So what’s with the pelican in the books versus the pelican in the games? In The Fall of Reach, single pelicans were able to transport all the Spartan children during training missions, and even later when they’re all equipped with full MJOLNIR. In the Cole Protocol, a single pelican transports dozens of ODSTs onto an insurrectionist frigate. In the games, Pelicans have, what, 10 seats on either side of the troop bay, with not much space in between? Could these Pelicans all be the same, or are there much larger variants we simply don’t know about? Just wondering if there’s been any clarification on this.
View of a Pelican Troopbay from the Cockpit, halo: Reach. Looks like a ton of room in there if everyone stood up. There is also a attachment to the Pelican that Allowed for it to carry extra personnel. Troop attachment
Huh. I’m skeptical about thirty+ Spartans and their equipment fitting into the back of an ordinary pelican, but I spose if you add the troop attachment it adds up. I’ve also been replaying Halo CE lately, which has a much smaller-seeming troop bay than in later games. But thanks for the pics, that definitely helps clear that up.
It’s not so much the capacity that troubles me- as you said, strip out the seats/stand up and you could easily get a platoon in full gear in there. (as happens in Cole Protocol). What gets me is the lift capability…
We know they can transport multiple Spartans - Sigma Octanus IV evac manages to cram 30ish Spartans, a dozen marines and some civilians all into one craft, and Read team en rout to Reach all fit in one pelican. (the training sections of the Fall of Reach has retconned it to 75 children in an Albatross). In halo 2 Sgt. Johnson shows that it can lift 66 Tons without a problem, yet in ‘The Flood’ they seem to struggle with just 15 ODST’S in the back… for all its size, you would hope that it’s a bit better than at least modern day Chinook helicopters.
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> It’s not so much the capacity that troubles me- as you said, strip out the seats/stand up and you could easily get a platoon in full gear in there. (as happens in Cole Protocol). What gets me is the lift capability…
> We know they can transport multiple Spartans - Sigma Octanus IV evac manages to cram 30ish Spartans, a dozen marines and some civilians all into one craft, and Read team en rout to Reach all fit in one pelican. (the training sections of the Fall of Reach has retconned it to 75 children in an Albatross). In halo 2 Sgt. Johnson shows that it can lift 66 Tons without a problem, yet in ‘The Flood’ they seem to struggle with just 15 ODST’S in the back… for all its size, you would hope that it’s a bit better than at least modern day Chinook helicopters.
Red team + civvies + marines in one Pelican… I just feel like the cramped space and lack of maneuverability within the Pelican would be more of a talking point in the descriptions, and I don’t remember that being a detail at all. And as for the Pelican struggling with 15 ODSTs in ‘The Flood,’ well… I take everything in that book with several grains of salt lol (particularly the Chief’s superfluous dialogue, which I’ve edited out of my head canon).
I feel like there should be more seats in the Pelicans… There probably would be modified pelicans with more seats too. Sort of like
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A public transport bus that’s 12M long or so can carry a lot more people so…
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They might have not meant pelicans in the books they might have meant Condor. They are much bigger and they are meant for the autonomous transportation of troops for special operations.
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> Huh. I’m skeptical about thirty+ Spartans and their equipment fitting into the back of an ordinary pelican, but I spose if you add the troop attachment it adds up. I’ve also been replaying Halo CE lately, which has a much smaller-seeming troop bay than in later games. But thanks for the pics, that definitely helps clear that up.
It was 22 SII Commandos from my knowledge
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> They might have not meant pelicans in the books they might have meant Condor. They are much bigger and they are meant for the autonomous transportation of troops for special operations.
No it was a pelican that dropped Red Team off at reach and they did canonize there being a larger variant because the SIII’s were transported on a Pelican for their augmentations according to the Reach live action trailer thing which Halopedia classes as canon
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> So what’s with the pelican in the books versus the pelican in the games? In The Fall of Reach, single pelicans were able to transport all the Spartan children during training missions, and even later when they’re all equipped with full MJOLNIR. In the Cole Protocol, a single pelican transports dozens of ODSTs onto an insurrectionist frigate. In the games, Pelicans have, what, 10 seats on either side of the troop bay, with not much space in between? Could these Pelicans all be the same, or are there much larger variants we simply don’t know about? Just wondering if there’s been any clarification on this.
Actually when they were training that was an albatross
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> This pelican?
> http://www.halopedia.org/Bravo_001
But we all know that pelican isn’t actual size. It has been reduced. Just like the Longsword Bomber on the Tempest map
Hey as long as its not a DT79 I’m cool. To this day I will never understand why 343 redesigned the Pelican, the Forward Unto Dawn, and Chief’s armor.