remains distinctly halo, then it shouldn’t be that bad, hopefully it will be good.

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> It’s true that Halo needs change, but that doesn’t mean that it needs things which are in other games. I’m not against it or for it at this point because we haven’t really seen anything from the multiplayer that I would call conclusive. As long as Halo remains distinctly halo, then it shouldn’t be that bad, hopefully it will be good.

Agreed.

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Reach had most of these things and it was bad so don’t say it may not be so bad because we already know it’s going to be bad.

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How does any of what you said change the fundamentals of what AAs/sprint DO to gameplay?

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> > Halo needs to go back to Halo. A game based around guns, grenades, and melee. Alnog with weapon and map control. Loadouts are pointless. AA’s absolutely break the basics that made Halo great. Sprint, ok whatever. And for the love of god fix how Halo plays on HDTV’s.
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> This is a thing of taste. Some people want change, some want Halo 4 to be like the old ones. But everybody complains how CoD is the same game over and over again and that this is the reason why it is bad. Why would you want that for Halo? And all the complainments we read are based mostly on speculation.
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> P.s: I don’t say CoD is bad.

That’s what set Halo apart from other games. I don’t see the need to try and make it like all the other games. CoD doesn’t change anything and it’s the most played highest grossing game in history. Halo changed and took a nose dive. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. They need to learn from past mistakes (Reach). It’s pretty obvious what the taste of most Halo fans is (see Halo 1-3).

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Hope hologram is in it.
I LOVE HOLOGRAM.

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> > Halo needs to go back to Halo. A game based around guns, grenades, and melee. Alnog with weapon and map control. Loadouts are pointless. AA’s absolutely break the basics that made Halo great. Sprint, ok whatever. And for the love of god fix how Halo plays on HDTV’s.
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> i dont see what you mean on the HDTV part. Halo plays great on my tv.

Play on a SDTV then switch to an HDTV. If you don’t notice the difference then you’re not paying attention. No other game I’ve played has this issue. Some TV’s are worse than others. I can play on my Panny plasma no problem but my buddies Sony LCD is a nightmare to play on. The input lag is attrocious.