People who have great k/d and still cry "tryhard"

I’m sick of seeing people moan about the lack of social game types because they just wanna “relax and not be against tryhards” and then you look at their profile and they have 1.5 k/d and 60% win ratio. YOU’RE the tryhard here . I consider myself an average to good player, I kicked -Yoink- on halo 4 and in halo 5 I still do, but with as many good matches where I get 3.0 k/d or a 10+ kda there will always been another 10 matches where I get destroyed so I end up at about 0.8 the majority of the community will have less than 1.0 so if you’re above that and still consider yourself the casual because you lose a match or 2 in your onyx slayer matches then just please shut up.

If casual gamers truly want social so they can have fun matches without having to be mlg, then onyx players going into the game with just make it everything they didn’t want! You moaning about going against mlg players is the most ridiculously hypocritical thing ever when you yourself will absolutely destroy players that would normally be ranked bronze.

Notes: I know k/d isn’t an entirely accurate representation of skill, a mix of that, kda and win/loss ratio is .

I enjoy btb , it lets me feel as good as I felt in halo 4 where I can get running riots sometimes from a banshee or killing sprees from power weapons , but taking it in turns with my friends who suck at halo and who got 0.1 ratios sucked for them because if you’re a casual you just get wrecked, if they were playing on their own accounts on a ranked playlist they would stand a chance , but instead I just take the hit to my kda and carry on.

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My K/D is a 1.4 because I try when I need to. When I play a social match I hardly use the BR and mainly use other weapons.

So no, some of us are not the tryhards. We sincerely want to play in a relaxed, casual playlist without having to worry about the true tryhards. Just happens that some of us are good at the game and have good K/D’s.

What I’m saying is that if you’re being a good player already then using unranked as a slaughter ground is just unfair. I like be the fact that matches are ranked, it feels really balanced.
And I can’t for the life of me understand why my kd is lower than 1 when I consistently get higher than it. I must have done badly early on and it’s just impossible to recover no matter how many good games you get you’ll always have bad connection/ as bad team or just bad luck to take it down

The problem is even when I’m playing casually I still want to have fun, play decently and ideally win. I wont rage if I do and grief to get there but I’m not going to play badly for the sake of the playlist. I mean sometimes I’m terrible because I’m drunk or tired but If I’m playing good I have fun doing it.

I think thats how most people feel tbh.

How about we don’t take stats into consideration when we’re talking about what the game needs to improve on, because they are irrelevent when we’re talking about the state of the game itself?

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> The problem is even when I’m playing casually I still want to have fun, play decently and ideally win. I wont rage if I do and grief to get there but I’m not going to play badly for the sake of the playlist. I mean sometimes I’m terrible because I’m drunk or tired but If I’m playing good I have fun doing it.
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> I think thats how most people feel tbh.

Well the thing is social still affects your stats, your commendations and still has winners and losers. If I carry a team in breakout and get a trifecta medal or the most kills that feels so much more satisfying than getting a shotgun spree on enemies that literally didnt try to kill me

So someone who has a good kd is a tryhard now? flol some people…

Wish we had some social playlist :slight_smile:

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> How about we don’t take stats into consideration when we’re talking about what the game needs to improve on, because they are irrelevent when we’re talking about the state of the game itself?

What? You’ve missed the point of my post, what I’m doing is questioning the motives of these people who are essentially lying about their experience with the game. I’m still strongly against social for anything other than large games and and action sack modes , btb is fine because it’s big and the skill of an individual rarely matters, the same with warzone.
So yes I’m talking about the state of the game and the improvements I’m saying is don’t make the game “social” I’m bringing stats in the back up my reasons for not liking it so it’s completely relevant

Yup, MMR moves faster than CSR, so your opponents will be tryhards if you are also being a tryhard, regardless of what your little emblem beside your name says.

I’ve even tested this all out on second accounts.

Tried to place low on 2x new accounts. On both, I purposely ranked low purposely… but after placements, I started trying on one, but not the other.
On the one that I started trying on, that’s when I started matching up against other people’s smurf accounts, people ranked platinum but going 30-10 every game, usually searching in a party with a high diamond or Onyx trying to boost… but boosting fails in this game, because the system compensates too quickly and gives them all the hard matches after 3-5 of doing well.

On the other one, I kept playing derpy and the opponents stayed equally derpy… even though we’re only talking about 20-40 matches in to the accounts, the opponents were completely different even though both acounts had the same ranks (high gold/low platinum). I was getting super tryhards on one, and people messing around and sucking on the other.

So I guess the moral of the story is… you are getting tryhard matches because the matchmaking system hidden behind ranks is just smarter than you. It knows when you are being a tryhard and will adjust, so don’t complain when your opponents are also tryhards.

Of course, there’s always the randomness element and sometimes people just get completely screwed over no matter what :stuck_out_tongue:

Edit: I should also mention the rule of unintended consequences here… the fact that MMR compensates so quickly means that ranking up becomes much more about grinding than actually getting better. If you can still beat the other tryhards then it doesn’t matter of course, but it does make it so that lesser-skilled people can EVENTUALLY get a rank they don’t deserve. Because of how the numbers work out, technically everyone can get to Onyx if they just play enough for long enough, even if they keep playing like a Platinum… it just takes them much, much longer.

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> So someone who has a good kd is a tryhard now? flol some people…
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> Wish we had some social playlist :slight_smile:

This post is in reaction to the “too many tryhards where are the casuals” post where the OP had a 1.4 ratio and was moaning about going against mlg players. He was obviously chatting -Yoink- if he was claiming to be struggling and the fact that he wants to go against worse players just so he can feel better about himself is the exact reason I enjoy the rankings. In his post he was labelling anyone who wanted to win a tryhard, and that’s what’s wrong. The aim of the game is to win, so calling someone who is just playing the game a tryhard and getting on his high horse because he believes himself to be the only one who “just wants to have fun” is just utter -Yoink-

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> Yup, MMR moves faster than CSR, so your opponents will be tryhards if you are also being a tryhard, regardless of what your little emblem beside your name says.
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> I’ve even tested this all out on second accounts.
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> Tried to place low on 2x new accounts. On both, I purposely ranked low purposely… but after placements, I started trying on one, but not the other.
> On the one that I started trying on, that’s when I started matching up against other people’s smurf accounts, people ranked platinum but going 30-10 every game, usually searching in a party with a high diamond or Onyx trying to boost… but boosting fails in this game, because the system compensates too quickly and gives them all the hard matches after 3-5 of doing well.
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> On the other one, I kept playing derpy and the opponents stayed equally derpy… even though we’re only talking about 20-40 matches in to the accounts, the opponents were completely different even though both acounts had the same ranks (high gold/low platinum). I was getting super tryhards on one, and people messing around and sucking on the other.
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> So I guess the moral of the story is… you are getting tryhard matches because the matchmaking system hidden behind ranks is just smarter than you. It knows when you are being a tryhard and will adjust, so don’t complain when your opponents are also tryhards.
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> Of course, there’s always the randomness element and sometimes people just get completely screwed over no matter what :stuck_out_tongue:

I’m curious to what MMR is? And I don’t fully understand CSR outside of the ranks. But yes the balancing on this game usually works quite well, obviously early in the season the ranks are screwed up and sometimes people can be ranked poorly because it’s based on team performance .