Does anybody else get annoyed when someone talks about Halo like they know everything about it and say something completely ridiculous? Like for instance someone on youtube was like “isin’t master chief supposed to be like a foot and a half taller than a spartan 4?” or “spartans are just normal people in super suits” or “elites are 12 feet tall” “halo reach isint canon”
Whats some of the stuff you’ve seen that annoys you?
For starters… It was a comment on YOUTUBE. If people their act smart, somethings wrong.
No knowledge of blue team always annoys me.
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> For starters… It was a comment on YOUTUBE. If people their act smart, somethings wrong.
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> No knowledge of blue team always annoys me.
Heh, that reminds me of when this one dude on youtube tried to correct my math (I was originally wrong because I misinterpreted the time lapse relevant to the question and thanks to him I corrected my calculation), but his answer was a little less than 2 times the amount of the actual value.
(the calculation pertained to that sweet space movie Interstellar)
- Stating Chief has the didact/bornstellar’s geas like its fact - Citing pretty much any halo follower theory vid as fact. - To expand on the reach claim, claiming that Reach does major damage to the entire canon, when the exact details of the battle don’t matter at all to the greater canon. Yes its awkward in places, but it really doesn’t do any actual harm beyond some consistency or complexity issues with one book that isnn’t terribly consistent with even halo CE. - People who think chief is some rage guy who’ll do horrible things to people for minor slights. - Speaking overly certainly about…delicate matters of the Forerunner saga which aren’t fully explained while acting like they are. - The ‘X char could always come back’ bunch. - People who seemed to think AI’s just float around in existence even if everything is destroyed. No I’m not talking about my discussion in the other thread. It was more the Cortana survivor bunch pre-h5 who seemed to make it sound like AI’s can just float in existance. Usually this is somehow associated with metastability. - “Spartan-III’s weren’t created till after reach fell” - Claiming X isn’t canon because they don’t like it. - Most locke hate. - Most S-IV hate. - Spartan II’s supposedly having no -Yoink!- drive, when its listed under the RISKS. i dont believe chief is blind. - X wasn’t invented in universe until Y game that first included it, clearly earlier appearances in the timeline are wrong!
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> - Stating Chief has the didact/bornstellar’s geas like its fact
> - Citing pretty much any halo follower theory vid as fact.
> - To expand on the reach claim, claiming that Reach does major damage to the entire canon, when the exact details of the battle don’t matter at all to the greater canon. Yes its awkward in places, but it really doesn’t do any actual harm beyond some consistency or complexity issues with one book that isnn’t terribly consistent with even halo CE.
> - People who think chief is some rage guy who’ll do horrible things to people for minor slights.
> - Speaking overly certainly about…delicate matters of the Forerunner saga which aren’t fully explained while acting like they are.
> - The ‘X char could always come back’ bunch.
> - People who seemed to think AI’s just float around in existence even if everything is destroyed. No I’m not talking about my discussion in the other thread. It was more the Cortana survivor bunch pre-h5 who seemed to make it sound like AI’s can just float in existance. Usually this is somehow associated with metastability.
> - “Spartan-III’s weren’t created till after reach fell”
> - Claiming X isn’t canon because they don’t like it.
> - Most locke hate.
> - Most S-IV hate.
> - Spartan II’s supposedly having no -Yoink!- drive, when its listed under the RISKS. i dont believe chief is blind.
> - X wasn’t invented in universe until Y game that first included it, clearly earlier appearances in the timeline are wrong!
Did you see game theorie’s half a*&#^ video on mjolnir armor?
I dont tend to watch vids on halo lore period.
Was that the one where they talked to the armor specialist though?
Oh, and I guess i’ll add to the list that people seem to think the black parts of the armor aren’t armor. Somehow this goes to the point where ‘atriox is more armored’ despite having clearly open gaps where you can see his skin or very little more than what is clearly cloth.
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> I dont tend to watch vids on halo lore period.
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> Was that the one where they talked to the armor specialist though?
