Please I BEG of someone get RID of all iterations of THIS map in matchmaking. It is one of the worst maps I have EVER played on in ANY FPS up until this date. It seems broken to me. Once one team has the upper hand (figurativly and literally) the odds rarely change. Did I just have a horrible game…YES…did I get spawn killed by a Banshee…YES…was I all but alone YES (one of 4/8). Worst game I have EVERRRR been a part of. I am by far not a “pro” player but this and the frequency of Hemmorage and Boneyard in BTB are why I rarely play it. If you don’t want to take it out at LEAST remove the BANSHEE in favor of Falcons. I don’t care if it is replaced with a friggin Mongoose, but something about this map NEEDs to change FAST.
I hardly ever play on these maps anymore. When i did, i liked Utopie over Paradiso however. It flowed much better IMO and it was much more accessible.
However, a map isn’t bad because you got spawn trapped. Your team simply lost map and vehicle control, which was punished accordingly. That’s the risk of playing BTB/Invasion; going up against full teams who know how to set up and the fact that your team mates can quit on you as well.
Take out the Banshee with Falcon and you’ll still get spawn trapped by Warthogs and Tanks. Not to mention snipers too. It’s something in BTB that can’t be avoided. Even randoms spawn trap when given the chance but does that make it wrong when you are the one dealing the hurt?
Still as far as bad maps go, Pinnacle, Noob Base, and Uncaged take the cake as one of the worst maps in Reach.
Had to release a BIT of rage…lol. There should be more spawns IN cover and not completely out in the open. I do like Utopie better than Paradisio too, and as far as vehicle control…we had none to begin with. Power weapons were non-existant. I didn’t even see any tanks but I think I would rather deal with them and Warthogs rather than the annoying guy Banshee bombing everyone!
Out of the other maps you listed the one I like least HAS to be Un-Caged which IMO wider walkways would make the map a BIT more playable. (I hate not being able to strafe like I want) Sword Base I like simply because it isn’t a Forge World map and it somewhat pleases my eyes.
I also think Boardwalk should be taken out of TS and moved to BTB games only. I have had some fun TS games there, but the very FEW BTB games I played were more action packed. You didn’t have to tansverse the WHOLE map just to find one person.
Anyway back to my rant Utopie sucks, AFKers suck, Quitters suck, Banshee noobs…you guys suck too…lol
> Had to release a BIT of rage…lol. There should be more spawns IN cover and not completely out in the open. I do like Utopie better than Paradisio too, and as far as vehicle control…we had none to begin with. Power weapons were non-existant. I didn’t even see any tanks but I think I would rather deal with them and Warthogs rather than the annoying guy Banshee bombing everyone!
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> Out of the other maps you listed the one I like least HAS to be Un-Caged which IMO wider walkways would make the map a BIT more playable. (I hate not being able to strafe like I want) Sword Base I like simply because it isn’t a Forge World map and it somewhat pleases my eyes.
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> I also think Boardwalk should be taken out of TS and moved to BTB games only. I have had some fun TS games there, but the very FEW BTB games I played were more action packed. You didn’t have to tansverse the WHOLE map just to find one person.
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> Anyway back to my rant Utopie sucks, AFKers suck, Quitters suck, <mark>Banshee noobs</mark>…you guys suck too…lol
Tsss, you suck! :’(
Not that I ever play BTB, but if I do, I’m the one spawn killing with the Banshee. 
You just need at least 4 people shooting at it and it will get destroyed in seconds.
> > Had to release a BIT of rage…lol. There should be more spawns IN cover and not completely out in the open. I do like Utopie better than Paradisio too, and as far as vehicle control…we had none to begin with. Power weapons were non-existant. I didn’t even see any tanks but I think I would rather deal with them and Warthogs rather than the annoying guy Banshee bombing everyone!
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> > Out of the other maps you listed the one I like least HAS to be Un-Caged which IMO wider walkways would make the map a BIT more playable. (I hate not being able to strafe like I want) Sword Base I like simply because it isn’t a Forge World map and it somewhat pleases my eyes.
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> > I also think Boardwalk should be taken out of TS and moved to BTB games only. I have had some fun TS games there, but the very FEW BTB games I played were more action packed. You didn’t have to tansverse the WHOLE map just to find one person.
> >
> > Anyway back to my rant Utopie sucks, AFKers suck, Quitters suck, <mark>Banshee noobs</mark>…you guys suck too…lol
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> Tsss, you suck! :’(
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> Not that I ever play BTB, but if I do, I’m the one spawn killing with the Banshee.
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> You just need at least 4 people shooting at it and it will get destroyed in seconds.
That would work if you didn’t have the rest of the enemy team raining bullets down on your from the mountain.
