People don't seem to understand.

I’ve read a lot of posts around here claiming that the beta “felt like Halo” because it brought back equal starts and static weapon spawns. While those are definitely a nice touch, and are a step in the right direction it still doesn’t make it Halo. You could add those things to CoD, or Battlefield, or Titanfall and it would still clearly not be a Halo game. IMO Halo 4 felt more Halo than the beta did. The movement speed, kill times, visuals, and sounds were all more Halo than what I saw in the beta.

Just something that has been bothering me.

On a positive note, all the changes seem to be great. Just wish that they would have addressed kill times a little bit. Sure automatics are harder to use now but I would have liked for them to directly state that the time to kill is going up.

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What the -Yoink- are you on about? Not only is there Halo arena gameplay, but you have your classc shields, weapons, hipfiring, modes, etc. To even say that Halo 4 MP even resembles Halo is plain stupidity.

I feel ya. Halo 4 feels closer to Halo than this one, and that game was a DISASTER.

343 keeps trying to “reinvent” Halo and look where it’s gotten them. Two horrible games, a split community, and absolutely zero willingness to listen to us. Its bad when we have to celebrate the removal of new features and praise the reintroduction of old ones.

There’s a sprint toggle now? So what, they weren’t planning it before?

Equal starts and map control/power weapons? Again, the fact that they needed community feedback to put these staples back in the franchise is a real clear sign of how incompetent these clowns are. But of course, I “hate change” and should go play MCC if I want classic Halo.

Oh wait, it’s broken.

You know, I respect your opinion when you say that it felt like Halo 4 to you, but to me, it felt a lot like classic Halo. You know, we all have different opinions regarding what we think feels like a Halo game. Who is anybody to tell others that a game does not feel like Halo?

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> The basic movement and gunplay felt exactly like Halo to me.

Agreed. Best Halo to date in fact.

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> I’ve read a lot of posts around here claiming that the beta “felt like Halo” because it brought back equal starts and static weapon spawns. While those are definitely a nice touch, and are a step in the right direction it still doesn’t make it Halo. You could add those things to CoD, or Battlefield, or Titanfall and it would still clearly not be a Halo game. IMO Halo 4 felt more Halo than the beta did. The movement speed, kill times, visuals, and sounds were all more Halo than what I saw in the beta.
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> Just something that has been bothering me.
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> On a positive note, all the changes seem to be great. Just wish that they would have addressed kill times a little bit. Sure automatics are harder to use now but I would have liked for them to directly state that the time to kill is going up.

I dont think that Halo 5 plays like halo because solely because of those things, I think it plays like halo because the core is still there guns, grenades, and melee the golden triangle, thats all still there in halo 5 and actually a very integral part of halo have. All that other stuff helps balance the Guns, grenades, and melee.

As for the movement speeds I would actually say halo 5 felt far more like halo CE-3 then halo 4. the kill time and a perfectly in between halo CE and halo 2, and i dont understand how people say the sounds are bad in halo 5 but thats preference, added to the fact that it was a beta at least 8 months away. its hardly finalized

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> I’ve read a lot of posts around here claiming that the beta “felt like Halo” because it brought back equal starts and static weapon spawns. While those are definitely a nice touch, and are a step in the right direction it still doesn’t make it Halo. You could add those things to CoD, or Battlefield, or Titanfall and it would still clearly not be a Halo game. IMO Halo 4 felt more Halo than the beta did. The movement speed, kill times, visuals, and sounds were all more Halo than what I saw in the beta.

I mean, what can I say. I played the beta for three weeks and it felt like every other Halo game. You could absolutely add these features into CoD, Battlefield, or Titanfall and it wouldn’t be Halo but that’s irrelevant since this is Halo, not anything else.

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> I feel ya. Halo 4 feels closer to Halo than this one, and that game was a DISASTER.
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> 343 keeps trying to “reinvent” Halo and look where it’s gotten them. Two horrible games, a split community, and absolutely zero willingness to listen to us. Its bad when we have to celebrate the removal of new features and praise the reintroduction of old ones.
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> There’s a sprint toggle now? So what, they weren’t planning it before?
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> Equal starts and map control/power weapons? Again, the fact that they needed community feedback to put these staples back in the franchise is a real clear sign of how incompetent these clowns are. But of course, I “hate change” and should go play MCC if I want classic Halo.
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> Oh wait, it’s broken.

People like you should shut up, i have read countless times how reach did not feel like halo, but when 4 released, reach felt like Halo, and 4 did not. People hated 4, being to cod-like killing the franchise yadi yadi yada… And now people are saying h5 doesnt feel like halo while 4 does, plz before you comment think about how it affects the community and your surroundings.