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> Oh, and I guess i’ll add to the list that people seem to think the black parts of the armor aren’t armor…
Matt was trying to bridge the gap b/w lore and gameplay by trying to explain why in halo one hit to the back is one hit and he was making spartans out to be these fragile creatures who can’t be tapped in the back
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> > I dont tend to watch vids on halo lore period.
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> > Was that the one where they talked to the armor specialist though?
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> > Oh, and I guess i’ll add to the list that people seem to think the black parts of the armor aren’t armor…
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> Matt was trying to bridge the gap b/w lore and gameplay by trying to explain why in halo one hit to the back is one hit and he was making spartans out to be these fragile creatures who can’t be tapped in the back
The best part about it was he said it would ‘sever the neural link and crush the spartan alive’
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> Matt was trying to bridge the gap b/w lore and gameplay by trying to explain why in halo one hit to the back is one hit and he was making spartans out to be these fragile creatures who can’t be tapped in the back
Ya i did see that one. I actually didn’t mind most of that vid, but that part was weird.
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> Does anybody else get annoyed when someone talks about Halo like they know everything about it and say something completely ridiculous? Like for instance someone on youtube was like “isin’t master chief supposed to be like a foot and a half taller than a spartan 4?” or “spartans are just normal people in super suits” or “elites are 12 feet tall” “halo reach isint canon”
> Whats some of the stuff you’ve seen that annoys you?
Imperial Admiral Xytan Jar 'Wattinree was said to almost reach 12 ft tall, somewhere close. Though it may have just been his harness.
- To expand on the reach claim, claiming that Reach does major damage to the entire canon, when the exact details of the battle don’t matter at all to the greater canon. Yes its awkward in places, but it really doesn’t do any actual harm beyond some consistency or complexity issues with one book that isnn’t terribly consistent with even halo CE.The thing that gets me besides the Autumn is Reach’s timeskips they extend the battle from 5 hours to 36 days and a month of that is timeskiped. For example Sword base ends July 26th and Nightfall is August 11th which is a 2 week gap of nothing. And then Long Night of Solace takes place August 14th and the Exodus dosen’t begin till the 23rd which is 9 days later. At this point 24 days of the game is time skipped.
I’ll catch people even on the forums not know a clue of what they’re actually saying , research is an endangered species.
Though I do have to add , I so very much wish halo reach wasn’t canon. It -Yoinked!- up a very good book in my opinion
People who state things about the books like they’re fact, even though it’d been revealed later on in the very same book series that it simply isn’t true.
My personal pet peeve is when people say that humanity found a cure and beat the Flood back, even though in Silentium, the Ur-Didact revealed that the Flood retreated to make it seemed like humans found a way to fight them off so that the Forerunners wouldn’t completely wipe out humans (can’t be tested for the Mantle when your species is all gone), which he learned of via the Gravemind with the consciousness of the Primordial. I’ll find the actual quote later and edit it in here.
Here it is!
“I had been blinded by victory, by the awful, energizing, deceiving drug of total triumph. I had wrongly surmised, back on Charum Hakkor, that the Primordial was secure, that nothing could open the timelock and release it. And I had known beyond any shadow of doubt that humans were on the verge of annihilation.
Forthencho, Lord of Admirals, and all his aides and commanders …
We had watched their torment, my wife and I.
Only the threat of the Flood itself could have forced me back from utterly extirpating humanity. And that was how the Flood had saved humanity from our wrath: by first infecting, and then withdrawing, and so implying humans knew of a way to combat or avoid the disease. An astonishing strategic feint, one I cannot help but admire.
Favored by the Flood!
Saving the humans, as many as possible, that was what my wife had desired all along. Only now do I recognize her actions for what they truly were. There can be no darker moment than this. No darker revelation of betrayal. What could I have done, even had I not been exiled into my Cryptum for a thousand years?”
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> - Stating Chief has the didact/bornstellar’s geas like its fact
> - Citing pretty much any halo follower theory vid as fact.
> - To expand on the reach claim, claiming that Reach does major damage to the entire canon, when the exact details of the battle don’t matter at all to the greater canon. Yes its awkward in places, but it really doesn’t do any actual harm beyond some consistency or complexity issues with one book that isnn’t terribly consistent with even halo CE.
