If this was a new franchise that 343 was creating and people were expecting it to be a certain way, then saying to “adapt” to the changes would make sense. This is not the case with this game. This is Halo 5. The 5th game in the largest exclusive franchise on Xbox. Saying to adapt to the garbage decisions that are being made by 343 is a joke at this point.
There is a difference between expecting things to be a certain way and having new changes to adapt to. And since this is the 5th game in this series, we should be at the point of expecting things to be a certain way because of how deeply rooted this franchise is (or once was), not having nonsense thrown at us and having to “adapt”.
The addition of a new game mode, new matchmaking system, different player sizes per game, or new melee mechanic are things to adapt to.
Completely gutting the entire structure of what makes halo halo and changing the way the game is played entirely is not something you can simply adapt to. It’s a completely different game and the people who say to simply “adapt” and who support the changes are who are driving this franchise into the ground by giving 343 support. There seem to plenty of those people here (one of the first few replies will say I have no idea what I’m talking about).
What makes it worse is 343 saying they know what we “expect” out of them with their “players expect sprint” remark. Thank you 343, but consider that $60 you expect from me, gone.
Did the gaming community just “adapt” to Microsoft’s DRM before XB1 came out? No
Did Edward Snowden just “adapt” to knowing the wrongdoings of the government? No
Did the internet users of America just “adapt” to the FCC trying to control the internet? No
Did America just “adapt” to -Yoink!- trying to take over Europe? No
So why are you trying to convince people to “adapt” to these horrible new features and changes to a franchise that we know and (used to) love? What is your major malfunction?
Why are you letting -Yoink!-(343) take over Europe(Halo and it’s community)?
Mark my words, this game is going to fall on it’s face within 3 months of release. I’ll remember to repost this exact post at that time to let you all know. 12/30/14
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> If this was a new franchise that 343 was creating and people were expecting it to be a certain way, then saying to “adapt” to the changes would make sense. This is not the case with this game. This is Halo 5. The 5th game in the largest exclusive franchise on Xbox. Saying to adapt to the garbage decisions that are being made by 343 is a joke at this point.
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> There is a difference between expecting things to be a certain way and having new changes to adapt to. And since this is the 5th game in this series, we should be at the point of expecting things to be a certain way because of how deeply rooted this franchise is (or once was), not having nonsense thrown at us and having to “adapt”.
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> The addition of a new game mode, new matchmaking system, different player sizes per game, or new melee mechanic are things to adapt to.
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> Completely gutting the entire structure of what makes halo halo and changing the way the game is played entirely is not something you can simply adapt to. It’s a completely different game and the people who say to simply “adapt” and who support the changes are who are driving this franchise into the ground by giving 343 support. There seem to plenty of those people here (one of the first few replies will say I have no idea what I’m talking about).
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> What makes it worse is 343 saying they know what we “expect” out of them with their “players expect sprint” remark. Thank you 343, but consider that $60 you expect from me, gone.
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> Did the gaming community just “adapt” to Microsoft’s DRM before XB1 came out? No
> Did Edward Snowden just “adapt” to knowing the wrongdoings of the government? No
> Did the internet users of America just “adapt” to the FCC trying to control the internet? No
> Did America just “adapt” to -Yoink!- trying to take over Europe? No
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> So why are you trying to convince people to “adapt” to these horrible new features and changes to a franchise that we know and (used to) love? What is your major malfunction?
> Why are you letting -Yoink!-(343) take over Europe(Halo and it’s community)?
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> Mark my words, this game is going to fall on it’s face within 3 months of release. I’ll remember to repost this exact post at that time to let you all know. 12/30/14
For heavens sake it’s a game…! Relax and adapt…! LOL…!
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> > If this was a new franchise that 343 was creating and people were expecting it to be a certain way, then saying to “adapt” to the changes would make sense. This is not the case with this game. This is Halo 5. The 5th game in the largest exclusive franchise on Xbox. Saying to adapt to the garbage decisions that are being made by 343 is a joke at this point.
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> > There is a difference between expecting things to be a certain way and having new changes to adapt to. And since this is the 5th game in this series, we should be at the point of expecting things to be a certain way because of how deeply rooted this franchise is (or once was), not having nonsense thrown at us and having to “adapt”.
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> > The addition of a new game mode, new matchmaking system, different player sizes per game, or new melee mechanic are things to adapt to.
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> > Completely gutting the entire structure of what makes halo halo and changing the way the game is played entirely is not something you can simply adapt to. It’s a completely different game and the people who say to simply “adapt” and who support the changes are who are driving this franchise into the ground by giving 343 support. There seem to plenty of those people here (one of the first few replies will say I have no idea what I’m talking about).