> > > Had to release a BIT of rage…lol. There should be more spawns IN cover and not completely out in the open. I do like Utopie better than Paradisio too, and as far as vehicle control…we had none to begin with. Power weapons were non-existant. I didn’t even see any tanks but I think I would rather deal with them and Warthogs rather than the annoying guy Banshee bombing everyone!
> > >
> > > Out of the other maps you listed the one I like least HAS to be Un-Caged which IMO wider walkways would make the map a BIT more playable. (I hate not being able to strafe like I want) Sword Base I like simply because it isn’t a Forge World map and it somewhat pleases my eyes.
> > >
> > > I also think Boardwalk should be taken out of TS and moved to BTB games only. I have had some fun TS games there, but the very FEW BTB games I played were more action packed. You didn’t have to tansverse the WHOLE map just to find one person.
> > >
> > > Anyway back to my rant Utopie sucks, AFKers suck, Quitters suck, <mark>Banshee noobs</mark>…you guys suck too…lol
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> > Tsss, you suck! :’(
> >
> > Not that I ever play BTB, but if I do, I’m the one spawn killing with the Banshee.
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> > You just need at least 4 people shooting at it and it will get destroyed in seconds.
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> That would work if you didn’t have the rest of the enemy team raining bullets down on your from the mountain.
Then get map control and don’t stand in the open shooting in the sky…
Last time my team was getting spawn killed was when my nooby friends desperatly wanted to play BTB with me, yet I still went positive because I play smart. If you stay in the base or caves they will eventually walk to you and then you can just out-DMR them. And if you’re not a good player then you just hide, yes it sounds weak, but what else? Getting spawnkilled and go negative 30?
> > > > Had to release a BIT of rage…lol. There should be more spawns IN cover and not completely out in the open. I do like Utopie better than Paradisio too, and as far as vehicle control…we had none to begin with. Power weapons were non-existant. I didn’t even see any tanks but I think I would rather deal with them and Warthogs rather than the annoying guy Banshee bombing everyone!
> > > >
> > > > Out of the other maps you listed the one I like least HAS to be Un-Caged which IMO wider walkways would make the map a BIT more playable. (I hate not being able to strafe like I want) Sword Base I like simply because it isn’t a Forge World map and it somewhat pleases my eyes.
> > > >
> > > > I also think Boardwalk should be taken out of TS and moved to BTB games only. I have had some fun TS games there, but the very FEW BTB games I played were more action packed. You didn’t have to tansverse the WHOLE map just to find one person.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway back to my rant Utopie sucks, AFKers suck, Quitters suck, <mark>Banshee noobs</mark>…you guys suck too…lol
> > >
> > > Tsss, you suck! :’(
> > >
> > > Not that I ever play BTB, but if I do, I’m the one spawn killing with the Banshee.
> > >
> > > You just need at least 4 people shooting at it and it will get destroyed in seconds.
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> > That would work if you didn’t have the rest of the enemy team raining bullets down on your from the mountain.
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> Then get map control and don’t stand in the open shooting in the sky…
> Last time my team was getting spawn killed was when my nooby friends desperatly wanted to play BTB with me, yet I still went positive because I play smart. If you stay in the base or caves they will eventually walk to you and then you can just out-DMR them. And if you’re not a good player then you just hide, yes it sounds weak, but what else? Getting spawnkilled and go negative 30?
Just wondering, you have payed a highly skilled team before on that map right? It can be near impossible to remove their entire team if one mistake is made.
Yes, I can hide in my base, but if they have the lead, why would they want to come down? to end the game faster is the only option I see.
Going back to having already lost map control, most people start quitting. I don’t like doing that. Usually I am stuck trying to hide when not spawning in the open.
The map is fine, just DMR starts make it feel like a broken Highground.
I actually liked Paradiso, but I can never figure out the weapon spawns in Utopie (I don’t play BTB often). Are you sure you aren’t having the problem I always have with BTB? Your facing a party of 8 that is just stat -Yoink!-.
> Please I BEG of someone get RID of all iterations of THIS map in matchmaking. It is one of the worst maps I have EVER played on in ANY FPS up until this date. It seems broken to me. Once one team has the upper hand (figurativly and literally) the odds rarely change. Did I just have a horrible game…YES…did I get spawn killed by a Banshee…YES…was I all but alone YES (one of 4/8). Worst game I have EVERRRR been a part of. I am by far not a “pro” player but this and the frequency of Hemmorage and Boneyard in BTB are why I rarely play it. If you don’t want to take it out at LEAST remove the BANSHEE in favor of Falcons. I don’t care if it is replaced with a friggin Mongoose, but something about this map NEEDs to change FAST.
There is no way utopie is worse than pinnacle, boardwalk, spire or SWORD BASE.