> - People who think chief is some rage guy who’ll do horrible things to people for minor slights.
> - Speaking overly certainly about…delicate matters of the Forerunner saga which aren’t fully explained while acting like they are.
> - The ‘X char could always come back’ bunch.
> - People who seemed to think AI’s just float around in existence even if everything is destroyed. No I’m not talking about my discussion in the other thread. It was more the Cortana survivor bunch pre-h5 who seemed to make it sound like AI’s can just float in existance. Usually this is somehow associated with metastability.
> - “Spartan-III’s weren’t created till after reach fell”
> - Claiming X isn’t canon because they don’t like it.
> - Most locke hate.
> - Most S-IV hate.
> - Spartan II’s supposedly having no -Yoink!- drive, when its listed under the RISKS. i dont believe chief is blind.
> - X wasn’t invented in universe until Y game that first included it, clearly earlier appearances in the timeline are wrong!
Who the heck said that the S-3s were made AFTER Reach?
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> > - Stating Chief has the didact/bornstellar’s geas like its fact
> > - Citing pretty much any halo follower theory vid as fact.
> > - To expand on the reach claim, claiming that Reach does major damage to the entire canon, when the exact details of the battle don’t matter at all to the greater canon. Yes its awkward in places, but it really doesn’t do any actual harm beyond some consistency or complexity issues with one book that isnn’t terribly consistent with even halo CE.
> > - People who think chief is some rage guy who’ll do horrible things to people for minor slights.
> > - Speaking overly certainly about…delicate matters of the Forerunner saga which aren’t fully explained while acting like they are.
> > - The ‘X char could always come back’ bunch.
> > - People who seemed to think AI’s just float around in existence even if everything is destroyed. No I’m not talking about my discussion in the other thread. It was more the Cortana survivor bunch pre-h5 who seemed to make it sound like AI’s can just float in existance. Usually this is somehow associated with metastability.
> > - “Spartan-III’s weren’t created till after reach fell”
> > - Claiming X isn’t canon because they don’t like it.
> > - Most locke hate.
> > - Most S-IV hate.
> > - Spartan II’s supposedly having no -Yoink!- drive, when its listed under the RISKS. i dont believe chief is blind.
> > - X wasn’t invented in universe until Y game that first included it, clearly earlier appearances in the timeline are wrong!
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> Who the heck said that the S-3s were made AFTER Reach?
halo follower fans
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> - Stating Chief has the didact/bornstellar’s geas like its fact
It borderline is a fact. If he doesn’t have his geas Bungie and 343 have deliberately made it seem as if he does.Theres the Elysium mythology reference, memories from unknown sources in fall of reach and the Flood, the Two betrayals speech, connections and convergent references to the Security Officer from Marathon who most fans agree was a eternal warrior, “You are Forerunner”, Gravemind addressing Chief when referring to the actions of The Didact, The Didact and Librarians arc in the Halo 3 terminals being written to mirror John and Cortanas arc. The funny thing is I could go on for paragraphs before we even start talking about the 343 era.
I guess the important observation to make is that the theory John is a science fiction reincarnation of the Forerunner who activated the Halo array predates the introduction of the Didact, and the introduction of geas let alone the introduction of the Iso-Didact. Which is to say those that theorized John was an incarnation of the Didact implicitly and explicity predicted geas. The very existence of geas and the Iso-Didact is evidence that the theory might be right.
The other side of the argument rests on absurd premises, like Joseph Staten wrote two betrayals in 2001 to hint that plot twist, Guilty Spark is confused and rampant, and he thinks you have Didacts geas but you really don’t. Or the hundred thousand year old Warden was talking about Johns last name when he said “Cortana knows your forgotten name, who you were before you were 117”.
> People who seemed to think AI’s just float around in existence even if everything is destroyed. No I’m not talking about my discussion in the other thread. It was more the Cortana survivor bunch pre-h5 who seemed to make it sound like AI’s can just float in existance. Usually this is somehow associated with metastability
One idea was that part of Cortana was already partially suspended in slipspace, keep in mind this was before the missing pieces of Halseys journal were released, it wasn’t that ridiculous of a hypothesis. The other idea was that part of Cortana fell into slipspace in such a way that took advantage of the hypothetical benefits of an A.I being suspended in slipspace mentioned in Halseys journal and Reachs data pads. Regardless for all intents and purposes you essentially lost this debate, sorry.
