OUR CONCERNS: Post-E3 Campaign & Multiplayer

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Welcome to one of what I assume to be many Halo 4 concern threads to come. Let’s try and keep things a bit neater and isolate our grievances in only a few topics. You are more than welcome to add any of your own questions or concerns about Halo 4 in this thread. If a sticky topic is made, I will link it here.

Originally, this post was created to answer a few questions I had about Halo 4. The community provided me with a few ideas, some of which I knew myself, but prompted more questions and dialogue. As such, I edited the OP to redirect this threads purpose. It is my new goal to have a single point of reference discussing the Halo community’s concerns about Halo 4.

To start things off, the original list of questions may be found within the first spoiler tag. I have added plausible answers to each question offered from community members. The answers colored in green are ones that seem fairly accurate in accordance with factual information. Items in red are answers needing revision or further explanation from official sources. The second spoiler tag contains a very much abbreviated list of concerns members of the Halo community have about Halo 4. They are statements developed from the information we have been provided thus far. Feel free to browse both lists at your leisure.

List of Questions

  • Why would the Spartan IVs be fighting each other in War Games during a hostile environment such as Requiem (crashed/boarded ship, unknown/Covenant invaders, etc…)?

  • PLAUSIBLE ANSWER:* War Games seems to take place before or after Halo 4’s campaign sequence.

  • Did the UNSC conveniently forget to bring their close range weapons (SMG, Shotgun, etc…) in hopes of finding a Forerunner/Covenant replacement?

  • PLAUSIBLE ANSWER:* The UNSC was planning on performing R&D with replacement items???

  • What persuaded the Covenant to leave some of their most notable and destructive weapons behind (Plasma Rifle, Beam Rifle, Fuel Rod Gun, etc…)?

  • PLAUSIBLE ANSWER:* Being disbanded, the remnants of the Covenant only have access to certain items. Let us forget how prominent the Plasma Rifle has been in every iteration of the lore.

  • How did the Master Chief forget how to pick up and use two one-handed weapons at the same time?

  • PLAUSIBLE ANSWER:* Gameplay…

  • Where did the remaining Spartan IIs and IIIs end up going after they left Trevelyan?

  • PLAUSIBLE ANSWER:* This question will most likely be answered in “Halo: The Thursday War” novel coming out this Fall.

  • Will our Spartan IV armor selections have an effect on gameplay outside of campaign?

  • PLAUSIBLE ANSWER:* N/A

  • TBA

List of Statements

  • The majority of mutliplayer combat appears much more similar to Reach’s style of gameplay or current triple-AAA FPS/TPS games. Having the ability to spawn with different armor types, weapons, grenades, armor abilities, or armor mods does not even come close to the kind of multiplayer balance or feel the original trilogy championed.

  • It is not possible for Halo 4 to be accurately described as CoD, Gears, Battlefield, Crysis, or any other FPS/TPS game… “By alternating redundant magnetic streams at the rear of a Spartan’s armor, the Firepower Package overrides regulated loadout limitations, allowing users to carry two primary weapons simultaneously. For Spartans who prefer heavier or longer-ranged firepower over close-range versatility and speed, this package is typically considered imperative.”

  • Halo 4 will not be dominated by a one-gun mentality like several of its prior cousins. Instead, it will use the long awaited two-gun mentality (BR/DMR). It would be very nice if it were possible to use all items in the sandbox effectively instead of a select few, yet that’s all simply speculation.

  • Regardless of how negligible the differences might be, many items of the sandbox, Loadouts included, can be unlocked, purchased, and customized for our own personal use in standard ‘competitive’ mutliplayer.

  • “Battle Rifle Unlocked”

  • I’ve never rented a Halo game before, but knowing what little we do about multiplayer and the trend things seem to be heading…Halo 4 is shaping up to be just that. I respect the campaign and story enough to at least rent the game. I hope I’m wrong about the multiplayer.