And you obvoiusly dont like what 343 has done so far with 4 and now 5, why are you here then? A forum about halo games that is made by the people you hate, just find something selse to do, plz…

Halo 4 felt like Reach 2 to me. I loved them all, but they were not the same as 1-3 they were different in my mind.

Halo 5 felt like Halo 4, by which I mean it felt more like a sequel of H 1-3, not Reach 3. Sorry if this post does not make sense to you, but its how I feel in my head lol.

Your mind is deluded.

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> On a positive note, all the changes seem to be great. Just wish that they would have addressed kill times a little bit. Sure automatics are harder to use now but I would have liked for them to directly state that the time to kill is going up.

Kill times are actually in between CE and h2, that’s about as halo as you can get.

Movement speed is being increased as the player base asked. It’s also difficult to nail movement speed as its actually all over the place in the original games.

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> > I feel ya. Halo 4 feels closer to Halo than this one, and that game was a DISASTER.
> >
> > 343 keeps trying to “reinvent” Halo and look where it’s gotten them. Two horrible games, a split community, and absolutely zero willingness to listen to us. Its bad when we have to celebrate the removal of new features and praise the reintroduction of old ones.
> >
> > There’s a sprint toggle now? So what, they weren’t planning it before?
> >
> > Equal starts and map control/power weapons? Again, the fact that they needed community feedback to put these staples back in the franchise is a real clear sign of how incompetent these clowns are. But of course, I “hate change” and should go play MCC if I want classic Halo.
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> > Oh wait, it’s broken.
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> People like you should shut up, i have read countless times how reach did not feel like halo, but when 4 released, reach felt like Halo, and 4 did not. People hated 4, being to cod-like killing the franchise yadi yadi yada… And now people are saying h5 doesnt feel like halo while 4 does, plz before you comment think about how it affects the community and your surroundings.
>
> And you obvoiusly dont like what 343 has done so far with 4 and now 5, why are you here then? A forum about halo games that is made by the people you hate, just find something selse to do, plz…

I’m here because I have an opinion, just like you. People like YOU should shut up, because you obviously have no idea what Halo feels like. Oh wait, that argument doesn’t work? Neither does yours. You’re probably the same guy who defends the MCC’s problems and how Halo 4 “evolved” the franchise. Enjoy Halo 5 having the same 3 month lifespan as Halo 4. It IS being Codified, just wait until they use the low population numbers in MCC as an excuse to claim classic Halo isn’t well received and further “evolve” Halo by just copy and pasting features from other games instead of making actual meaningful change to their game.

I don’t think it’s being turned into cod, but it’s definitely becoming more generic, like it had some halo aspects in the gameplay(while I agree equal starts is not all that halo is, it is part of it at least), but it also has un halo aspects, and those un halo aspects hinder the game significantly, keeping it from reaching its full potential.

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> I don’t think it’s being turned into cod, but it’s definitely becoming more generic, like it had some halo aspects in the gameplay(while I agree equal starts is not all that halo is, it is part of it at least), but it also has un halo aspects, and those un halo aspects hinder the game significantly, keeping it from reaching its full potential.

To me, I think it’s on its way to become CoD. The musical score went from ancient and epic to techno and underwhelming, classic weapon designs hmmSPNKR being changed to fit a modern military interpretation, changing features on weapons that are functionally the same for no reason other than to appeal to kids who need every game to play their favorite modern military shooter. Is it still Halo? Yes, but it’s on its way out. And with people like Readyuplive and Halo5follower leading the hype (remember how good Halo 4 turned out to be after riding that hype train?) the vast majority will side with them, forgetting how all of these new abilities are impacting the game.

Kill times × a thousand!!! Where have you been this whole time?! I thought I was the only one! Kill times are THE biggest issue in H5. There are certainly others but the greatness that is Halo is being able to get shot and turn and kill a dude/chick or 2 with LEARNED game mechanics. Can’t respond with military shooter like kill times.

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> > 2533274929479318;14:
> > I don’t think it’s being turned into cod, but it’s definitely becoming more generic, like it had some halo aspects in the gameplay(while I agree equal starts is not all that halo is, it is part of it at least), but it also has un halo aspects, and those un halo aspects hinder the game significantly, keeping it from reaching its full potential.
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> To me, I think it’s on its way to become CoD. The musical score went from ancient and epic to techno and underwhelming, classic weapon designs hmmSPNKR being changed to fit a modern military interpretation, changing features on weapons that are functionally the same for no reason other than to appeal to kids who need every game to play their favorite modern military shooter. Is it still Halo? Yes, but it’s on its way out. And with people like Readyuplive and Halo5follower leading the hype (remember how good Halo 4 turned out to be after riding that hype train?) the vast majority will side with them, forgetting how all of these new abilities are impacting the game.

