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P-51

I never found the map that bad, but then again, I’ve never been on the recieving end of a spawn trap on the map.

I don’t think playing something only 5 times is enough to judge how good or bad it is. Granted it’s symmetrical, but you’ve already come to a conclusion and you haven’t even played as the blue team yet. Anyway, the creator of the map has been posting in the thread linked below if you want to post your thoughts there, or maybe he’ll see this thread as well.

https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/6e35355aecdf4fd0acdaee3cc4156fd4/topics/btb-spawntrapping-paradise/e4f6611a-3d9a-4a18-b467-dc36b9943808/posts

The map is superb, well crafted, balanced AF, and really hard to spawn trap. Your team just wasn’t performing well together, or using teamwork at all for that matter. Ancestor isn’t going anywhere.

I think what you’re describing happened to me once or twice. I actually like Ancestor for the most part because of the lack of many human weapons and that makes it a good contrast to Eagle Square where the plasma pistol is the one non human weapon. The map is pretty small for a BTB map, but in most of the reasonably balanced games it seems there is a tug of war over the top of the building.

I like ancestor. I lose most of the matches I play on it, but that’s more because my teammates have never considered the possibility that if lots of people shoot at the banshee, it will not sweep our team

was this an actual map or was it forged?

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> was this an actual map or was it forged?

Forged. Theres not been a single 343 made map in well over a year.

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> > was this an actual map or was it forged?
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> Forged. Theres not been a single 343 made map in well over a year.

I made Ancestor with my friend weeeeemann. Despite the original post, thank you for the support. No map is perfect, no map is ever truly finished.

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> Spawn kills are way too easy to get, and there is no real balance for the map. If one team controls mid, they’ll control it the whole game. You have to fight an uphill battle to do anything, spawn is down in the ground in the back of the map, so good luck even getting out of that.

There are teleporters outside both bases that let you counter the top of the structure. It’s great for sweeping the top floor if enemy controlled. Just a quick tip in case you haven’t found them yet.

yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes!!!
the best thing about that map is camo

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> > 2533274907200114;8:
> > > 2535444186389095;7:
> > > was this an actual map or was it forged?
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> > Forged. Theres not been a single 343 made map in well over a year.
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> I made Ancestor with my friend weeeeemann. Despite the original post, thank you for the support. No map is perfect, no map is ever truly finished.

Ancestor is pretty damn close though. It’s by far the best BTB map in Halo 5 and most people who’ve played it don’t share the OP’s opinion. I love the fact that it takes an old location and makes it into a great map. I hope 343 do more of that in the future. Also it’s pretty much the only way to get the sentinel beam commendation without Warzone or Super Fiesta.

I like you hated ancestor early on. NOW I LOVE IT!. My advice?

Git gud. No literally. Off spawn go for the wraith, banshee, invis, or scattershot and go control the hill. Once I started playing smarter my team would succeed.

If your team keeps quitting most times it’s because they’re getting killed over and over. That means you have to take initiative and take out the banshee with hydra or plasma pistol, and same for that enemy wraith that decided to come to your side of the base to spawn kill. When I play less selfishly and focus on taking out the main threats I find my teammates don’t quit as often. Unfortunately you gotta make some sacrifice in the shirt run to have a more fun game.

The map isn’t without flaws but it’s still very good.

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> Also it’s pretty much the only way to get the sentinel beam commendation without Warzone or Super Fiesta.

Risen also has a sentinel beam.

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> > Also it’s pretty much the only way to get the sentinel beam commendation without Warzone or Super Fiesta.
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> Risen also has a sentinel beam.

It does? I don’t think I’ve seen it before on that map.

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> It does? I don’t think I’ve seen it before on that map.

Yeah, it spawns in the room behind the overshield and grenade launcher.

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> > It does? I don’t think I’ve seen it before on that map.
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> Yeah, it spawns in the room behind the overshield and grenade launcher.

I can’t remember if I’ve somehow never seen it or just can’t remember it. Thanks for letting me know.

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> > > It does? I don’t think I’ve seen it before on that map.
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> > Yeah, it spawns in the room behind the overshield and grenade launcher.
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> I can’t remember if I’ve somehow never seen it or just can’t remember it. Thanks for letting me know.

Can confirm, the Sentinel Beam is located within the cliffside room behind the Overshield and Grenade Launcher platforms.

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> > > 2535455681930574;15:
> > > It does? I don’t think I’ve seen it before on that map.
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> > Yeah, it spawns in the room behind the overshield and grenade launcher.
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> I can’t remember if I’ve somehow never seen it or just can’t remember it. Thanks for letting me know.

Its not a part of the map a lot of people frequent. They go into that room, cut straight across to the other door and don’t look around the back of the room.
Personally I think risen is garbage and hands down the worst map ever seen in BTB but that’s just me. So many issues with map flow. So bad. I literally dashboard every single time it comes up no matter if im in a party or not.

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> > 2535455681930574;17:
> > > 2727626560040591;16:
> > > > 2535455681930574;15:
> > > > It does? I don’t think I’ve seen it before on that map.
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> > > Yeah, it spawns in the room behind the overshield and grenade launcher.
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> > I can’t remember if I’ve somehow never seen it or just can’t remember it. Thanks for letting me know.
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> Its not a part of the map a lot of people frequent. They go into that room, cut straight across to the other door and don’t look around the back of the room.
> Personally I think risen is garbage and hands down the worst map ever seen in BTB but that’s just me. So many issues with map flow. So bad. I literally dashboard every single time it comes up no matter if im in a party or not.

Strange. Risen is one of my favorite BTB maps. It’s also extremely gorgeous.