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> > What makes it worse is 343 saying they know what we “expect” out of them with their “players expect sprint” remark. Thank you 343, but consider that $60 you expect from me, gone.
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> > Did the gaming community just “adapt” to Microsoft’s DRM before XB1 came out? No
> > Did Edward Snowden just “adapt” to knowing the wrongdoings of the government? No
> > Did the internet users of America just “adapt” to the FCC trying to control the internet? No
> > Did America just “adapt” to -Yoink!- trying to take over Europe? No
> >
> > So why are you trying to convince people to “adapt” to these horrible new features and changes to a franchise that we know and (used to) love? What is your major malfunction?
> > Why are you letting -Yoink!-(343) take over Europe(Halo and it’s community)?
> >
> > Mark my words, this game is going to fall on it’s face within 3 months of release. I’ll remember to repost this exact post at that time to let you all know. 12/30/14
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> For heavens sake it’s a game…! Relax and adapt…! LOL…!
Im really struggling to see the reasons why people think that this changes have made the game so drastically different from what it always has been. I still feel like I’m playing halo
I totally understand the message you’re trying to get across OP, but I’m going to go ahead an suggest taking out that last part where you compare 343 to -Yoink!-. It just seems a little excessive and I’d hate to see this thread get locked because of one remark you made.
Everything you’re saying is merely opinion, you give absolutely no reasoning as to why it’s garbage other than “it’s different than the other Halos and a large, unnamed group of people are unhappy with it”. In what way has it been “gutted”? Is the competitive side of the game not about teamwork, personal skill, and map control, like it’s always been? Yea, sure, it’s got some new gimmicks and the flow of the game has been sped up but it still very much feels like Halo. I’m still jumping around and head shotting people like I did when I started playing with Halo CE. From the look of the 40 games I’ve played in the last few days, so is everyone else.
In short, there’s no more adaption here than there was from halo CE to halo 2 or from reach to halo 4. It’s still Halo and it’s certainly not being developed by -Yoink!-.
What you want is Call of Duty. To have the same game released to you every time. I like variety so that each Halo game could have a life of it’s own. That means changes every time
If you like the old ones, there’s always Halo MCC. Those play exactly as you like them to. Halo 3 plays just like Halo 3. Halo 4 plays just like Halo 4. Halo CE even plays just like Halo CE pistols all the time with a little bit of rockets.
Plenty of people are loving this game. Although there are things that we all (or most) wish to go (KILLCAMS). They can’t please everyone, it is impossible. If you have THAT many problems with it, then there will be no winning you over and they might has well start from scratch to appease people like you.
As you said, it is the biggest franchise on Xbox. They want it to remain that way. They are trying to stay as true to Halo as possible whilst evolving to bring in a younger audience. Unfortunately all shooters these days have become “speedy”. They have done a great job of integrating this quick movement whilst retaining Halo’s TTK standards.
You think that 30-40 year old men are going to keep the franchise alive? Not a chance.
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> If you like the old ones, there’s always Halo MCC. Those play exactly as you like them to. Halo 3 plays just like Halo 3. Halo 4 plays just like Halo 4. Halo CE even plays just like Halo CE pistols all the time with a little bit of rockets.
CE and 2 are PC ports (big, big difference) and Halo 3 and 4 are un-updated versions. Not like most of us remember, especially considering how trash pre-TU Halo 4 was.
When the MCC has working ranks, proper hit detection, no uneven starts, consistant matching, and possibly updated versions of the games, it’ll be a viable option to guARdians. Until then, classic Halo fans are kind of -Yoinked!-.
At the risk of playing devil’s advocate, I’ll concede that I don’t dislike Halo 5. I don’t know if it would keep me entertained as long as H2 or H3 did. Only time will tell but…
I do completely agree with the OP, this isn’t true to the traditional Halo gameplay style. Sprint, climbing, smart scope and sliding are all gimmicks taken from other licenses (COD, Crysis etc…) that have no place in Halo in my opinion. I quite like how the zoom allows us to float in the air for a few extra seconds on the other hand. It doesn’t feel like it’s been stolen from another series and it seems to fit into the traditional Halo gameplay fairly well (IMO).
In other words, I like the game, but it’s not Halo for me. If the game doesn’t change radically before launch, which I don’t expect it to do I, like the OP, would prefer it to be called something else than Halo. It certainly shouldn’t be a numbered Halo but I didn’t think that H4 should have been given a number either…