  • TBA

Should you, the Halo community, wish to add your own items to either list, please make a response to this thread. I will do my best to update the OP with your concerns, statements, or questions. I appreciate any help the community can provide in our search for answers. Thank you for your time and have a great day! Try and stay positive. :slight_smile:

-Always Hope

EDIT - A nice write-up about the E3 multiplayer gameplay can be found here, an updated E3 News/Hub here, and a list of the current known pre-order bonuses here. Enjoy!

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> Disclaimer: I fully understand that Halo 4 multiplayer has already been announced to be cannon (Danger Room type scenarios on the Infinity). I also realize some of the following questions may be answered in future announcements. Please assist me in finding the answers.
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> 1) Why would the Spartan IVs be fighting each other in War Games in a hostile environment (crashed/boarded ship, unknown/Covenant invaders, etc…)?
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> 2) Did the UNSC conveniently forget to bring their close range weapons (SMG, Shotgun, etc…) in hopes of finding a Forerunner/Covenant replacement?
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> 3) What persuaded the Covenant to leave some of their most notable and destructive weapons behind (Plasma Rifle, Beam Rifle, etc…)?
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> 4) How did the Master Chief forget how to pick up and use two one-handed weapons at the same time?
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> 5) Where did the remaining Spartan IIs and IIIs end up going after they left Trevelyan?

  1. It’s like having a sparring partner in Boxing, only more shooty shooty.

  2. After 2552, the UNSC wanted a broader knowledge of alien technology, so the Infinity may be field testing these weapons and debrief the users afterwards.

  3. The majority of the Covenant is now disbanded, what is left is only a fraction, they may not be as good at handling resources as before.

  4. I think this one can only be answered - for game-play reasons…

  5. This isn’t known yet, Thursday War should sort that out.

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  1. They went to the UNSC Infinity to help train the IV’s.
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> I apologize for the brevity of this post, and if I am making comments that have already been made. Unfortunately, I do not have the time to do a more thorough search about my queries. Life can be a hectic beast…onto the Halo 4 questions.
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> Disclaimer: I fully understand that Halo 4 multiplayer has already been announced to be cannon (Danger Room type scenarios on the Infinity). I also realize some of the following questions may be answered in future announcements. Please assist me in finding the answers.
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> 1) Why would the Spartan IVs be fighting each other in War Games in a hostile environment (crashed/boarded ship, unknown/Covenant invaders, etc…)?
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> 2) Did the UNSC conveniently forget to bring their close range weapons (SMG, Shotgun, etc…) in hopes of finding a Forerunner/Covenant replacement?
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> 3) What persuaded the Covenant to leave some of their most notable and destructive weapons behind (Plasma Rifle, Beam Rifle, etc…)?
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> 4) How did the Master Chief forget how to pick up and use two one-handed weapons at the same time?
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> 5) Where did the remaining Spartan IIs and IIIs end up going after they left Trevelyan?
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> There are several more questions I’d like to ask, but time is of the essence. Do you have any questions or concerns about Halo 4? Feel free to add them at your leisure. I appreciate any help the community can provide in my search for answers. Thank you for your time and have a great day!
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> -Always Hope

  1. Im guessing they were training before, and then Halo 4’s campaign happened.

  2. What proof do you have that they left them behind?

  3. Remember, this is not the Covenant as they were before. It’s entirely possible they have scraped those weapons.

  4. If you remember, none of the Weapons the Cheif picked up were Dual-Weilding weapons.

  5. No idea.

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Thanks for the responses thus far. Several of them helped answer my original questions. I reconstructed the original post with those responses, more information, and a new goal. Hopefully, more users will be able to find this topic helpful.

I had to do a little digging when finding more details about Halo 4 arguments, concerns, and impressions. Ultimately, I believe I managed to convey some of the larger concerns community members have with the game. The new statement section uses paraphrases from that data with names left out. If permission is given to me to use the original remarks by the authors, I will do just that.

Keep your thoughts coming this way. We’ll all do our best to answer any questions you have. Stay positive!

-Always Hope