I like that the metastability term from Marathon has gained traction in this community. It definitely applies in this situation. There are definitely strong parallels between what Durandal went through and what Cortana went through. I suspect thats not an accident.
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> People who state things about the books like they’re fact, even though it’d been revealed later on in the very same book series that it simply isn’t true.
> My personal pet peeve is when people say that humanity found a cure and beat the Flood back, even though in Silentium, the Ur-Didact revealed that the Flood retreated to make it seemed like humans found a way to fight them off so that the Forerunners wouldn’t completely wipe out humans (can’t be tested for the Mantle when your species is all gone), which he learned of via the Gravemind with the consciousness of the Primordial. I’ll find the actual quote later and edit it in here.
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> Here it is!
> “I had been blinded by victory, by the awful, energizing, deceiving drug of total triumph. I had wrongly surmised, back on Charum Hakkor, that the Primordial was secure, that nothing could open the timelock and release it. And I had known beyond any shadow of doubt that humans were on the verge of annihilation.
> Forthencho, Lord of Admirals, and all his aides and commanders …
> We had watched their torment, my wife and I.
> Only the threat of the Flood itself could have forced me back from utterly extirpating humanity. And that was how the Flood had saved humanity from our wrath: by first infecting, and then withdrawing, and so implying humans knew of a way to combat or avoid the disease. An astonishing strategic feint, one I cannot help but admire.
> Favored by the Flood!
> Saving the humans, as many as possible, that was what my wife had desired all along. Only now do I recognize her actions for what they truly were. There can be no darker moment than this. No darker revelation of betrayal. What could I have done, even had I not been exiled into my Cryptum for a thousand years?”
I can see why you can still think there is a cure. I mean we only have the Primordials word for it that there is no cure. It serves his purpose to drive his enemy mad with despair to cut out any hope of there being a cure. Granted the logic of saving Humanity through letting the Forerunners believe they are the font of knowledge regarding the cure, makes sense but then again, not weakening the group you wanted to live is a more sure fire way surely.
Also we know some are immune, Johnson springs to mind. So how is it far fetched there is a cure?
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> Does anybody else get annoyed when someone talks about Halo like they know everything about it and say something completely ridiculous? Like for instance someone on youtube was like “isin’t master chief supposed to be like a foot and a half taller than a spartan 4?” or “spartans are just normal people in super suits” or “elites are 12 feet tall” “halo reach isint canon”
> Whats some of the stuff you’ve seen that annoys you?
i think your talking about the 12 year olds that started with halo 5, they disgust me
As someone who is a big Halo lore nerd it really bugged me, during Halo: Reach’s development, when everyone (even Bungie) insisted that S3s are weaker, slower, etc., than S2s, as if some source said so. Ghost of Onyx never demonstrated that, yet the fans seemed to accept it as fact so readily that Bungie – a group of people who probably were too busy making the game to read the book – assumed it must be true. They also probably latched onto it as seemingly fortuitous confluence of how they were adjusting player movement and mechanics with book canon.
It was an annoying point in time. But now it’s canon, so meh.
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> > > Was that the one where they talked to the armor specialist though?
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> > > Oh, and I guess i’ll add to the list that people seem to think the black parts of the armor aren’t armor…
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> > Matt was trying to bridge the gap b/w lore and gameplay by trying to explain why in halo one hit to the back is one hit and he was making spartans out to be these fragile creatures who can’t be tapped in the back
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> The best part about it was he said it would 'sever the neural link and crush the spartan alive’
That part bothers the -Yoink- out of me because that’s not how the neural implant and link work. If it was, then every time a Spartan took off their helmet they’d end up crushing themselves to death.
I just explain the beatdowns with "They can lift a tank, so if they hit you with that sort of force, your neck or spine is going to break, which either kills you or cripples you for life.
I knew someone who thought that the Covenant was called the Confederate. Not kidding.