^ nailed it

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> > > I feel ya. Halo 4 feels closer to Halo than this one, and that game was a DISASTER.
> > >
> > > 343 keeps trying to “reinvent” Halo and look where it’s gotten them. Two horrible games, a split community, and absolutely zero willingness to listen to us. Its bad when we have to celebrate the removal of new features and praise the reintroduction of old ones.
> > >
> > > There’s a sprint toggle now? So what, they weren’t planning it before?
> > >
> > > Equal starts and map control/power weapons? Again, the fact that they needed community feedback to put these staples back in the franchise is a real clear sign of how incompetent these clowns are. But of course, I “hate change” and should go play MCC if I want classic Halo.
> > >
> > > Oh wait, it’s broken.
> >
> >
> >
> > People like you should shut up, i have read countless times how reach did not feel like halo, but when 4 released, reach felt like Halo, and 4 did not. People hated 4, being to cod-like killing the franchise yadi yadi yada… And now people are saying h5 doesnt feel like halo while 4 does, plz before you comment think about how it affects the community and your surroundings.
> >
> > And you obvoiusly dont like what 343 has done so far with 4 and now 5, why are you here then? A forum about halo games that is made by the people you hate, just find something selse to do, plz…
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> I’m here because I have an opinion, just like you. People like YOU should shut up, because you obviously have no idea what Halo feels like. Oh wait, that argument doesn’t work? Neither does yours. You’re probably the same guy who defends the MCC’s problems and how Halo 4 “evolved” the franchise. Enjoy Halo 5 having the same 3 month lifespan as Halo 4. It IS being Codified, just wait until they use the low population numbers in MCC as an excuse to claim classic Halo isn’t well received and further “evolve” Halo by just copy and pasting features from other games instead of making actual meaningful change to their game.

Daaaaaammmn. Got 'em coach.

Can I buy you a drink?

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> > > > I feel ya. Halo 4 feels closer to Halo than this one, and that game was a DISASTER.
> > > >
> > > > 343 keeps trying to “reinvent” Halo and look where it’s gotten them. Two horrible games, a split community, and absolutely zero willingness to listen to us. Its bad when we have to celebrate the removal of new features and praise the reintroduction of old ones.
> > > >
> > > > There’s a sprint toggle now? So what, they weren’t planning it before?
> > > >
> > > > Equal starts and map control/power weapons? Again, the fact that they needed community feedback to put these staples back in the franchise is a real clear sign of how incompetent these clowns are. But of course, I “hate change” and should go play MCC if I want classic Halo.
> > > >
> > > > Oh wait, it’s broken.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > People like you should shut up, i have read countless times how reach did not feel like halo, but when 4 released, reach felt like Halo, and 4 did not. People hated 4, being to cod-like killing the franchise yadi yadi yada… And now people are saying h5 doesnt feel like halo while 4 does, plz before you comment think about how it affects the community and your surroundings.
> > >
> > > And you obvoiusly dont like what 343 has done so far with 4 and now 5, why are you here then? A forum about halo games that is made by the people you hate, just find something selse to do, plz…
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> >
> >
> > I’m here because I have an opinion, just like you. People like YOU should shut up, because you obviously have no idea what Halo feels like. Oh wait, that argument doesn’t work? Neither does yours. You’re probably the same guy who defends the MCC’s problems and how Halo 4 “evolved” the franchise. Enjoy Halo 5 having the same 3 month lifespan as Halo 4. It IS being Codified, just wait until they use the low population numbers in MCC as an excuse to claim classic Halo isn’t well received and further “evolve” Halo by just copy and pasting features from other games instead of making actual meaningful change to their game.
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> Daaaaaammmn. Got 'em coach.
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> Can I buy you a drink?

You most certainly can :smiley:

> 2533274859193782;4:
> I feel ya. Halo 4 feels closer to Halo than this one, and that game was a DISASTER.
>
> 343 keeps trying to “reinvent” Halo and look where it’s gotten them. Two horrible games, a split community, and absolutely zero willingness to listen to us. Its bad when we have to celebrate the removal of new features and praise the reintroduction of old ones.
>
> There’s a sprint toggle now? So what, they weren’t planning it before?
>
> Equal starts and map control/power weapons? Again, the fact that they needed community feedback to put these staples back in the franchise is a real clear sign of how incompetent these clowns are. But of course, I “hate change” and should go play MCC if I want classic Halo.
>
> Oh wait, it’s broken.

trying to reinvent the wheel when the existing wheel works fine why?